We know our team sucks this year...we have a major hole in net that hopefully will be filled next season.

Flames have made the playoffs 4 times since the Oilers have

And remember its you in a Flames thread not the other way around, second post was a McDavid brag

Oilers with a new coach, new goaltender, new gm, and McDavid are on pace to improve by what 5 points lol

that is an absolute disaster
- flashfire

Once in 7 years

The 3 before any rebuild, or in terms of the debate are pretty irrelevant.
The framing again!

Did you go to journalism school? Or take political science? I'm serious

you are framing the 7 year argument

Oilers haven't made the playoffs in 10 years...not 7 10

Flames have made it 4 times since the Oilers have that is a FACT

again it was an Oilers fan bragging to start this thread off not a Flames fan...we know we are the suck this season, hopefully this season is the one off for this roster

This is turning into two homeless guys fighting over a block of cheese...I am out

Just think before you brag about McDavid in another teams thread when even with him you have the worst record in the entire NHL

We are very aware we suck but do you guys understand you suck as well? Because at times it certainly doesnt seem to be the case...last year means nothing now but I guess if you want to cling to that one playoff appearance then go right ahead
- RatedR80

We know we suck, the point is we suck with far fewer of the opportunities Oil have had and far fewer of the assets they now hove.

We know we suck, the point is we suck with far fewer of the opportunities Oil have had and far fewer of the assets they now hove.
- Sam67

well said

you are framing the 7 year argument

Oilers haven't made the playoffs in 10 years...not 7 10

Flames have made it 4 times since the Oilers have that is a FACT

again it was an Oilers fan bragging to start this thread off not a Flames fan...we know we are the suck this season, hopefully this season is the one off for this roster
- flashfire

How so?

What do I care about the struggle of Hemsky souray and kotalik in 2008?

Nothing before the rebuild years is relevant in terms of this discussion. I care about the struggles of the organization since we tore it down. And in those years, the flames have also been very bad.
If we're talking beyond that, Where does it stop then? Do we start getting into the 80's dynasty years too? Meh. Pretty irrelevant

As is the flames making the playoffs in 2007. It might sound like its a solid counterpoint to you, but I don't agree

Point is, these are two pretty horrible franchises for a long time ( but yes, you guys did have a 1 off last season) and I see very very little reason for a flames fan to think they're abov chirping. From anyone.
Using us as your measuring stuck is pretty silly imo

Saw this oiler troll get torn to pieces in the tanner thread with facts and logic. It was Pretty awesome.
His best response was; " no, Im not wrong!!!".........




Apparently you'd all be interested in Brodie for the first??!!


And then he goes to another thread to spew the same nonsense he just got torn to pieces over
Rationality means nothing to these idiots. .

As far as worst organization, maybe yeah. But this year I'd say your habs are certainly in the running. Is there a team more dependant on one player? Without price are you Guys actually the worst? Wins and losses would indicate so.
- Ihateallofu

LMAO -torn to pieces - LMAO. Are u ever clever - i'm still here. Why don't you tear me to pieces -

LMAO -torn to pieces - LMAO. Are u ever clever - i'm still here. Why don't you tear me to pieces -
- newmy

You can post LMAO as many times as you like, but Its meaningless.


Facts, rationale and logic were used against you. While it seems you used conjecture, guesswork and exaggeration.

I don't see how one could see it any other way than you got torn apart. And it seems everyone on the outside looking in agrees.

Since you're here, why you don't you ask flames fans yourself if they're interested in dealing brodie for the first....

You can post LMAO as many times as you like, but Its meaningless.


Facts, rationale and logic were used against you. While it seems you used conjecture, guesswork and exaggeration.

I don't see how one could see it any other way than you got torn apart. And it seems everyone on the outside looking in agrees.

Since you're here, why you don't you ask flames fans yourself if they're interested in dealing brodie for the first....
- Ihateallofu

Conjecture is a big word for you. LOL, if you think the Flames wouldn't entertain Brodie for the 1st overall pick, it's you & the others that need to wake up. But then again, what would the Oilers know about players, they continue to sit at or near the bottom of the league each year.

