No, that is not what was posted. What was posted was that Michel Therrien and Rocky Thompson are not qualified to design and run an NHL PP. That is simply not true!
- jd250

It's exactly what you posted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=187489&page=1

"Really? So tell us then, who should be coaching the Power play for the Flyers and what evidence can you provide that would say that person would have any more success than the several coaches before him?"

Joey Mullen

Roughly the same age as torts

Was successful in the past - past performance can be used to factor into how someone would perform in the job
- corduroy

LOL Joe Mullen isn't even coaching in the NHL anymore, hasn't for the past several years. He is not a viable option.

There are few things wrong in your post. The only thing that Gauthier wanted to control was when he was signed to a contract. The Flyers were colossally stupid not to do that. Once that was done and Gauthier played some games down the stretch to finish the 22/23 season, the Flyers would have complete control on when and where he plays. There is no evidence whatsoever that I'm aware of from his playing time in college that support that Gauthier is not a team player.
- MJL

Since when are you the authority on everything? I was referring to his asinine comments against his opponent in the finals. Giving opponents bulletin board material needlessly because of being cocky is selfish to your teammates and coaches. Also, 99.9% of the kids who get drafted are happy to do so. They always talk positively about organizations, because they are respectful. He has not demonstrated this. If there's a business disagreement, for Pete's sake, work it out!
Cancel culture on display here.

You guys on this web site have such disdain for Flyers' management, the coaching staff. Why do you follow this team? Pick a different team, one that does EVERYTHING you like and you'll be happy. If you guys were all so right, you'd be running a team yourself. Instead, it's all bitter 20/20 hindsight. Bunch of broken records.

It's exactly what you posted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=187489&page=1

"Really? So tell us then, who should be coaching the Power play for the Flyers and what evidence can you provide that would say that person would have any more success than the several coaches before him?"
- MJL

This was my response idiot. The original post stated neither coach was qualified and that is just stupid. In fact. I'm surprised you didn't post it.

No, I have posted already that I think the Flyers need another voice. However that is very different than stating coaches like Rocky Thompson or Michel Therrien don't know what they are talking about. Both coaches know more about hockey in their pinky finger than you and I will ever know.
- jd250

The standard that you're applying here is asinine. As if that is the benchmark rather than assessing how effective they were in their jobs. Neither Thompson or Therrien were effective in their positions with the Flyers. That Thompson is not going to be relieved of his duties, is incompetence by the Flyers.

Since when are you the authority on everything? I was referring to his asinine comments against his opponent in the finals. Giving opponents bulletin board material needlessly because of being cocky is selfish to your teammates and coaches. Also, 99.9% of the kids who get drafted are happy to do so. They always talk positively about organizations, because they are respectful. He has not demonstrated this. If there's a business disagreement, for Pete's sake, work it out!
Cancel culture on display here.

You guys on this web site have such disdain for Flyers' management, the coaching staff. Why do you follow this team? Pick a different team, one that does EVERYTHING you like and you'll be happy. If you guys were all so right, you'd be running a team yourself. Instead, it's all bitter 20/20 hindsight. Bunch of broken records.
- BluehorseShoe64

9-20-2007

IF they offered him a contract, what was the problem then?
- BluehorseShoe64

My most accounts, he got his balls all twisted up because the Flyers wouldn't sign him early and let him burn a year off his deal by playing a few games at the end of the season.

Since when are you the authority on everything? I was referring to his asinine comments against his opponent in the finals. Giving opponents bulletin board material needlessly because of being cocky is selfish to your teammates and coaches. Also, 99.9% of the kids who get drafted are happy to do so. They always talk positively about organizations, because they are respectful. He has not demonstrated this. If there's a business disagreement, for Pete's sake, work it out!
Cancel culture on display here.


- BluehorseShoe64

I'm certainly not the authority over everything but I certainly know more than you do about this and I certainly have the common sense to know that a young player should not be labeled or definitively judged by one statement made. You look at the player as a whole and the entirety of his behavior. There is no information that I have seen that make Gauthier out to be difficult to deal with as a teammate or a player. As you are asininely attempting to allude to based on one comment made.

You guys on this web site have such disdain for Flyers' management, the coaching staff. Why do you follow this team? Pick a different team, one that does EVERYTHING you like and you'll be happy. If you guys were all so right, you'd be running a team yourself. Instead, it's all bitter 20/20 hindsight. Bunch of broken records.
- BluehorseShoe64

Gee, I wonder why? LOL. It is also asinine to suggest that if someone feels that criticism is warranted and it's expressed. That means that they don't have a right to be a fan of that team and they should pick a different team. That's just unintelligent.

This was my response idiot. The original post stated neither coach was qualified and that is just stupid. In fact. I'm surprised you didn't post it.
- jd250

No poop Sherlock. LOL. My reply was sarcasm towards your dumb ass response. Neither coach was effective at their job.

No poop Sherlock. LOL. My reply was sarcasm towards your dumb ass response. Neither coach was effective at their job.
- MJL

were you effective in your marriage?

