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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 2 @ 7:28 PM ET
It's just the first roster spots. I didn't expect Giroux to make it on there initially, even if he should over someone like Carter or even, hot take, Stamkos. Hockey Canada is all politics. All of those 4 should make it on the final roster, though it would surprise me not one single bit to leave Giroux off. And it will be a crock of poop per usual.

Having said all this, there is NO way PK Subban is not one of the 4 best d men on Canada. Hell, he might be one of the 4 best in the world. Again, politics.

- Mononoke


Even hotter take: How does John Tavares make the Olympics and World Cup over Giroux?

Leaving Giroux off of Team Canada has gone from petty snub (Chris Kunitz? Really?) to just plain obnoxious. Get that man some US Citizenship papers and let's get him in Red, White, and Blue.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 7:30 PM ET
No Giroux for Team Canada (yet)
- BulliesPhan87


That bald POS Getzlaf better not be on the team.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 2 @ 7:34 PM ET
Even hotter take: How does John Tavares make the Olympics and World Cup over Giroux?

Leaving Giroux off of Team Canada has gone from petty snub (Chris Kunitz? Really?) to just plain obnoxious. Get that man some US Citizenship papers and let's get him in Red, White, and Blue.

- johndewar

the NHL will continually boycott the Flyers
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 7:51 PM ET
Wait a second. Brooks Laich has the exact same contract situation as RJ Umberger, and he's got 1 goal in 61 games this year. Why were the Caps able to trade him while the Flyers didn't unload Umberger. Looking forward to the answers.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Mar 2 @ 7:55 PM ET
Forget G, how does Ghost one of the most exciting players in all of the NHL not make it on the U23 team?

edit: Morgan Rielley and Ryan Murray? Really?

and something called Conner Hellebuyck was named as well (Goalie)
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 7:56 PM ET
Even hotter take: How does John Tavares make the Olympics and World Cup over Giroux?

Leaving Giroux off of Team Canada has gone from petty snub (Chris Kunitz? Really?) to just plain obnoxious. Get that man some US Citizenship papers and let's get him in Red, White, and Blue.

- johndewar


Claude Giroux is better than both Jeff Carter and Chris Kunitz. Also while I understand that John Tavares, Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin are both incredible players right now, Giroux has been a stud performer for a lot longer.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:01 PM ET
Claude Giroux is better than both Jeff Carter and Chris Kunitz. Also while I understand that John Tavares, Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin are both incredible players right now, Giroux has been a stud performer for a lot longer.
- SuperSchennBros


Honestly, if anyone was watching the WC in Prague last year AT ALL..they would have seen just how good G was. Furthermore, he was easily Canada's best player in the gold medal game vs Russia...better than Crosby. But no! he can't be on the world cup team.. WTF??
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:02 PM ET
Wait a second. Brooks Laich has the exact same contract situation as RJ Umberger, and he's got 1 goal in 61 games this year. Why were the Caps able to trade him while the Flyers didn't unload Umberger. Looking forward to the answers.
- PLindbergh31

Hextall asleep at the wheel

AGAIN
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:05 PM ET
Forget G, how does Ghost one of the most exciting players in all of the NHL not make it on the U23 team?

edit: Morgan Rielley and Ryan Murray? Really?

and something called Conner Hellebuyck was named as well (Goalie)

- Yosimar89



really hoping Ghost is named when the name the rest of the team. as far as Hellebuyck, guess you haven't see many Winnipeg games.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:06 PM ET
Hextall asleep at the wheel

AGAIN

- Crimsoninja


Everyone said Umberger had a contract that couldn't be moved. I just gave an example of a player of the same age, contract and production that was traded.

That's all ya got? Weak sauce.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:07 PM ET
Wait a second. Brooks Laich has the exact same contract situation as RJ Umberger, and he's got 1 goal in 61 games this year. Why were the Caps able to trade him while the Flyers didn't unload Umberger. Looking forward to the answers.
- PLindbergh31


We need his structured play. Apparently, this roster needs the structure of not scoring, and it's critical to our success..
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:08 PM ET
Everyone said Umberger had a contract that couldn't be moved. I just gave an example of a player of the same age, contract and production that was traded.

