Oz stinks.
- AdamFrench

All hail marincin.

Getting to a point where i dont want to even come on here because of him!
- nbboy

what a bunch of snowflakes lmaoooooo

All hail marincin.
- burn

Towers of power baby! Let's go!

As per usual, some Leafs fans will blame the referees.
- Unholy_Goalie

You're a (frank)ing idiot
- jimi james

Getting to a point where i dont want to even come on here because of him!
- nbboy

Really sucks that you log in and just skip over pages and pages of the same poop every night. Ugtard repeating the same poop over and over. Telling the rest of us how wrong we are when we have a differing opinion. Whatever happened to the notion that you give your opinion on a topic (ONCE) and move on.

- winsix

Holy smokes

Morning fellas.

Really sucks that you log in and just skip over pages and pages of the same poop every night. Ugtard repeating the same poop over and over. Telling the rest of us how wrong we are when we have a differing opinion. Whatever happened to the notion that you give your opinion on a topic (ONCE) and move on.



- .HOHO.

Because his opinion is a fact, no matter how many sections of the nhl rule book or cba you post telling he's wrong.

Andersen has been sucking!
- Jrw10

are you kidding me pal, when you score 1 measly goal in 2 games you can't blame the goalie, hopefully goldielocks Willie will sign soon so his goal scoring will help in games like the last 2.

what in God's name has happened to Andreas Johnnson, he looks like a totally different player?

what in God's name has happened to Andreas Johnnson, he looks like a totally different player?
- bluestar

He read about OV's celebrations with the Cups and tried to outdo him with the Calder.

what in God's name has happened to Andreas Johnnson, he looks like a totally different player?
- bluestar

Not sure, maybe he needs talent to play with, like Kadri, whom I thought he'd be playing with this year, but I don't know if they've skated together once.

Really sucks that you log in and just skip over pages and pages of the same poop every night. Ugtard repeating the same poop over and over. Telling the rest of us how wrong we are when we have a differing opinion. Whatever happened to the notion that you give your opinion on a topic (ONCE) and move on.



- .HOHO.

It's really easy to tear apart too:

1. Nylander is not a trade asset right now, not until he's signed; nobody wants the headache.

2. Nylander would not fetch a #1 RHD. Maybe a Faulk (not a #1 RHD), but not a Trouba. Not a knock against Nylander, but #1 RHDs are rare, expensive commodities.

3. His darling Pietrangelo made a couple of Gardiner gaffs on Saturday night; nobody here said anything, because we didn't score. Confirmation biases are deadly around here.

4. Losing an offensive weapon like Nylander makes us a two-line threat; lots of teams have two-line threats, so if we want 3 lines that can score, we need Nylander.

5. Adding a #1 RHD maybe improves us defensively (marginally, very marginally), but weakens us offensively (assuming Nylander goes), so now we're moving towards a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none model?

Pietrangelo would be great but Nylander is not getting you him so it's not really worth mentioning when talking about dealing him for a RHD. Maybe if he tells the Blues he's going UFA then there's something but since isn't, and he's the player he is, the Blues will do everything they can to re-sign him and most likely will.

I agree the Leafs need defensive help but just trading Nylander is not going to solve that problem, they need at least two new 2nd pairing dmen and probably an upgrade in another pairing if they want to compete with the likes of Tampa.

Thing is, maybe they don't have match Tampa and can play to their strengths right now, which would mean keeping Nylander and having the edge up front. As the Caps and Pens have proven over the last few years, it's a legitimate way to build a cup team. The Preds and Lightning both had much better D depth and still came up short. If the right deal comes along for a Dman then they obviously should make it, if not, then stay put and build around the forward depth until it does.
- 13sundin13

The Leafs shoudnt have to add anything for a 28 (almost 29 yo) Dman if they are trading Nylander.

There are a bunch of reasons why that would be a terrible move for the Leafs at this point. Nylander has his best years coming, and AP is heading into his decline. for Defense it can come pretty quick. A is not going to make the difference everyone thinks he will

Honestly Adding Nylander or AP to the team right now imo is pretty close when it comes to moving the needle for the team as a whole.

there is maybe 2 or 3 realistic options to trade Nylander for in the whole league at this point. So its not going to happen.

It's really easy to tear apart too:

1. Nylander is not a trade asset right now, not until he's signed; nobody wants the headache.

2. Nylander would not fetch a #1 RHD. Maybe a Faulk (not a #1 RHD), but not a Trouba. Not a knock against Nylander, but #1 RHDs are rare, expensive commodities.

3. His darling Pietrangelo made a couple of Gardiner gaffs on Saturday night; nobody here said anything, because we didn't score. Confirmation biases are deadly around here.

4. Losing an offensive weapon like Nylander makes us a two-line threat; lots of teams have two-line threats, so if we want 3 lines that can score, we need Nylander.

