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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:38 PM ET
jello salad
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 14 @ 11:07 PM ET
jello salad
- kicksave856

i wouldn't be sure i want to understand it
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 14 @ 11:10 PM ET
i wouldn't be sure i want to understand it
- Gramps28

i just learned about it in between posts and it is so scary.

so so scary.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 14 @ 11:15 PM ET
i just learned about it in between posts and it is so scary.

so so scary.

- kicksave856

whatever you do, don't take it to a party at pete's house.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 7:58 AM ET
Fox NewsVerified account
‏@FoxNews
.@newtgingrich: "We should...test every person here who is of a Muslim background, & if they believe in shariah they should be deported."
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 15 @ 8:15 AM ET
Fox NewsVerified account
‏@FoxNews
.@newtgingrich: "We should...test every person here who is of a Muslim background, & if they believe in shariah they should be deported."

- PhillySportsGuy




51% of U.S. Muslims want Sharia; 60% of young Muslims more loyal to Islam than to U.S.

https://www.jihadwatch.or...oyal-to-islam-than-to-u-s
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 8:48 AM ET
51% of U.S. Muslims want Sharia; 60% of young Muslims more loyal to Islam than to U.S.

https://www.jihadwatch.or...oyal-to-islam-than-to-u-s

- D0PPELGANGER


We should put them in camps. That will solve everything.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
i just learned about it in between posts and it is so scary.

so so scary.

- kicksave856


New age jello salad is good
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 15 @ 9:33 AM ET
We should put them in camps. That will solve everything.
- PhillySportsGuy

whoa
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 15 @ 9:33 AM ET
New age jello salad is good
- Streit2ThePoint

whoa
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
We should put them in camps. That will solve everything.
- PhillySportsGuy


Separation of Church and State must be taught in school, and all religion must be removed from publicly funded schools.

We have a bunch of left wing progressive liberal school boards here that actually allows Imams to run segregated Islamic prayers in schools on Fridays
Shutdown
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: a fat guy sitting on a toilet with no back and his head resting on his balls pic, NC
Joined: 04.06.2008

Jul 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
Separation of Church and State must be taught in school, and all religion must be removed from publicly funded schools.

We have a bunch of left wing progressive liberal school boards here that actually allows Imams to run segregated Islamic prayers in schools on Fridays

- D0PPELGANGER

how you gonna teach separation of church and state if ya can't talk about religion

it's like a paradox or something d0pps. teach me.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 15 @ 3:53 PM ET
how you gonna teach separation of church and state if ya can't talk about religion

it's like a paradox or something d0pps. teach me.

- Shutdown


teaching the concept of the separation of Church and State, is not the same as holding religious classes or services and allowing prayer rooms in public funded schools.

See I just talked about it, and did not teach anything religious .......... pretty simple.


http://news.nationalpost....ws-fire-at-toronto-school





A Toronto school that allows Muslim students to conduct prayer sessions during class hours on school property is pushing up against the boundaries set by the courts more than 20 years ago to keep religious instruction out of public classrooms.

“I think this looks like a school practicing religion,” said Ed Morgan, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Toronto. “The school may be conveying a message that they endorse religion and that’s what the school is not allowed to do.”

In the 1980s, Canadian courts decided that the Lord’s Prayer should not be said in public schools because it was a form of religious indoctrination and at the same time stigmatized and ridiculed those children who had to seek an opt-out clause to be excused from saying the Christian prayer.
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“This [current case] is not imposition or indoctrination, but it’s a fine line,” said Prof. Morgan. “Suppose you’re one of the kids who is left out? Is there that much difference than the kids who had to get up anD leave during mandatory prayer?”

Each Friday between November and March, the Valley Park Middle School, which is 80% to 90% Muslim, allows an imam to come in and conduct a 30-minute prayer session in the cafeteria for 400 students. Friday afternoon prayer is considered one of the most important of the religious week, akin to Sunday mass for Catholics.

The imam was selected by the parents and the larger Muslim community and the school contributes no money to the prayer session. The parents, not school officials, supervise the service.

It is the only school in the Toronto District School Board that has such a practice.

Ron Banerjee, of Canadian Hindu Advocacy, said he received complaints from Hindu parents who were concerned about the potential for inflammatory preaching against their faith — though there has been no evidence that has occurred.

But there is still a larger problem that everyone should be concerned about, he added.

“No group should be getting this privilege because it sets a bad precedent for other groups who may come along and want the same right. This is fragmentation and Balkanization. This no way to run a public educational system.”

There is a mosque down the street that the students are free to go to but having the service on campus is more efficient, said Shari Schwartz-Maltz, communications manager for the school board.

“The parents were concerned on Fridays that the kids were leaving to go to the mosque but frankly taking their time to get there and get back. There were concerns about safety even thought their parents allowed it and there was a concern about the loss of instructional time.”

To date, the school has received no complaints.

