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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:03 PM ET
See below:
This is what I wrote. Nice try though


Butch explained that it's because JT is considered the best centerman at draws...
- JohnScammo


It's when he loses the draws that that becomes a liability. In this case there was only 3 seconds so basically it's the draw and done.
I would have 2 guys like Kuli and Fraz out there with him if you want JT taking the draw late.
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My first reaction was also "wtf are they doing?" until I looked at the stats and realized that he's been head-and-shoulders above every other centerman. He's improved a lot in that area. He was usually a sub-50% guy on the draw.
- eichiefs9


Chief I don't mind JT taking the draw but put another center man like Franz out there and another defensive reliable forward out there like kuli.
If he wins the draw which is 55% to the good then usually we are ok. It's when he loses the draw and he's out there with his regular line mates that it becomes a defensive liability which we have seen numerous times this season bite us in the ass. Just makes sense but I guess not to Crappy. Almost every team will put 2 Center iceman out there at the end of a game just incase one is thrown out of the circle. This guy just does things that go against hockey 101.

- nyisles7


Nice try? I'm not trying to do anything
I'm sorry I don't remember seeing them give a lot of goals this year at the end of games or periods. I remember giving up a lot of goals last year at the end of periods etc etc but not this year
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:04 PM ET
That's fine and I respect your opinion but there is a reason teams have their best faceoff guys out there for the important draws late in periods and games. Faceoffs late games are very important
- Vukota


True but if he loses that face off the Islanders cant seem to get out of the zone for 2 minutes cause there best defensive players are sitting and watching. Let me just say if TAvares was out there just for the face off and then got off the ice I am good with that but that is all he should be doing in the last two minutes
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:06 PM ET
Nice try? I'm not trying to do anything
I'm sorry I don't remember seeing them give a lot of goals this year at the end of games or periods. I remember giving up a lot of goals last year at the end of periods etc etc but not this year

- Vukota


Apology accepted.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:06 PM ET
I haven't looked at the face off % for the team but looking at it from what ive seen from JT especially this season he's the last person id want out there with a couple minutes left down by a goal. Just my opinion. Now with three seconds left I get it if he leads the team in face off % by a wide margin couple minutes a minute no.
- Cptmjl



Fair enough. I never said anything about wanting JT out there late in games its amazing how shat gets twisted in here I just said teams usually have their best face off guys out there during important parts of the game and I could understand why JT is out there. Would I love to see him take the faceoff and skate to the bench? Absolutely
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:07 PM ET
Let's just get 2pts tomorrow in Winnipeg and keep this road trip rolling
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:07 PM ET
Apology accepted.
- nyisles7



No shot. When I call you a douche for no reason then I will apologize
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:08 PM ET
True but if he loses that face off the Islanders cant seem to get out of the zone for 2 minutes cause there best defensive players are sitting and watching. Let me just say if TAvares was out there just for the face off and then got off the ice I am good with that but that is all he should be doing in the last two minutes
- kasperrko



Like I said its kind of a catch 22 while you don't really want him out there sometimes he needs to be out there
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:08 PM ET
Let's just get 2pts tomorrow in Winnipeg and keep this road trip rolling
- Isles_since_6


Word
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 2 @ 12:09 PM ET
Since I'm a neutral observer here, and really only hate chiefs and captain here is my ruling.

nyisles7 was misunderstood and was making a general comment about JT and his line mates not being defensively responsible. Not necessarily at the end of a game.

nyisles7 was wrong for calling vukota a douche.


Now go to your separate corners pull your tampons out of your baby cannons, give em a good cleaning and move on.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:09 PM ET
I certainly don't disagree that Tavares' line shouldn't be out there in a defensive situation.

That said, sometimes (sometimes) the guys who can play defense need a rest and you have to put someone out there. As long as Capuano isn't going to make a habit out of it then I'm fine with the fact that sometimes you just need to give players a rest and someone needs to be on the rink.

- eichiefs9


Of course, totally agree, this is just common sense.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:10 PM ET
Let's just get 2pts tomorrow in Winnipeg and keep this road trip rolling
- Isles_since_6


Right on this is a must win before playing the Rangers
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
Let's just get 2pts tomorrow in Winnipeg and keep this road trip rolling
- Isles_since_6

Good news, for most of us, is that game-times are finally normalizing. No more stupid West coast games.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:13 PM ET
Since I'm a neutral observer here, and really only hate chiefs and captain here is my ruling.

nyisles7 was misunderstood and was making a general comment about JT and his line mates not being defensively responsible. Not necessarily at the end of a game.

nyisles7 was wrong for calling vukota a douche.


Now go to your separate corners pull your tampons out of your baby cannons, give em a good cleaning and move on.

- mdw7413



Don't u have a little kid to fondle....
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:13 PM ET
Right on this is a must win before playing the Rangers
- kasperrko


Even though the Jets have been bad this year this is going to be a tough game. They can't play like they have the last couple of games. The one thing about this team is they usually show up against the good teams and while the jets aren't very good this year they still bring a physical game and with the crowd they have I think they will come out much harder tomorrow night
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:14 PM ET
Let's just get 2pts tomorrow in Winnipeg and keep this road trip rolling
- Isles_since_6



U should be sleeping still from that snooze fest...
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:15 PM ET
Good news, for most of us, is that game-times are finally normalizing. No more stupid West coast games.
- eichiefs9


I love the west coast games.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:16 PM ET
U should be sleeping still from that snooze fest...
- Ur Not Me


Maybe a gif of the woman from last night's game would help things?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:16 PM ET
Good news, for most of us, is that game-times are finally normalizing. No more stupid West coast games.
- eichiefs9


Curse you West coast games.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:17 PM ET
No shot. When I call you a douche for no reason then I will apologize
- Vukota


If you can honestly say that you really truly just weren't asking that question just to start a sh!t storm against me for saying that. Then I apologies for calling you a douche.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:17 PM ET
Maybe a gif of the woman from last night's game would help things?
- ses111



Bruh u need to get out more or start paying for some....
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:18 PM ET
Bruh u need to get out more or start paying for some....
- Ur Not Me


I thought we all are on HB for the gif's?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:18 PM ET
I love the west coast games.
- Vukota

You're a monster
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:18 PM ET
Even though the Jets have been bad this year this is going to be a tough game. They can't play like they have the last couple of games. The one thing about this team is they usually show up against the good teams and while the jets aren't very good this year they still bring a physical game and with the crowd they have I think they will come out much harder tomorrow night
- Vukota


Exactly they need to find ways to get up for these games. These are just as important as the other teams. They need to come out flying and take advantage
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:18 PM ET
If you can honestly say that you really truly just weren't asking that question just to start a sh!t storm against me for saying that. Then I apologies for calling you a douche.
- nyisles7



No he wasn't actually, he just thinks he's smarter than the rest...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
Fair enough. I never said anything about wanting JT out there late in games its amazing how shat gets twisted in here I just said teams usually have their best face off guys out there during important parts of the game and I could understand why JT is out there. Would I love to see him take the faceoff and skate to the bench? Absolutely
- Vukota

Yeah I know. Communicating through a keyboard is tough. So much shat gets lost in translation it becomes unbelievably frustrating at times.
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