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Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
Peter Tessier: More Moves for the Jets? Oilers or Bolts? After getting out early and moving Andrew Ladd is there anything left for Winnipeg today?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 9:44 AM ET
There is absolutely no scenario where drouin is better defensively than rnh at this point. (Or potentially ever). So much context and caveats needed with that contention


Case in point of the massive flaws advanced stats bring to the table
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Feb 29 @ 9:49 AM ET
There is absolutely no scenario where drouin is better defensively than rnh at this point. (Or potentially ever). So much context and caveats needed with that contention


Case in point of the massive flaws advanced stats bring to the table

- HB77


Drouin is so overrated...
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Feb 29 @ 9:51 AM ET
RNH is miles ahead of Drouin on both sides of the puck O and D...that said, it would be nice to see Drouin play a full season and see what is there.

Today Drouin is worth a 2 x 2nd round picks at best, based on his history...problem is Yzerman has to trade for his potential.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 9:52 AM ET
Drouin is so overrated...
- ReveenV2

Huge potential for offence, Pretty electric. but he hasn't done much as a pro.
At this point, yakupov is even more proven.


Either way, I probably wouldn't even argue that much if someone tried to sell drouins offensive potential over nuges. A case could be made I guess.
But defensively ? No chance.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 9:54 AM ET
RNH is miles ahead of Drouin on both sides of the puck O and D...that said, it would be nice to see Drouin play a full season and see what is there.

Today Drouin is worth a 2 x 2nd round picks at best, based on his history...problem is Yzerman has to trade for his potential.

- jjonah

Well said, all of it


I certainly won't argue that drouin is the cheaper option and might even be more worth the risk for the jets.

But beyond that....

ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Feb 29 @ 10:02 AM ET
Huge potential for offence, Pretty electric. but he hasn't done much as a pro.
At this point, yakupov is even more proven.


Either way, I probably wouldn't even argue that much if someone tried to sell drouins offensive potential over nuges. A case could be made I guess.
But defensively ? No chance.

- HB77


key word is potential.... if he can't produce on the Lightning playing sheltered minutes that's very telling.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 29 @ 10:08 AM ET
Trouba for RNH straight up is a fair hockey deal.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Feb 29 @ 10:09 AM ET
The rumour mill speculates that the Jets may have interest in Nail Yakupov the LW from Edmonton who has never lived up to the hype as a first overall draft pick.


FYI, Yakupov is actually a RW while he has played LW at times, if you want him to be successful you play him on the right side.
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 29 @ 10:10 AM ET
Trouba for RNH straight up is a fair hockey deal.
- newmy


I agree. I'm not sure it would happen but that would make some one else on the Jets with a very good deal expendable.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Feb 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
Yak and Fayne for Trouba
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Feb 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
Maybe Yak, Fayne and your 1st for Trouba and Chic's first
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
Maybe Yak, Fayne and your 1st for Trouba and Chic's first
- jjonah


I'd consider this

Essentially top 3 and yaks + a 3.5 dump for 2 years

Trouba and bottom 5 first rounder


Interesting deal actually. Pretty Big price to pay, but that salary dump is enticing
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
If Trouba is going to be traded I hope it is only considered for RNH or if the Oil win the lottery and then its Mathews. Absolutely no way I'm trading Trouba in a deal where the main piece coming back is Drouin or Yak!!

One trade I'd like today is Perrault and our later first rounder (Chicago's first) to Anaheim for one of their young D.
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
I'd consider this

Essentially top 3 and yaks + a 3.5 dump for 2 years

Trouba and bottom 5 first rounder


Interesting deal actually. Pretty Big price to pay, but that salary dump is enticing

- HB77


Jets get hosed there. No way. Do that draft over and Trouba might be in the top 3 now.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 29 @ 10:58 AM ET
Totally agree. If the Oilers wouldn't jump all over Trouba for RNH, then they are clued out.

A young, top-pairing dman who's only getting better for a player they can do without.
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Feb 29 @ 10:59 AM ET
If Trouba is going to be traded I hope it is only considered for RNH or if the Oil win the lottery and then its Mathews. Absolutely no way I'm trading Trouba in a deal where the main piece coming back is Drouin or Yak!!

One trade I'd like today is Perrault and our later first rounder (Chicago's first) to Anaheim for one of their young D.

- Ross77

Be prepared to add if it's RNH or the 1st overall pick
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
Totally agree. If the Oilers wouldn't jump all over Trouba for RNH, then they are clued out.

A young, top-pairing dman who's only getting better for a player they can do without.

- newmy

Everyone's agreed
Who are you trying to convince here?

Stop relentlessly banging your head against your 'hate the oilers' wall. You can't afford to lose anymore brain cells.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 11:09 AM ET
Jets get hosed there. No way. Do that draft over and Trouba might be in the top 3 now.
- Peter.Tessier

Matthews and yaks

Trouba and say no higher than 25th.


But You need to eat salary for 2 seasons on a 6-7 defender


I don't think it's that egregious by any stretch. Maybe I guess
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 29 @ 11:13 AM ET
Be prepared to add if it's RNH or the 1st overall pick
- ReveenV2


add what or how much? because honestly I wouldn't be interested then. If your re-doing trouba's draft he may very well go first overall so why do you figure we are adding for RNH? As for Mathews, ya ok, maybe I'm adding our late first rounder or our 2nd rounder but no way I'm trading Trouba and our first ( which might be top 5 ) to move up to number one.

honest question, if RNH and trouba are both made available to all teams, who do you think gets more attention? I say trouba in a heartbeat!!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
add what or how much? because honestly I wouldn't be interested then. If your re-doing trouba's draft he may very well go first overall so why do you figure we are adding for RNH? As for Mathews, ya ok, maybe I'm adding our late first rounder or our 2nd rounder but no way I'm trading Trouba and our first ( which might be top 5 ) to move up to number one.

honest question, if RNH and trouba are both made available to all teams, who do you think gets more attention? I say trouba in a heartbeat!!

- Ross77

Solid post

Tough to to argue


I'd push for an add. But nothing too significant

Nuge and a 3rd

Trouba - petan
ReveenV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 12.13.2015

Feb 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
Solid post

Tough to to argue


I'd push for an add. But nothing too significant

Nuge and a 3rd

Trouba - petan

- HB77



Now that's a trade that I would do
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Solid post

Tough to to argue


I'd push for an add. But nothing too significant

Nuge and a 3rd

Trouba - petan

- HB77



That's a trade the Oilers of course would do, but that's why it would never happen.
EastCoastOiler
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Solid post

Tough to to argue


I'd push for an add. But nothing too significant

Nuge and a 3rd

Trouba - petan

- HB77


The big question is would he resign and what is he really looking for in terms of $$$

If we would be able to sign him to a Klefbom equivalent type contract I think I would be ok with not having to add anything with Nuge. We just really need to improve our Dcore
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 29 @ 11:32 AM ET
The big question is would he resign and what is he really looking for in terms of $$$

If we would be able to sign him to a Klefbom equivalent type contract I think I would be ok with not having to add anything with Nuge. We just really need to improve our Dcore

- EastCoastOiler

I'd assume you sort that out before u pull the trigger

I'd be cool with a semi bridge.
A few more bucks- but a little extra term.
4.5-5/ 3 or 4 years


Pretty hesitant if in fact he wants that 6 for long term
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