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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 3 @ 9:38 AM ET
Hate to say this but, the standings suggest otherwise...
- Pecafan Fan



No you don't.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 3 @ 9:40 AM ET
Really you hate to say that... yeah it must be tearing you up inside.
- BKups

InTheWood
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: collingwood, ON
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 3 @ 9:40 AM ET
There is an approximate (crudely calculated) 50% chance the Leafs draft 4th
- twiztedmike



Even if we finish last??? Also thank you and Burn for the links and info.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 3 @ 9:41 AM ET
Here's another piece of potentially bad news for draft day:

The Flyers are closing in on the Penguins.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:42 AM ET
Marvin the Martian


Haven't seen cowen in a leaf jersey and won't.

- burn

Agreed. However if he did ever dress for a game then all criticisms of blatant tanking would then hold a bit more validity.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 3 @ 9:43 AM ET
Here's another piece of potentially bad news for draft day:

The Flyers are closing in on the Penguins.

- Atomic Wedgie



Malkin was out for a while, he is back, they will be fine. Have the faith.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Mar 3 @ 9:44 AM ET
They have the worst goal differential in the league ( -36 ) along with Edmonton.

So, yeah, I don't know...

- Pecafan Fan



Regardless, I'd like to see how many 1 goal games they have lost

If you can provide that information, great. If not, then carry on
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:44 AM ET
Not nearly as many as expected.


Many more one goal losses than you'd think.

- burn

Many?
Nah

quick count
19 losses by 2 goals or more
23 losses by 1 goal or more
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:44 AM ET
Regardless, I'd like to see how many 1 goal games they have lost

If you can provide that information, great. If not, then carry on

- WingmanWillie

I just did
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Mar 3 @ 9:46 AM ET
Even if we finish last??? Also thank you and Burn for the links and info.
- InTheWood

I just crudely calculated it

There's a 20% chance to win 1st overall in the lottery

I know that once you win, there's a lottery for the 2nd pick and every other team's chances go up slightly to win that one

But basically I took an 100% - 20% chance of winning = 80% chance of losing the lottery

Because I didn't wanna do permutations and combinations and stats and poop I just took the 80% chance of losing and multiplied it by losing by 80% for the 2nd lottery and multiplied it for losing again by 80%

.80 * .80 * .80 = ~ 50% chance of not winning any lotteries as the last overall team
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:46 AM ET
Here's another piece of potentially bad news for draft day:

The Flyers are closing in on the Penguins.

- Atomic Wedgie

It would be so leafs to lose out on Pitts 1st and draft 6th this year.

I would laugh my ass off.

then cry


then cheer for a new team
BKups
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:46 AM ET
Even if we finish last??? Also thank you and Burn for the links and info.
- InTheWood


Ran the draft 10 times and 7 out of the 10 we ended up top 3. Big gap between the 20% (1st) and 13.5% (2nd) in terms of getting not only the 1st overall but even into the top 3.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 3 @ 9:46 AM ET
What I need to know is how many Norris titles will Gardiner win based on this chart?
- BlueBallz


He is being retrospectively awarded the last 3 Norris trophies.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:47 AM ET
Ran the draft 10 times and 7 out of the 10 we ended up top 3. Big gap between the 20% (1st) and 13.5% (2nd) in terms of getting not only the 1st overall but even into the top 3.
- BKups

the simulator really means nothing.
BKups
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:47 AM ET

- bixll

quick on the trigger
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 3 @ 9:48 AM ET
I'll be honest. I have no idea what this means. Do the Leafs plot well or poorly on the graph?
- walshyleafsfan


Leafs are the last dot on the right ... 30th in the league in points percent and 10th in CF%
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 3 @ 9:48 AM ET
Regardless, I'd like to see how many 1 goal games they have lost

If you can provide that information, great. If not, then carry on

- WingmanWillie


Yeah I'm trying to find that info somewhere. No luck so far.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:49 AM ET
Yeah I'm trying to find that info somewhere. No luck so far.
- Pecafan Fan

quick count
19 losses by 2 goals or more
23 losses by 1 goal or more

This team just sucks.
no real bright spots.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 3 @ 9:49 AM ET
Nylander, Hyman, Kapanen.

0 goals.

0 assists.

0 points.

Bust, bustier, bustiest.

Ha ha ha - you pathetic Leafs fans are always the same - drafting small crapz that don't score or amount to anything!

Plan the parade!

1967!

- Atomic Wedgie


Pyramid Power!

Paper-bag-head Coach!

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 3 @ 9:50 AM ET
They have the worst goal differential in the league ( -36 ) along with Edmonton.

So, yeah, I don't know...

- Pecafan Fan




The bolded made me laugh
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 9:52 AM ET
My calculations say out of the 41 loses the Leafs have 22 have been by 1 goal and 9 have been by 2
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Mar 3 @ 9:52 AM ET
In Nonis' last hurrah, he went out and made a undrafted free agent signing. Mark Hunter did the same.

This is where you see the clearest difference in talent evaluation

Nonis signed Casey Bailey
Hunter signed Nikita Soshnikov

I'm so thankful for our current management staff
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 3 @ 9:53 AM ET
quick on the trigger
- BKups



At times..
rSole
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I usually disagree with Dozzer, ON
Joined: 12.16.2013

Mar 3 @ 9:53 AM ET
To help explain the lottery probabilities.

If the leafs finish last they have a 20% of getting first. If they don't get 1st then the probability of getting the 2nd will ended on who actually got the first pick. For example of if the 2nd last person happens to get the first(the best scenario) then the leafs would then have a 23% chance of getting the 2nd pick. If the don't get the second pick and let's say the 3rd last team gets it(best case scenario) then the leafs would have around a 27% of getting the 3rd pick.

So the probability that the leafs finish last and not get 1st or 2nd or 3rd is 45%

So the leafs will have around 55% chance of picking top 3 if they finish last (slight variation depends on who wins each pick)

I am a mathematician, so there is your math lesson for the day.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Mar 3 @ 9:54 AM ET
quick count
19 losses by 2 goals or more
23 losses by 1 goal or more

This team just sucks.
no real bright spots.

- Fakepartofme



That makes no sense. Every loss by the "or more" in "1 goal or more" would automatically go into "2 goals or more"

I call shenanigans
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