What a pathetic organization & I can't wait until McGlass goes down with another injury - that'll shut you up again.

Conjecture is a big word for you. LOL, if you think the Flames wouldn't entertain Brodie for the 1st overall pick, it's you & the others that need to wake up. But then again, what would the Oilers know about players, they continue to sit at or near the bottom of the league each year.

What a pathetic organization & I can't wait until McGlass goes down with another injury - that'll shut you up again.


- newmy

Well ill admit I think using the English language is generally a more valid form of communication than lol/lmao/rofl or multiple emoticons.
But I can understand how "bigger"words might not exactly be in your wheelhouse.

So you're saying that flames fans who know their team inside and out don't know what they're talking about and they need to wake up? Interesting. I guess it's never occurred to you that instead of everyone else, maybe your thoughts are the issue here?..... Yeah, I didn't think so

And because I cheer for a bad team, that means I don't understand talent?
So by that logic, are you always sure to defer to la king and Washington capital fans?? The managing group built an elite team, so through that all their fans are the most intelligent ? When it comes to discussing big scoring left wingers, don't argue with a capitals fans.......!!!
Furthermore, being a Montreal fan, I guess you don't know anything about quality centermen. So you trying to argue about Matthews seems abit hypocritical, no?.....

You keep lobbing them over the plate bro and I'll keep hitting them out though.
You make it so easy

You need to take some lessons from that flash fire guy or dal. These guys know how to debate. Everywhere I look, it seems you continue to bring a knife to Gun fights

Mcglass.... Good one bro. You totally took his last name and used glass instead of David. Cause like he got hurt a few months ago!! You're Killing it !

Really? because I hear lots bragging....Oilers are only one point back of the Flames, 3 less goals against! (Flames worst season in franchise history)

You guys are Shelbyville



"Maybe thats why we beat them at football nearly half the time lolz"

ZOMG McDavid scored a fluke goal and we beat another turrible team last night
- flashfire

Nobody was bragging about where we are in the standings. They were stating a fact. It's ok. I get that your reading comprehension level is at a very sub par level.

Nobody was bragging about where we are in the standings. They were stating a fact. It's ok. I get that your reading comprehension level is at a very sub par level.
- Iloveeveryone

The only strange part is that he is under the impression that oiler fans are using the flames as a measuring stick...?
I can't imagine where he got this idea.
It's the exact opposite

They're both terrible. I want no part of striving for that

aweeeee the coilers fans came out to play cause finally Calgary is almost as garbage as their team for the first time in 10 years! You guys are sooooo cute
- calgaryflames4life

Do you not remember taking Monahan 1 spot ahead of us taking Nurse? Your lack of facts and knowledge is the the only cute thing I see here.

This guy said coilers
And you just know he thinks it was clever


He's either super Young or not intelligent enough to bother with
- Ihateallofu

I'm going with the latter

Calgary has one top 5 and ZERO top 3 picks in franchise history

trust me we know we are bad this season because its the Flames worst season ever...not just another season like the last ten
- flashfire

Funny how in both instances you conveniently make the cutoff one spot ahead of where your team picked.

LMAO -torn to pieces - LMAO. Are u ever clever - i'm still here. Why don't you tear me to pieces -
- newmy

Now this clown chimes in. One of the top 5 worst posters on the site. Your trolling isn't even clever. You're pretty much a keyboard jockey that runs his mouth without any actual facts, or knowledge. A joke. I just feel bad for you and anyone else that shares a gene pool with you.

The only strange part is that he is under the impression that oiler fans are using the flames as a measuring stick...?
I can't imagine where he got this idea.
It's the exact opposite

They're both terrible. I want no part of striving for that
- Ihateallofu

Thats the whole point really...one of us can actually own up to it and admit while the other hides behind excuses such as "lack of high draft picks" or "we made the playoffs last year"...you dont need high draft picks to win in this league you need a team thats 4 lines deep with good defence and goaltending...we both suck regardless of whatever situation

Why the (frank) are you idiots still arguing about whose less crap ...it's the ongoing arguement that gets you nowhere ...don't make Todd put up charts to prove to you all how pointless this is

Well ill admit I think using the English language is generally a more valid form of communication than lol/lmao/rofl or multiple emoticons.
But I can understand how "bigger"words might not exactly be in your wheelhouse.