5. Adding a #1 RHD maybe improves us defensively (marginally, very marginally), but weakens us offensively (assuming Nylander goes), so now we're moving towards a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none model?
- gravyface

and all this ^

i just looked at AP stats so far this season.. pretty weak

(frank) that

It's really easy to tear apart too:

1. Nylander is not a trade asset right now, not until he's signed; nobody wants the headache.

2. Nylander would not fetch a #1 RHD. Maybe a Faulk (not a #1 RHD), but not a Trouba. Not a knock against Nylander, but #1 RHDs are rare, expensive commodities.

3. His darling Pietrangelo made a couple of Gardiner gaffs on Saturday night; nobody here said anything, because we didn't score. Confirmation biases are deadly around here.

4. Losing an offensive weapon like Nylander makes us a two-line threat; lots of teams have two-line threats, so if we want 3 lines that can score, we need Nylander.

5. Adding a #1 RHD maybe improves us defensively (marginally, very marginally), but weakens us offensively (assuming Nylander goes), so now we're moving towards a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none model?
- gravyface

I disagree with this. A #1 RHD is a big improvement over Hainsey. Though, with Ozhiganov looking pretty good on the 3rd pairing, you don't have as much of a cascade effect in terms of improvement as you would have had in previous seasons.

Nonetheless, Hainsey is clearly outmatched as a top pairing d, and will be overworked again if no improvements are made to the D.

The Leafs shoudnt have to add anything for a 28 (almost 29 yo) Dman if they are trading Nylander.

There are a bunch of reasons why that would be a terrible move for the Leafs at this point. Nylander has his best years coming, and AP is heading into his decline. for Defense it can come pretty quick. A is not going to make the difference everyone thinks he will

Honestly Adding Nylander or AP to the team right now imo is pretty close when it comes to moving the needle for the team as a whole.

there is maybe 2 or 3 realistic options to trade Nylander for in the whole league at this point. So its not going to happen.
- senstroll

Troof, you speaketh.

AP doesn't really do anything for me to be honest, but there are few in the league I'd trade Nylander for.

We're in a bit of scoring slump right now, but that's because our bottom 6 is pretty abysmal offensively right now.

Johnsson's in a bit of a funk, but you're not going to get him going playing on his wrong wing on the 4th line.

It was only 2 games that they lost. They are not out of the playoffs.

Holy smokes.

I disagree with this. A #1 RHD is a big improvement over Hainsey. Though, with Ozhiganov looking pretty good on the 3rd pairing, you don't have as much of a cascade effect in terms of improvement as you would have had in previous seasons.

Nonetheless, Hainsey is clearly outmatched as a top pairing d, and will be overworked again if no improvements are made to the D.
- Feeling Glucky?

We have Hainsey improvements in our lineup at 5v5 though and they're free: Zaitsev already plays the most minutes on the backend; Gardiner and Rielly were excellent together. Dermott could probably slot up too.

I just don't see a single RHD improving the overall defensive play of this team: looks good on paper, but we're a fast, transitional team, so unless it's Karlsson or Doughty back there (not going to happen), the "top pairing D" we get isn't going to make that much of a difference.

It was only 2 games that they lost. They are not out of the playoffs.

Holy smokes.
- bixll

Should've been here Saturday night: Suicide Watch was in effect.

How bad was Saturday? Most of what I've read leads me to believe STL effectively shut down our top 6 and the rest of the team did Richard all.

Anybody find it odd how UG, who just last season, was going on about how the Leafs were 5 years away, but now all of a sudden wants to trade young players for older ones on expiring contracts and go for it?


Oh, it’s because he’s a female genitalia? Carry on...

and all this ^

i just looked at AP stats so far this season.. pretty weak

(frank) that
- senstroll

Before the season started, UGtard wanted to trade Rielly for Pietrangelo.

I disagree with this. A #1 RHD is a big improvement over Hainsey. Though, with Ozhiganov looking pretty good on the 3rd pairing, you don't have as much of a cascade effect in terms of improvement as you would have had in previous seasons.

Nonetheless, Hainsey is clearly outmatched as a top pairing d, and will be overworked again if no improvements are made to the D.
- Feeling Glucky?

the 2 options are

Add Nylander
Add Mystery RHD

Both are big improvements to the current lineup.

UG and HOHO are actually the same person

UG and HOHO are actually the same person
- plantheparade

yup
Just like Tanner and Meltzer is...

How bad was Saturday? Most of what I've read leads me to believe STL effectively shut down our top 6 and the rest of the team did Richard all.
- markmark

Well, I watched the whole thing (relatively sober; this is key to passing the eye test) and it was mostly lack of energy and execution, outside of the 3rd period.

Fancy stats said that we weren't bad possession wise, just didn't get off enough shots to test Jake Allen.

I blame Fortnite.