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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
Called Gostisbehere Ghost Bear
- Streit2ThePoint




(all the cool kids are doin' it!)
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Mar 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
No. He's never really been into school. I'm not throwing that kind of money away unless he's serious about it.
- mayorofangrytown


Smart man.

IMO, no one should go to university unless they have a career they're set on. Then go to school to study what's appropriate to get you into that career.

Depending on cost, starting at community college may not be a bad idea either.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
They have Ekblad at #3...so all credibility is lost
- YuenglingJagr

drouin down to 15
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Mar 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
Always liked Youngblood. It was a quintessential '80's flick. It had Swayze. A training montage. Synthesizer music. The whole bit.

The hockey stuff was fun.....Carl Racki was Brian Burke's prototype for truculence.

Back when he was on the Flyers, Peter Zezel was in that flick as one of the players on the Mustangs.

- johndewar

Keanu Reeves was a goalie I believe.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 2 @ 2:26 PM ET
Never saw Youngblood, probs never will.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 2 @ 2:26 PM ET
Smart man.

IMO, no one should go to university unless they have a career they're set on. Then go to school to study what's appropriate to get you into that career.

Depending on cost, starting at community college may not be a bad idea either.

- JFlyers00


I dont necessarily agree with that. I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree. It wasnt until I started doing actual engineering that I realized I hated being an engineer. At least I still have an engineering degree though
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
I dont necessarily agree with that. I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree. It wasnt until I started doing actual engineering that I realized I hated being an engineer. At least I still have an engineering degree though
- YuenglingJagr


What didn't you like about it?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 2 @ 2:31 PM ET
How did uncle Lou manage to move 11 players and a 5th off of a crappy Leafs team and load up on expiring contracts and picks?
- mayorofangrytown

A 5th of what? Rum? Vodka?
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Mar 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
I dont necessarily agree with that. I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree. It wasnt until I started doing actual engineering that I realized I hated being an engineer. At least I still have an engineering degree though
- YuenglingJagr


Yeah but to go into school undecided to try and figure out what you want to do is a terrible move, unless you're doing community college. College is way to expensive to try it out for a year and try and find something you like. You have a degree that you can always utilize, no matter whether you like engineering or not. My English degree on the other hand, not the biggest in demand degree. College has become too much of a business where doing something you love and enjoy, unless it's math, science or medicine, is really screwing kids over. Shoulda woulda coulda I guess.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
Yeah but to go into school undecided to try and figure out what you want to do is a terrible move, unless you're doing community college. College is way to expensive to try it out for a year and try and find something you like. You have a degree that you can always utilize, no matter whether you like engineering or not. My English degree on the other hand, not the biggest in demand degree. College has become too much of a business where doing something you love and enjoy, unless it's math, science or medicine, is really screwing kids over. Shoulda woulda coulda I guess.
- Tomfan365


Although I've got 15+ years to go, my stance is that I will help my girl out with college if she can tell me what she wants to do and what she thinks she'd like to do with it afterwards. If she wants to get a major in history...there's always student loans. If she wants a B.S. in physics/chemistry/bio/engineering, I'll help as best as I can.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 2 @ 2:37 PM ET
What didn't you like about it?
- jmatchett383


At least in terms of engineering design, everything is becoming so advanced and specialized that it takes more of the fun out of it. I understand and appreciate the principles and thought processes of engineering, but I really didnt care to spend an entire week plugging numbers into a computer program to make a picture look the way I wanted.

Plus I think working as an engineer you just end up spending all sorts of time solving problems so someone else makes money. Any engineering I do in the future will be for self employment. Some life experiences have made me feel this way as well. Everything is about money now and if you cant understand that and account for it you are toast. I worked with a lot of people who cared only about the science of it all and I want no part of that
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 2 @ 2:43 PM ET
Although I've got 15+ years to go, my stance is that I will help my girl out with college if she can tell me what she wants to do and what she thinks she'd like to do with it afterwards. If she wants to get a major in history...there's always student loans. If she wants a B.S. in physics/chemistry/bio/engineering, I'll help as best as I can.
- jmatchett383


The problem is that most students don't realize the implications of it all until after the fact. I actually applied to school as an architect, then did a summer program at Drexel only to realize, wow thats a lot of work for probably not that much money (unless a 5 year degree somehow turns me into Frank Lloyd Wright) and then I switched my application to engineering. Maybe I lucked out by generally being good at numbers and engineering throughout my life, but there was a part of me that knew going to school was about getting a good job

I definitely wouldnt have changed going to school for engineering, part of me wishes I went to med school though. My sisters and wife are all in the medical field and it actually really interests me. oh well, they can keep me alive and ill fix all their poop
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Mar 2 @ 2:43 PM ET
I dont necessarily agree with that. I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree. It wasnt until I started doing actual engineering that I realized I hated being an engineer. At least I still have an engineering degree though
- YuenglingJagr


I'm a little confused. Aren't you proving my point here?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 2 @ 2:47 PM ET
At least in terms of engineering design, everything is becoming so advanced and specialized that it takes more of the fun out of it. I understand and appreciate the principles and thought processes of engineering, but I really didnt care to spend an entire week plugging numbers into a computer program to make a picture look the way I wanted.

Plus I think working as an engineer you just end up spending all sorts of time solving problems so someone else makes money. Any engineering I do in the future will be for self employment. Some life experiences have made me feel this way as well. Everything is about money now and if you cant understand that and account for it you are toast. I worked with a lot of people who cared only about the science of it all and I want no part of that

- YuenglingJagr


Ah, see, I work in the R&D firm of a business as the only ME in the group. So, any fixturing/plumbing/layout/etc. is all done by me. It was cool to walk into a refinery and look at a $100K analyzer and say to myself, "I made that."

