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jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 2 @ 7:27 PM ET
Any news on old Wideman? What a dragged out mess this has turned into.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:36 PM ET
Any news on old Wideman? What a dragged out mess this has turned into.
- jessehub


How many games has he missed since he originally got suspended?
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
How many games has he missed since he originally got suspended?
- RatedR80


12 or 13 now?

Like we're not missing him or anything, but this arbitration process is extremely unfair for the player. They should make it more like baseball where the player gets to play until the appeal process is done with. Bet this thing would've been settled in a week or two

I'm hoping he comes back pissed as (frank) and puts up some numbers like he did at the end of last year, be nice if he could create a market for himself so we can dump his contract at the draft.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
How many games has he missed since he originally got suspended?
- RatedR80


12 or 13 now?

Like we're not missing him or anything, but this arbitration process is extremely unfair for the player. They should make it more like baseball where the player gets to play until the appeal process is done with. Bet this thing would've been settled in a week or two

I'm hoping he comes back pissed as (frank) and puts up some numbers like he did at the end of last year, be nice if he could create a market for himself so we can dump his contract at the draft.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
How many games has he missed since he originally got suspended?
- RatedR80


12 or 13 now?

Like we're not missing him or anything, but this arbitration process is extremely unfair for the player. They should make it more like baseball where the player gets to play until the appeal process is done with. Bet this thing would've been settled in a week or two

I'm hoping he comes back pissed as (frank) and puts up some numbers like he did at the end of last year, be nice if he could create a market for himself so we can dump his contract at the draft.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:45 PM ET
12 or 13 now?

Like we're not missing him or anything, but this arbitration process is extremely unfair for the player. They should make it more like baseball where the player gets to play until the appeal process is done with. Bet this thing would've been settled in a week or two

I'm hoping he comes back pissed as (frank) and puts up some numbers like he did at the end of last year, be nice if he could create a market for himself so we can dump his contract at the draft.

- Saskabush


Jeez it will be 20 games before the matter is even settled...hindsight he should have just sat for the 20
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
12 or 13 now?

Like we're not missing him or anything, but this arbitration process is extremely unfair for the player. They should make it more like baseball where the player gets to play until the appeal process is done with. Bet this thing would've been settled in a week or two

I'm hoping he comes back pissed as (frank) and puts up some numbers like he did at the end of last year, be nice if he could create a market for himself so we can dump his contract at the draft.

- Saskabush


Yeah 100% it should be like MLB. Bettman totally took advantage of the situation, Why he was even involved is stupid..We all knew what his decision was going to be. It should go straight to arbitrator. Too many BS steps. Cluster F*&% from the get go
Iloveeveryone
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 03.02.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:16 PM ET
Your a dork! Yea mcdavid is good but, I am already tired of everybody blowing so much smoke up his ass!! Every time he touches the puck oh my god he is so great. Shut the (frank) up. Everybody is going off how good of a ot goal that was last night but really the goalie should have had it!!!
- pzoxic

So peanut butter and jelly!!!
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:40 PM ET
How many games has he missed since he originally got suspended?
- RatedR80


Yesterday was game 15. I don't miss him, he can take the rest of the year off for all i care.
Iloveeveryone
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 03.02.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:48 PM ET
Yesterday was game 15. I don't miss him, he can take the rest of the year off for all i care.
- dr_soiledpants

He deserved what he got anyway.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:08 PM ET
Jeez it will be 20 games before the matter is even settled...hindsight he should have just sat for the 20
- RatedR80



Mostly about money at this point, he stands to lose 500 K in salary. Don't blame him for trying to get as much of that back as possible, can't say I wouldn't do the same
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:11 PM ET
Yesterday was game 15. I don't miss him, he can take the rest of the year off for all i care.
- dr_soiledpants


He has a year left on his contract, wouldn't mind giving him a shot at building up some trade value in meaningless games before the summer. He excelled when he was given more of a role last year, I fully expect Gio and Brodie's minutes to be scaled back in order to give the rest of our d more experience in all situations.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 2 @ 10:21 PM ET
Seriously guy, don't get to excited.

After all, you could still have Russell on the roster
Werdnaknows
Joined: 12.06.2014

Mar 2 @ 10:39 PM ET
Yesterday was game 15. I don't miss him, he can take the rest of the year off for all i care.
- dr_soiledpants

What he was left off the world cup roster.
Iloveeveryone
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 03.02.2015

Mar 2 @ 10:57 PM ET
Seriously guy, don't get to excited.

After all, you could still have Russell on the roster

- Whiskey-Tango

Or they could have Benning as a GM and fail to move anybody for value.

P.S. that made my trade deadline day
DouglasFir
Calgary Flames
Joined: 07.23.2015

Mar 2 @ 11:42 PM ET
Conjecture is a big word for you. LOL, if you think the Flames wouldn't entertain Brodie for the 1st overall pick, it's you & the others that need to wake up. But then again, what would the Oilers know about players, they continue to sit at or near the bottom of the league each year.