That's all ya got? Weak sauce.

- PLindbergh31


( frank)Umberger
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:09 PM ET
Wait a second. Brooks Laich has the exact same contract situation as RJ Umberger, and he's got 1 goal in 61 games this year. Why were the Caps able to trade him while the Flyers didn't unload Umberger. Looking forward to the answers.
- PLindbergh31



what would you have given Toronto to dump the Umberger contract? Toronto got a dman prospect and a second rounder. sorry but I'm not giving that up in order to have someone take Umberger. rather just ride the contract out or buy it out this summer.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:11 PM ET
Honestly, if anyone was watching the WC in Prague last year AT ALL..they would have seen just how good G was. Furthermore, he was easily Canada's best player in the gold medal game vs Russia...better than Crosby. But no! he can't be on the world cup team.. WTF??
- Hextall271

Meh. Let him take it out on other NHL teams.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:12 PM ET
what would you have given Toronto to dump the Umberger contract? Toronto got a dman prospect and a second rounder. sorry but I'm not giving that up in order to have someone take Umberger. rather just ride the contract out or buy it out this summer.
- nastyflyergirl


My apologies then. I thought it was Laich for Winnik. I wouldn't have given up a prospect and a second rounder to unload Umberger. My bad.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
Meh. Let him take it out on other NHL teams.
- hereticpride


Sure, but it still pisses me off. He's one of the best players in my country and I want him representing us/getting a chance to win Gold medals etc along with the forthcoming stanley cup in a couple years.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Mar 2 @ 8:14 PM ET
really hoping Ghost is named when the name the rest of the team. as far as Hellebuyck, guess you haven't see many Winnipeg games.
- nastyflyergirl

For some reason his team was still listed as Manitoba Moose... but yeah i stay away from the west (hilarious considering i live in Vegas) for the most part unless the Flyers are playing against them.

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:17 PM ET
My apologies then. I thought it was Laich for Winnik. I wouldn't have given up a prospect and a second rounder to unload Umberger. My bad.
- PLindbergh31



Washington also got a later pick, like maybe a 6th rounder? I'd have to look. I think Umberger could be moved if they really wanted to. now AMAC is next to impossible. well, unless the Flyers ate the max of the contract.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:18 PM ET
My apologies then. I thought it was Laich for Winnik. I wouldn't have given up a prospect and a second rounder to unload Umberger. My bad.
- PLindbergh31

We (Ron and I) accept your apology.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:21 PM ET
For some reason his team was still listed as Manitoba Moose... but yeah i stay away from the west (hilarious considering i live in Vegas) for the most part unless the Flyers are playing against them.


- Yosimar89



I believe he was sent down when Pavelec came back from injury but the kid played very well when up so I am sure that is why he was selected
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:36 PM ET
I believe he was sent down when Pavelec came back from injury but the kid played very well when up so I am sure that is why he was selected
- nastyflyergirl


He did play well. This doesn't explain why G and Ghost aren't on their repective teams however.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:37 PM ET
Everyone said Umberger had a contract that couldn't be moved. I just gave an example of a player of the same age, contract and production that was traded.

That's all ya got? Weak sauce.

- PLindbergh31

hexy got tap danced and egg on his face from other gms
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:40 PM ET
hexy got tap danced and egg on his face from other gms
- 2Real


Must've been one raucous tap dance recital
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:59 PM ET
Everyone said Umberger had a contract that couldn't be moved. I just gave an example of a player of the same age, contract and production that was traded.

That's all ya got? Weak sauce.

- PLindbergh31


Umberger has an NMC
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 9:02 PM ET
what would you have given Toronto to dump the Umberger contract? Toronto got a dman prospect and a second rounder. sorry but I'm not giving that up in order to have someone take Umberger. rather just ride the contract out or buy it out this summer.
- nastyflyergirl


So Toronto got another Jake Gardiner to ruin, eh?
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