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Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
If you can't name the coach you want, you can't offer an opinion apparently.
- MJL


LOL, par for the course.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:13 AM ET
If you can't name the coach you want, you can't offer an opinion apparently.
- MJL



So with the Sabres going back to Ruff, maybe we can go back to Hakstol since Seattle might be moving on.


Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Even you would do a better job than Rocky or Therrien.
- Tomahawk


I think we should really push this with the Flyers. JD knows when players have the goods.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Even you would do a better job than Rocky or Therrien.
- Tomahawk


I mean he does no who has the goods, like Jay O'Brien for instance
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
I think we should really push this with the Flyers. JD knows when players have the goods.
- Flyfly


beat me to it
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Fedotov re signed. At least with that contract, no way a vet goalie is signed in the summer, which is okay by me. Let the battle for #1 to begin between Ersson, Fedotov, and Kosolov.
- Trox88

It’s a bad contract.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
It’s a bad contract.
- psuhockey


Maybe, maybe not.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
beat me to it
- corduroy

Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
It’s a bad contract.
- psuhockey


Yeah from a yearly average, but not term. Should they have walked away and signed a UFA vet? Just gone with Petersen and Kosolov as the backups?
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
Maybe, maybe not.
- MJL

The only way it can make sense is if they think they can move one of the goalies at the end of the season for a good return. It’s a big overpay for an unproven goalie.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
The only way it can make sense is if they think they can move one of the goalies at the end of the season for a good return. It’s a big overpay for an unproven goalie.
- psuhockey


It surely is an overpay in terms of AAV but it is only two years. Not sure what they have in Fed but I guess we will find out soon enough. If he ends up being solid and can split time w Ers it will be work out. I just have no idea what he will be when the season starts. It is a gamble...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
The only way it can make sense is if they think they can move one of the goalies at the end of the season for a good return. It’s a big overpay for an unproven goalie.
- psuhockey


Total they are spending 4.7 on goalies for 2 years.

Also from things I am seeing it was the cost to get him over here and he did want more term. I don't love it but I am better with it at 2 years and higher money then something long term your stuck with.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
Total they are spending 4.7 on goalies for 2 years.

Also from things I am seeing it was the cost to get him over here and he did want more term. I don't love it but I am better with it at 2 years and higher money then something long term your stuck with.

- J35Bacher


Luckily, Bryz's contract does not count against the cap.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
The PowerPlay does not seem to have any creativity. It appears that for the most part everyone stands still off puck. Watching these playoff games, the movement with and without the puck is amazing, up tempo and either someone is open on the far side with a cross seem pass or there is a bunch of traffic in front of the net. Neither of those were regular occurrences this year in Flyerland
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
Total they are spending 4.7 on goalies for 2 years.

Also from things I am seeing it was the cost to get him over here and he did want more term. I don't love it but I am better with it at 2 years and higher money then something long term your stuck with.

- J35Bacher

You forgot Petersen.

Fedotov may not be an NHL level goalie. I guess that would be good for a tank.

Makes me worry about a Konecny contract if he is willing to overpay here.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
Really? So tell us then, who should be coaching the Power play for the Flyers and what evidence can you provide that would say that person would have any more success than the several coaches before him?
- jd250


No one could do any worse than Rocky did this year.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
So with the Sabres going back to Ruff, maybe we can go back to Hakstol since Seattle might be moving on.


- J35Bacher


Oh come on! Where’s your sense of adventure?! The only replacement for Fred Shero, I mean Scotty Bowman, oh wait… so easy to confuse them… I mean John Tortorella, is Mike Babcock!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
No he won't. I think the goalie of the future is in Lehigh. Kosolov will play in Lehigh and then eventually mature to the big team. Ersson and Fedotov are place holders in my eyes.
- J35Bacher

there is nothing that tells me the flyers have the goalie of the future in house. Their draft record and development in that area lacks.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
Really? So tell us then, who should be coaching the Power play for the Flyers and what evidence can you provide that would say that person would have any more success than the several coaches before him?
- jd250

cement head lappy
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Apr 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
Total they are spending 4.7 on goalies for 2 years.

Also from things I am seeing it was the cost to get him over here and he did want more term. I don't love it but I am better with it at 2 years and higher money then something long term your stuck with.

- J35Bacher


I don't mind it at all, really. If Fedotov acclimates to the NHL game and really grows into being dependable, it's relatively cheap and he has a chance to take a step up in money in 2 years. If not, he's done in 2 years and hasn't cost them much. There's always a possibility that he can grow and then be an asset to trade in a "competent goalie" starved league.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
The only way it can make sense is if they think they can move one of the goalies at the end of the season for a good return. It’s a big overpay for an unproven goalie.
- psuhockey


What difference does it make? Fedotov can become a great goalie or be a total dud. The cap shouldn’t matter too much the next two years anyway. And I’d rather have him than some other NHL retread. It’ll be fun to root for him next couple seasons. Plus we want the Russians to be happy and say good things to Michkov about the Flyers so he doesn’t pull a Quitter on them. 😂
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
The PowerPlay does not seem to have any creativity. It appears that for the most part everyone stands still off puck. Watching these playoff games, the movement with and without the puck is amazing, up tempo and either someone is open on the far side with a cross seem pass or there is a bunch of traffic in front of the net. Neither of those were regular occurrences this year in Flyerland
- mikeyo27


To be fair there's no creativity in the way this team is coached in any facet. The theme seems to be that all problems will be solved if you simply give 110%, and if that doesn't work try 120%.

There needs to be a balance and there is none.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:18 PM ET
The only w and ay it can make sense is if they think they can move one of the goalies at the end of the season for a good return. It’s a big overpay for an unproven goalie.
- psuhockey


It wouldn't make sense if Fedetov plays well and helps solidify the position. Buys time for Ersson and other young goalies to develop?
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Apr 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
Total they are spending 4.7 on goalies for 2 years.

Also from things I am seeing it was the cost to get him over here and he did want more term. I don't love it but I am better with it at 2 years and higher money then something long term your stuck with.

- J35Bacher


Plus Peterson's $5m, so $9.7 per, probable savings of $1.1 for sending him down, $8.6 spent on the goalie position for NHL contracts
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Apr 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
Joey Mullen

Roughly the same age as torts

Was successful in the past - past performance can be used to factor into how someone would perform in the job

- corduroy


Believe he has retired.
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