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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
why in the world would you think Duchene would cost this much as a rental? A 1st and O'Brien would probably get it done.
- hereticpride



No sense in renting if Flyers -- you do the trade if he is resigned ala Kimmo/Hartnell
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
Give Hart the start and a chance to bounce back from yesterday (even though it wasn’t all on him). But keep him on a short leash.
- jsh139


IMO, wasn't even mostly on him. Of the five goals he allowed yesterday, two were good looks from the slot, two were deflections. The Vanek goal might have been stoppable but was fired from the dot, which is an area where he's scored quite a few goals over the years. One of those games where the goalie's stats end up looking ugly but was more on the team in front of him either making miscues or getting outworked.

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
IMO, wasn't even mostly on him. Of the five goals he allowed yesterday, two were good looks from the slot, two were deflections. The Vanek goal might have been stoppable but was fired from the dot, which is an area where he's scored quite a few goals over the years. One of those games where the goalie's stats end up looking ugly but was more on the team in front of him either making miscues or getting outworked.
- bmeltzer


I was at the game yesterday and I said the same thing to my friend. Hart didn’t make his usual spectacular saves we are used to seeing but 4 of the goals were legit almost impossible to stop.

On a side note I met a nice couple from Detroit at the game yesterday. Got to talking, told him as long as he isn’t a jerk no one in philly will mess with him. He bought us a round. We bought them a round. Had a really good time. I wish all fans from other teams would be as cool as them.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
No sense in renting if Flyers -- you do the trade if he is resigned ala Kimmo/Hartnell
- corduroy

Still, that doesn't change what his trade value is in an expiring deal. What you suggested is ridiculous. Patrick, a blue chip prospect, a 1st, and Simmonds.

There's only about 4 players in the entire league worth that haul.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 17 @ 1:21 PM ET
IMO, wasn't even mostly on him. Of the five goals he allowed yesterday, two were good looks from the slot, two were deflections. The Vanek goal might have been stoppable but was fired from the dot, which is an area where he's scored quite a few goals over the years. One of those games where the goalie's stats end up looking ugly but was more on the team in front of him either making miscues or getting outworked.
- bmeltzer


bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Penguins and rangers playing and forced to cheer for the rangers. Bleh
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
15-5-4 - Does this get us in?
- Bayareaflyer


Need to go something like 17-6-1
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
Penguins and rangers playing and forced to cheer for the rangers. Bleh
- bulet13


You know it’s going to go to OT
ICUBB
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.03.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:30 PM ET
Duchene? Why in the hell would we want that over-hyped POS. He averages the same points per game as Jake. Is ALOT smaller. Will be way more expensive after renewing and whines like a little girl.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
Duchene? Why in the hell would we want that over-hyped POS. He averages the same points per game as Jake. Is ALOT smaller. Will be way more expensive after renewing and whines like a little girl.
- ICUBB


Add the fact that drama/trouble has followed him from COL to OTT. Seems like a bad locker room guy imo.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
Duchene? Why in the hell would we want that over-hyped POS. He averages the same points per game as Jake. Is ALOT smaller. Will be way more expensive after renewing and whines like a little girl.
- ICUBB



And all that for 8 mil a year....nice player but not a great fit.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
the wings are trying (should be anyway) to get jack Hughes. the flyers are trying to make the playoffs and get eliminated by Tampa in the first round. please win today flyers. thanks.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
Need to go something like 17-6-1
- bulet13


If things stay on track the way they are it’s not good enough
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 2/17/19 @ DET
- bmeltzer


Proposed price for Stone is a 1st, a prospect, and an NHL roster player. Would imagine Sens looking for similar haul for Duchene.

Duchene has some baggage. I wonder if playing with vets like G, Jake, Coots puts him in a better mindset.

I'm on record as saying I'd like him as a top center option. Seems to be better offensively and would allow us to move G back to wing. BUT, price may be too high.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
the wings are trying (should be anyway) to get jack Hughes. the flyers are trying to make the playoffs and get eliminated by Tampa in the first round. please win today flyers. thanks.
- wingz4life


Full court press to get annihilated
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:10 PM ET
I liked that we got out to that 5-1 lead. I've thought that we tend to get complacent once we get a small lead. Felt that we need to get greedy and keep going for more. Christ, Ovi gets his 1st goal and doesn't start thinking about passing. He's thinking about getting his 2nd goal.

Once Wings got a little momentum, we didn't respond. We need to develop that instinct to put teams away.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:15 PM ET
Rags tie it up
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
Rags tie it up
- MBFlyerfan

Zuccarello as an rental. Hoping for Isles flyers first round. 😏
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad...to-give-up-the-ghost.html

Hope this is more smoke than fire. Ghost was one of thier better players last night in my eyes.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:32 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad.com/2019/02/why-the-flyers-might-be-ready-to-give-up-the-ghost.html

Hope this is more smoke than fire. Ghost was one of thier better players last night in my eyes.

- Baxter27


Trading ghost now would be an absolute panic move and would completely lose any trust in the front office. Defensemen sometimes struggle. Letang had a meh year last year and look at him now. If we see another year of ghost struggling maybe then we can discuss it, or if Myers comes in and lights the world on fire, but until then ghost needs to be in the teams current and future plans
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Feb 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad.com/2019/02/why-the-flyers-might-be-ready-to-give-up-the-ghost.html

Hope this is more smoke than fire. Ghost was one of thier better players last night in my eyes.

- Baxter27

Stop it immediately.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
Gone done good. Would even float our first at this point if we recoup one in a simmer deal.
- Tfaehner

yea these idiots ruined the value of our 1st
i can deal with trading it now
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
Add the fact that drama/trouble has followed him from COL to OTT. Seems like a bad locker room guy imo.
- arichardson22

stay the (frank) away from douche he's cancer
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
I said out loud to myself “they’re gonna score right now” and two seconds later Pens do.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
(frank)ing rangers
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