So you're saying that flames fans who know their team inside and out don't know what they're talking about and they need to wake up? Interesting. I guess it's never occurred to you that instead of everyone else, maybe your thoughts are the issue here?..... Yeah, I didn't think so

And because I cheer for a bad team, that means I don't understand talent?
So by that logic, are you always sure to defer to la king and Washington capital fans?? The managing group built an elite team, so through that all their fans are the most intelligent ? When it comes to discussing big scoring left wingers, don't argue with a capitals fans.......!!!
Furthermore, being a Montreal fan, I guess you don't know anything about quality centermen. So you trying to argue about Matthews seems abit hypocritical, no?.....

You keep lobbing them over the plate bro and I'll keep hitting them out though.
You make it so easy

You need to take some lessons from that flash fire guy or dal. These guys know how to debate. Everywhere I look, it seems you continue to bring a knife to Gun fights

Mcglass.... Good one bro. You totally took his last name and used glass instead of David. Cause like he got hurt a few months ago!! You're Killing it !
- Ihateallofu

Didn't you know that injuries only happen in professional sports to Oilers? Because they're made of glass?

Why the (frank) are you idiots still arguing about whose less crap ...it's the ongoing arguement that gets you nowhere ...don't make Todd put up charts to prove to you all how pointless this is
- Redmile247

I dont need charts to put togeather that we both arent where we want to be....just looking at the standings year in and out sums it up.....both teams suck

Why the (frank) are you idiots still arguing about whose less crap ...it's the ongoing arguement that gets you nowhere ...don't make Todd put up charts to prove to you all how pointless this is
- Redmile247

I never actually argued who's less crap.

The oilers aren't less crap than anyone

Plus, I've got 45 mins of work left, so I've got the time and nowhere to go

And just to note I made that one extra long and extra serious because this donkey singled me out in a conversation that I wasn't even part of.

I know I do a lot of long posts. If you don't like them skip over them. Nobody forces anybody to read anything on here. (I do love when somebody takes the time to read my long post, only to comment that it was a long post). But I have never done a long one that was all cracking on the Oilers. Usually all about future for the Flames and where I believe they should go with players.
- dal_johnson

Don't worry. I love you dad.

I am jumping into this late.......but let me put it this way:

McDavid aside (because that really was a huge (frank)ing fluke), would you Oilers fans legitimately not trade the Oilers roster for the Flames roster? Standings aside because both teams are horsepoop this season, I think it's a no brainer the Flames are built better. I guess maybe this is what's causing the hostility?

I never actually argued who's less crap.

The oilers aren't less crap than anyone

Plus, I've got 45 mins of work left, so I've got the time and nowhere to go
- Ihateallofu

I get to go home right now!

Anyways, I think today was really productive and we all learned a lot from each other.

And yes both teams suck, but at the end of the day.......at least we are not Newmy! You guys do realize that you are little more Newmy than us, but we will not hold it against you.

Just so you clowns know, I stated in the Oilers thread how easy it is to get dummies riled up on hockeybuzz when I'm bored and want a laugh. Then, I come in here and make one joking comment about McDavid at the top of the thread. You have proven my point for me and given me hours of comedy. Thanks for being the predictable bunch of troglodytes that I knew you were.

I am jumping into this late.......but let me put it this way:

McDavid aside (because that really was a huge (frank)ing fluke), would you Oilers fans legitimately not trade the Oilers roster for the Flames roster? Standings aside because both teams are horsepoop this season, I think it's a no brainer the Flames are built better. I guess maybe this is what's causing the hostility?
- The-O-G

I think you guys are built WAY better on the blueline then we are for sure....the forwards? I dont know we both have our plusses and minuses and as far as goaltending? I would take Talbot right now over anyone and Brossiot looks good....so I would take your guys blueline with our goalie then a mix of both teams forwards...thats a playoff team right there