It's why I wanted to get into engineering: to make stuff that people will be happy to use and glad to own. Maybe sounds selfish, but it's what I always wanted to do.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
I'm a little confused. Aren't you proving my point here?
- JFlyers00


I dont know...maybe...I don't think it is as simple as saying dont go to school unless you have a career in mind...because A) lots of my friends started in engineering and moved onto something else and B) had I decided I wanted to be an actor or a psychologist id most likely be putting in an application at the Chipotle they are opening up down the road
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Ah, see, I work in the R&D firm of a business as the only ME in the group. So, any fixturing/plumbing/layout/etc. is all done by me. It was cool to walk into a refinery and look at a $100K analyzer and say to myself, "I made that."

It's why I wanted to get into engineering: to make stuff that people will be happy to use and glad to own. Maybe sounds selfish, but it's what I always wanted to do.

- jmatchett383


Fair enough....I used to do be in a similar position in a very technical part of the oil and gas industry. It was a great feeling to create something of my own or solve complex problems but the time it took to get to that point was usually very boring. I found the management, training, and sales/financial part of the job a lot more interesting

For me it all comes down to how advanced the engineering gets...it gets to a certain point where I am like...that is cool, but I dont care to do that myself. For example, I wanted to design cars when I graduated (as the auto industry tanked) I am happy it worked out that way because I dont want to live in Michigan or Ohio and I dont want to go through more schooling just to be the guy that gets to design the cup holders on the new honda pilot

/mechanicalengineeringbuzz
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
I majored in Corsi.

I now am on this forum. Mom told me to major in Eye Test. I did not listen.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
I majored in Corsi.

I now am on this forum. Mom told me to major in Eye Test. I did not listen.

- Mononoke


the eye test industry is dying...smart move
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
Keanu Reeves was a goalie I believe.
- Cable2k


That guy plays goal for real... such a cool dude.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
Although I've got 15+ years to go, my stance is that I will help my girl out with college if she can tell me what she wants to do and what she thinks she'd like to do with it afterwards. If she wants to get a major in history...there's always student loans. If she wants a B.S. in physics/chemistry/bio/engineering, I'll help as best as I can.
- jmatchett383

I'd be happy to help him get through college. When he was born, that was certainly my plan for him as one of two college grads in my family. He's just never shown any lasting interest in anything but ice hockey, video games and girls. He only applied himself for one marking period in his entire time in Jr and Sr High. Got As and Bs and then after he proved he could do it went right back to Cs and Ds that bordered on Fs. Just enough to get by.

I've been waiting his whole life for something to catch a hold of him and pull him in that he could make a living at.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
Fair enough....I used to do be in a similar position in a very technical part of the oil and gas industry. It was a great feeling to create something of my own or solve complex problems but the time it took to get to that point was usually very boring. I found the management, training, and sales/financial part of the job a lot more interesting

For me it all comes down to how advanced the engineering gets...it gets to a certain point where I am like...that is cool, but I dont care to do that myself. For example, I wanted to design cars when I graduated (as the auto industry tanked) I am happy it worked out that way because I dont want to live in Michigan or Ohio and I dont want to go through more schooling just to be the guy that gets to design the cup holders on the new honda pilot

/mechanicalengineeringbuzz

- YuenglingJagr


I work in a very specialized part of the oil/gas industry. It's basically just photometric analyzers (read light at 0% concentration, read light at X% concentration, back-calculate for X based on known spectra). However, how you get the sample there and make sure the refinery doesn't explode because your analyzer malfunctions is the fun part. As far as plugging in numbers for 4 days straight, we have a physicist for that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'd be happy to help him get through college. When he was born, that was certainly my plan for him as one of two college grads in my family. He's just never shown any lasting interest in anything but ice hockey, video games and girls. He only applied himself for one marking period in his entire time in Jr and Sr High. Got As and Bs and then after he proved he could do it went right back to Cs and Ds that bordered on Fs. Just enough to get by.

I've been waiting his whole life for something to catch a hold of him and pull him in that he could make a living at.

- mayorofangrytown


Is he good enough to play low tier pro ice hockey? Could he physically? I hear some of those leagues are really goon leagues.

Also, if he likes working with his hands, a trade school would be better and much cheaper.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
Great Blog Bill, thank you.

Numbers and eye-test not withstanding. I'm of the opinion, from watching on tv and in person, that Mason will still be the guy to take the Flyers into and through the Playoffs if they have any chance of that.

In the end Mason is the better goaltender. He's been a 1A in the league, while Neuvirth has never been more than a 1B (otherwise how could the Flyers have signed him for a back-up salary). For now, though, it makes sense that Hakstol would ride the hot hand.

What do you think?

Thanks.

- ritns028


Not Bill, but I agree with your assessment.

Mason has had 3+ years of good to outstanding performance as a Flyer. He's arguably been their most reliable goalie since the first Hextall stint. He's consistently given the Flyers a chance to win and stolen games for them.

That's no knock on Neuvirth, either. He's a very talented goalie and he's been the better goalie this season, thus far. But Mason has the track record and it's not as if Neuvirth has been head and shoulders over him this season.

I think we have a good tandem in Philly, and I like both guys. They have been a strong point this year, and Mason has been one since he took over.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 2 @ 3:17 PM ET
That guy plays goal for real... such a cool dude.
- Tomahawk


I think Keanu tried to rock a French Canadian accent in Youngblood, as well. It was less than good.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 2 @ 3:18 PM ET
Keanu Reeves was a goalie I believe.
- Cable2k


he was. in real life, and in the film.
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