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Bill Meltzer
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Jan 3 @ 4:16 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/4/20 vs. ARI
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:42 PM ET

Also, the Yotes will be having a Video tribute for Bryzgalov who will be in the building tonight. Fitting with Philly in town.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 3 @ 6:17 PM ET
If true hilarious double win for him.

Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 3 @ 6:56 PM ET
If they fall flat again I would try

49. 14. 11.
21. 28. 93.
25. 13. 18.
12. 24. 62.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 4 @ 2:28 AM ET
hmm hmm i wonder what's going to happen
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 4 @ 8:58 AM ET
MJL, I would just like to say that during this road trip, Voracek, Coots, and Giroux have all been scoring at higher rates than the rest of the season but the team is still losing

You said once the stars start scoring it will make it easier to win games. It seems that it is a bit more complicated than that
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 4 @ 9:14 AM ET
Should be a snooze fest tonight as the Yotes basically play Devils style hockey. Key will be to get the first goal and hold onto a lead. Arizona is much better at playing with a lead than they are at chasing the game.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 4 @ 9:16 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/4/20 vs. ARI
- bmeltzer


Cam Talbot?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 4 @ 9:16 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/4/20 vs. ARI
- bmeltzer


Cam Talbot?
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 9:23 AM ET
MJL, I would just like to say that during this road trip, Voracek, Coots, and Giroux have all been scoring at higher rates than the rest of the season but the team is still losing

You said once the stars start scoring it will make it easier to win games. It seems that it is a bit more complicated than that

- bulet13

Serious question. Is Shayne Gostisbehere and James van Riemsdyk stars?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 4 @ 9:25 AM ET
Serious question. Is Shayne Gostisbehere and James van Riemsdyk stars?
- SuperSchennBros


Not anymore
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 4 @ 9:33 AM ET
Not Cam Talbot the prospect! No please!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 4 @ 9:35 AM ET
Serious question. Is Shayne Gostisbehere and James van Riemsdyk stars?
- SuperSchennBros

Yes, they are technically made of star dust.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 11.16.2012

Jan 4 @ 9:46 AM ET
I know losing Lindblom changes things. It seems like we were winning more when we were spreading our top forwards over 3/4 lines rather than stacking two. Spreading out the minutes seems like something we'd benefit from during a road trip like this too. We're losing to beatable teams lately.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 9:47 AM ET
MJL, I would just like to say that during this road trip, Voracek, Coots, and Giroux have all been scoring at higher rates than the rest of the season but the team is still losing

You said once the stars start scoring it will make it easier to win games. It seems that it is a bit more complicated than that

- bulet13


So you don't think that Voracek, Couturier who has been scoring at a solid rate for a while now and Giroux all scoring better does not help the team?
Now if I had said that their lack of scoring is the only issue with the team, maybe you'd have a point here.

I would like to think that you know enough about hockey to realize that when a team gives up 4 goals in the first period, isn't skating well and is turning over the puck, blowing coverages, giving up PP goals and shorthanded goals against. That's a lot for any one player to overcome.

My statement was about looking at the season as a whole, not just a 4 game stretch. I guess there's no analytic website or spreadsheet for you to look at here to figure this out.
countreeman28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.10.2007

Jan 4 @ 9:54 AM ET
Let's go, Flyers!

jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.30.2015

Jan 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
I think the team really misses Lindblom. Other than Coots he was the Flyers most consistent 2 way player. When he went down, he was the leading goal scorer on the team. Was on the Coots PP UNIT. He and Coots were the first 2 on the PK. Its no coincidence the the teams whoas started when Oskar went down. He was far more valuable than we may have realized.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
I think the team really misses Lindblom. Other than Coots he was the Flyers most consistent 2 way player. When he went down, he was the leading goal scorer on the team. Was on the Coots PP UNIT. He and Coots were the first 2 on the PK. Its no coincidence the the teams whoas started when Oskar went down. He was far more valuable than we may have realized.
- jaws1955


No question. Strong two way player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
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Jan 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
I think the team really misses Lindblom. Other than Coots he was the Flyers most consistent 2 way player. When he went down, he was the leading goal scorer on the team. Was on the Coots PP UNIT. He and Coots were the first 2 on the PK. Its no coincidence the the teams whoas started when Oskar went down. He was far more valuable than we may have realized.
- jaws1955

Yup
They have the depth to overcome the loss of Patrick, but not both him and Lindblom.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
So you don't think that Voracek, Couturier who has been scoring at a solid rate for a while now and Giroux all scoring better does not help the team?
Now if I had said that their lack of scoring is the only issue with the team, maybe you'd have a point here.

I would like to think that you know enough about hockey to realize that when a team gives up 4 goals in the first period, isn't skating well and is turning over the puck, blowing coverages, giving up PP goals and shorthanded goals against. That's a lot for any one player to overcome.

My statement was about looking at the season as a whole, not just a 4 game stretch. I guess there's no analytic website or spreadsheet for you to look at here to figure this out.

- MJL



You posted g s stats a couple days ago and said that was a main issue with the team. Calling g out again. Pretty much saying he needs to contribute on the score sheet.


I think that’s what he was referring to.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
Yup
They have the depth to overcome the loss of Patrick, but not both him and Lindblom.

- BiggE


Shocking that in a 31 team league it's the Flyers who have two of their top young prospects whose careers might be over.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:34 AM ET
Shocking that in a 31 team league it's the Flyers who have two of their top young prospects whose careers might be over.
- PLindbergh31

Are you actually blaming the Flyers for Lindblom coming down with cancer???

This is beyond asinine, even for you.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:38 AM ET
Are you actually blaming the Flyers for Lindblom coming down with cancer???

This is beyond asinine, even for you.

- BiggE


Not blaming anyone, It's more of the black cloud BS that hovers over this franchise.

What was your take when Bobby Clarke said it's not our fault Roger got cancer. Referring to coach Roger Nielson. Has a human being ever said anything dumber or insensitive?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 11:39 AM ET
You posted g s stats a couple days ago and said that was a main issue with the team. Calling g out again. Pretty much saying he needs to contribute on the score sheet.


I think that’s what he was referring to.

- Peter Richards


Thanks for explaining that. LOL
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jan 4 @ 11:49 AM ET
Frost had bad game in LV w penalties of aggression. I guess he was pissed to be sent down after seeing his skill set vs teammates. Funny, the game before he was sent down, coach gave his slot in shootout, i assume as reward for game performance. I know he is not a 4th line center, and he can use the significant ice time in the A but i understand his frustration as well. He needs to thicken and strengthen so better on the wall and puck. I see a 1/2C player here in a couple years.
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