She also cited the Ontario human rights code, which mandates accommodation of religious practice on a case-by-case basis.

The issue of separation of church and state is confusing to many Canadians because of our exposure to American media, said Faye Sonier, a lawyer with the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada. The principle in Canada is supposed to be one of co-operation and accommodation, she added.

“Canada does not, nor has it ever, had a constitutional recognition of the ‘separation of church and state’,” she said.

“School boards have an obligation to provide a welcoming environment for all students, including those who hold religious beliefs, and they should seek to reasonably accommodate the beliefs of their students.

“If the board is accommodating the religious beliefs of these students, I should hope that they will assure the religious freedoms of other students as well. For example, in many schools across the country, Christian students have been wrongly denied the ability to hold Bible studies over lunch or recess, and most recently, parents seeking to exempt their children from classes inconsistent with their faith have been challenged. We would hope that the accommodation shown to this group would be extended to Christian students as well.”
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
simple alright
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:25 PM ET
watching grown men fight over an IronPig homerun ball


i elbowed some (frank)er in the throat
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 17 @ 10:32 PM ET
why they are killing black police officers

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 9:41 AM ET
why they are killing black police officers

- watsonnostaw


what about other colours of police officers, don't they count as well?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 18 @ 9:47 AM ET
so racist
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 9:50 AM ET
so racist
- kicksave856


Yes I agree, he should have included all police officers .......... not just one race of officers.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
Yes I agree, he should have included all police officers .......... not just one race of officers.
- D0PPELGANGER

GTB
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 9:57 AM ET
GTB
- kicksave856


SVP
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
SVP
- D0PPELGANGER

eieio
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:03 AM ET
teaching the concept of the separation of Church and State, is not the same as holding religious classes or services and allowing prayer rooms in public funded schools.

See I just talked about it, and did not teach anything religious .......... pretty simple.


http://news.nationalpost....ws-fire-at-toronto-school





A Toronto school that allows Muslim students to conduct prayer sessions during class hours on school property is pushing up against the boundaries set by the courts more than 20 years ago to keep religious instruction out of public classrooms.

“I think this looks like a school practicing religion,” said Ed Morgan, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Toronto. “The school may be conveying a message that they endorse religion and that’s what the school is not allowed to do.”

In the 1980s, Canadian courts decided that the Lord’s Prayer should not be said in public schools because it was a form of religious indoctrination and at the same time stigmatized and ridiculed those children who had to seek an opt-out clause to be excused from saying the Christian prayer.
Related



“This

- D0PPELGANGER[current case] is not imposition or indoctrination, but it’s a fine line,” said Prof. Morgan. “Suppose you’re one of the kids who is left out? Is there that much difference than the kids who had to get up anD leave during mandatory prayer?”

Each Friday between November and March, the Valley Park Middle School, which is 80% to 90% Muslim, allows an imam to come in and conduct a 30-minute prayer session in the cafeteria for 400 students. Friday afternoon prayer is considered one of the most important of the religious week, akin to Sunday mass for Catholics.

The imam was selected by the parents and the larger Muslim community and the school contributes no money to the prayer session. The parents, not school officials, supervise the service.

It is the only school in the Toronto District School Board that has such a practice.

Ron Banerjee, of Canadian Hindu Advocacy, said he received complaints from Hindu parents who were concerned about the potential for inflammatory preaching against their faith — though there has been no evidence that has occurred.

But there is still a larger problem that everyone should be concerned about, he added.

“No group should be getting this privilege because it sets a bad precedent for other groups who may come along and want the same right. This is fragmentation and Balkanization. This no way to run a public educational system.”

There is a mosque down the street that the students are free to go to but having the service on campus is more efficient, said Shari Schwartz-Maltz, communications manager for the school board.

“The parents were concerned on Fridays that the kids were leaving to go to the mosque but frankly taking their time to get there and get back. There were concerns about safety even thought their parents allowed it and there was a concern about the loss of instructional time.”

To date, the school has received no complaints.

She also cited the Ontario human rights code, which mandates accommodation of religious practice on a case-by-case basis.

The issue of separation of church and state is confusing to many Canadians because of our exposure to American media, said Faye Sonier, a lawyer with the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada. The principle in Canada is supposed to be one of co-operation and accommodation, she added.

“Canada does not, nor has it ever, had a constitutional recognition of the ‘separation of church and state’,” she said.

“School boards have an obligation to provide a welcoming environment for all students, including those who hold religious beliefs, and they should seek to reasonably accommodate the beliefs of their students.

“If the board is accommodating the religious beliefs of these students, I should hope that they will assure the religious freedoms of other students as well. For example, in many schools across the country, Christian students have been wrongly denied the ability to hold Bible studies over lunch or recess, and most recently, parents seeking to exempt their children from classes inconsistent with their faith have been challenged. We would hope that the accommodation shown to this group would be extended to Christian students as well.”

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 18 @ 10:03 AM ET
glucker, hello
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