The standard that you're applying here is asinine. As if that is the benchmark rather than assessing how effective they were in their jobs. Neither Thompson or Therrien were effective in their positions with the Flyers. That Thompson is not going to be relieved of his duties, is incompetence by the Flyers.
- MJL

So you agree with me. I have posted a number of times that I like Rocky but he has not got the job done, and thus he should be replaced. The Flyers need a new voice. The fact that Torts didn't lead with the Power play as the number 1 reason the Flyers were not a playoff team this year is either pure denial or incompetence. I was disappointed all he said is they are going to talk about it. Talk about it? What were they doing all season long, their taxes?

were you effective in your marriage?
- hello it's me 2050

Do you have to get personal? Can't we just stick to hockey?

I don’t love the $3.25 M for Fodotov but Charlie OConnor had a good point- if we didn’t see him play those three games this season, would we be upset about a 2 year deal worth 3.25 to see if he can work here? The answer would, for many, be no. Then you have to ask yourself, is it fair to judge him on those 3 games? I guess I’d say no because of the varied and wild circumstances but what do others think?
- coffee junkie

The Flyers wouldn't have had to sign him, he was already under contract. It had been tolled. His cap hit for next year would have been $925k. Just saying it's not an either or situation.

3 games cost the Flyers 2.4 mill in cap and real money next year but let Charlie pretend that's not the case because he wouldn't want to embarrass the Flyers cap management.

Desperation move by management to make the playoffs (no need to burn those 3 games otherwise) that didn't pan out and will cost them next year. Don't look behind the curtain.

So you agree with me. I have posted a number of times that I like Rocky but he has not got the job done, and thus he should be replaced. The Flyers need a new voice. The fact that Torts didn't lead with the Power play as the number 1 reason the Flyers were not a playoff team this year is either pure denial or incompetence. I was disappointed all he said is they are going to talk about it. Talk about it? What were they doing all season long, their taxes?
- jd250

So why are you stupidly arguing that Thompson and Therrien know more than other know when other are suggesting that their performance suggests that they were and are unqualified?

The Flyers wouldn't have had to sign him, he was already under contract. It had been tolled. His cap hit for next year would have been $925k. Just saying it's not an either or situation.

3 games cost the Flyers 2.4 mill in cap and real money next year but let Charlie pretend that's not the case because he wouldn't want to embarrass the Flyers cap management.

Desperation move by management to make the playoffs (no need to burn those 3 games otherwise) that didn't pan out and will cost them next year. Don't look behind the curtain.
- Flyers_01

You make a very good point but I think part of the selling point to get Fedetov to come over and also be willing to re-sign with the Flyers was the Flyers burning off that one year of 925K by playing him those few games.

Do you have to get personal? Can't we just stick to hockey?
- jd250

You just replied to me with "that was my response you idiot"!

So why are you stupidly arguing that Thompson and Therrien know more than other know when other are suggesting that their performance suggests that they were and are unqualified?
- MJL

Because they both know how to run a power play, but for whatever reason they both have failed to get this group of players to execute consistently. Maybe we need to look harder at the players? They are the only common denominator.


And speaking of Torts, I couldn't believe he stated they didn't practice 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 enough? Again, what the hell are they doing all season in practice? And again either due to incompetence or denial, didn't mention his approach to 3 on 3 was greatly flawed and needed to be revamped. Unfortunately the one time he had Frost and Drysdale out there, they looked clueless and cost them the game.

Do you have to get personal? Can't we just stick to hockey?
- jd250

look at you defending the guy who beats you down on a daily basis

You just replied to me with "that was my response you idiot"!

- MJL

That not personal .. that's a sign of affection.

look at you defending the guy who beats you down on a daily basis
- hello it's me 2050

I'm not defending him at all ... but when you go after anyone's wife, or family on a simple forum about the Flyers, that's over the line IMO. You can call him an idiot all you want .. that is always fun. He likes that.

The Flyers wouldn't have had to sign him, he was already under contract. It had been tolled. His cap hit for next year would have been $925k. Just saying it's not an either or situation.

3 games cost the Flyers 2.4 mill in cap and real money next year but let Charlie pretend that's not the case because he wouldn't want to embarrass the Flyers cap management.

Desperation move by management to make the playoffs (no need to burn those 3 games otherwise) that didn't pan out and will cost them next year. Don't look behind the curtain.
- Flyers_01

he was an UFA no matter if he played or not I believe; couldn't be tolled. either way maybe just a good will gesture for future business in Russia

I'm not defending him at all ... but when you go after anyone's wife, or family on a simple forum about the Flyers, that's over the line IMO. You can call him an idiot all you want .. that is always fun. He likes that.
- jd250

stfu

Because they both know how to run a power play, but for whatever reason they both have failed to get this group of players to execute consistently. Maybe we need to look harder at the players? They are the only common denominator.


- jd250

I would say no, they don't know how. Especially in the case of Thompson. There is no indication or proof that he does.

And speaking of Torts, I couldn't believe he stated they didn't practice 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 enough? Again, what the hell are they doing all season in practice? And again either due to incompetence or denial, didn't mention his approach to 3 on 3 was greatly flawed and needed to be revamped. Unfortunately the one time he had Frost and Drysdale out there, they looked clueless and cost them the game.
- jd250

I've told you many times that Tortorella is a defensive coach and that the defensive side of hockey is all that he knows. He is a mediocre coach at best.

That not personal .. that's a sign of affection.
- jd250

Bookmarked for the future.

IF they offered him a contract, what was the problem then?
- BluehorseShoe64

This has been gone over and over. In March it would have burnt a year off the ELC if he played even 1 game. Briere didn't want cap bonus overtures, so he said no.

Cost Gauthier a year.