What a pathetic organization & I can't wait until McGlass goes down with another injury - that'll shut you up again.


- newmy

Fck off dude!! You continue to embarrass yourself!
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:39 AM ET
And here I was starting to feel like I wasn't needed...

Stop trolling each other... Flames fans, Oil fans... discuss whatever you want. Stop calling each other names or I'll hand out long bans to both parties because I'm too busy to have to come back and do it again in a week.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 3 @ 1:06 AM ET
cmonnnn

U hit the jackpot in the 4th round

If it was such great scouting knowing he'd be so great hedve been your first pick. This wasnt some brilliant scheme to leave him out there.

A number 1 in the 4th round.
You got lucky for the most part.
Scouting is far from an exact science. Wayy more misses than hits.
Late rounds are crapshoots

- Ihateallofu

Shows how little you know. Learn the story of CGY's scouting and subsequent plan on drafting Gaudreau. Then you'll understand it's not simply luck in a crapshoot.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 3 @ 1:24 AM ET
Shows how little you know. Learn the story of CGY's scouting and subsequent plan on drafting Gaudreau. Then you'll understand it's not simply luck in a crapshoot.
- TandA4Flames
Huh?

In 2005- their most successful pick played a total of ten games in the nhl.
2006- "" Leland Irving with 13.
2007- backlund is the only solid pick.
08- bouma and brodie
09- ""Tim erixon with 20
10- ""max Reinhart with 20

Etc etc etc (some of the years previous were even worse)

And most of those I named with little to no success (but still by far your best pick of the year) in the nhl were first rounders.

So tell me again how it's an exact science and they knew exactly what they were doing taking Brodie with their second pick of the 4th round?

2011 looks like a great year (jg, brossoit) but then 2012 looks brutal.
Theres soooooo much luck involved. It's hardly even debateable
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 3 @ 1:33 AM ET
Huh?

In 2005- their most successful pick played a total of ten games in the nhl.
2006- "" Leland Irving with 13.
2007- backlund is the only solid pick
08- bouma and brodie
09- Tim erixon with 20
10- max Reinhart with 20

Etc etc etc

And most of those named with little to no success in the nhl were first rounders.

So tell me again how it's an exact science and they knew exactly what they were doing taking to Brodie with their second pick of the 4th round?

2011 looks like a great year (jg, brossoit) but then 2012 looks brutal........soooooo much luck involved. It's hardly even debateable

- Ihateallofu

Wow. For a guy that insults people regularly about being able to read, perhaps you should follow your own advise. Nothing you're saying here has anything to do with what I said. And to clarify, I didn't say exact science, you did. I'm just debunking your "luck" and "crapshoot" theory on Gaudreau
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 3 @ 1:39 AM ET
Shows how little you know. Learn the story of CGY's scouting and subsequent plan on drafting Gaudreau. Then you'll understand it's not simply luck in a crapshoot.
- TandA4Flames


I pretty much just proved that it is

Tj Brodie in the 4th round turning into a true 1 is absolutely unequivocally luck


But I never even mentioned gaudreau. Not once

I'm not sure what it is exactly that u feel you've "debunked" ?



also, I NEVER use the "learn to read" insult. You just made that up so you could use it on me.
I use much better insults than that.
Iloveeveryone
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 03.02.2015

Mar 3 @ 1:44 AM ET
Wow. For a guy that insults people regularly about being able to read, perhaps you should follow your own advise. Nothing you're saying here has anything to do with what I said. And to clarify, I didn't say exact science, you did. I'm just debunking your "luck" and "crapshoot" theory on Gaudreau
- TandA4Flames

You're not doing anything but make yourself look like a fool. Didn't take a guy until the 4th round, knowing he's gonna turn into a #1 dman??? That's really one the most foolish things I've read on here (including the drivel newmy spews). I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul!
TheIronSheik
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: No matter how bad it gets, at least they aren't the Oilers.
Joined: 09.08.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:35 AM ET
Actually they weren't the worst team in the league overall in the last 5 years.
TheIronSheik
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: No matter how bad it gets, at least they aren't the Oilers.
Joined: 09.08.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:56 AM ET
12 or 13 now?

Like we're not missing him or anything, but this arbitration process is extremely unfair for the player. They should make it more like baseball where the player gets to play until the appeal process is done with. Bet this thing would've been settled in a week or two

I'm hoping he comes back pissed as (frank) and puts up some numbers like he did at the end of last year, be nice if he could create a market for himself so we can dump his contract at the draft.

- Saskabush

I doubt there's much of a market at all for Wideman. he fits well on the flames with 3 quality defenders ahead of him...but that contract is immovable.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Mar 3 @ 10:01 AM ET
I doubt there's much of a market at all for Wideman. he fits well on the flames with 3 quality defenders ahead of him...but that contract is immovable.
- TheIronSheik


Yeah if they can retain some salary (a lot) there might be a team who thinks that he could work with a rookie on there 3rd pair and be useful on the powerplay (emphasis on might).

I think Boston would have taken him this year over JML.

Heard that idiot Potatoe got the permaban. RIP
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