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Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

May 6 @ 9:50 AM ET
It’s fine until it isn’t. You need secondary scoring in the playoffs, 1 point through 5 games from 3 players isn’t going to cut it.
- nyrangers9479


You are trying to manufacture problems.
We have scored 19 and allowed 10 through 5 games. 10 different players have scored. WTF would make you happy? I just don't get it.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 6 @ 9:51 AM ET
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

May 6 @ 9:53 AM ET
It’s fine until it isn’t. You need secondary scoring in the playoffs, 1 point through 5 games from 3 players isn’t going to cut it.
- nyrangers9479


I guess its important to have something to whine about.
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

May 6 @ 9:56 AM ET




That's a win.

- blacksheep1


This exactly what wrong with these charts. The Rangers carried play in the first two periods. Carolina had like 15 shots until the scramble in the last 3 1/2 minutes when they had the goalie pulled.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 6 @ 10:03 AM ET
This exactly what wrong with these charts. The Rangers carried play in the first two periods. Carolina had like 15 shots until the scramble in the last 3 1/2 minutes when they had the goalie pulled.
- tbreinold



I was wondering what the chart was going to look like.

I think that this skews towards Carolina due to the disparity in PP chances. What I am skeptical about regarding that figure is I am starting to think it simply looks at chances on a surface level and doesn't have a way to factor in the quality of the units of each team.

Obviously the Rangers put on a special teams clinic. But aside from the third that game was firmly in their grasp.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 6 @ 10:07 AM ET
I guess its important to have something to whine about.
- tbreinold

Whine about? Saying we need our 3rd line AT SOME POINT to add scoring is whining or speaking facts? Never said they played bad, just said at some point they’re going to have to add secondary scoring.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
I was wondering what the chart was going to look like.

I think that this skews towards Carolina due to the disparity in PP chances. What I am skeptical about regarding that figure is I am starting to think it simply looks at chances on a surface level and doesn't have a way to factor in the quality of the units of each team.

Obviously the Rangers put on a special teams clinic. But aside from the third that game was firmly in their grasp.

- JRR1285

The 3rd period really weighs heavily in the NST. That's just raw numbers. If you (rhetorical, I know you don't rally care) disagree, then you didn't watch the Rangers turtle trying to hold on. But a win is a win in the playoffs, and that's all that matters.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
You are trying to manufacture problems.
We have scored 19 and allowed 10 through 5 games. 10 different players have scored. WTF would make you happy? I just don't get it.

- Tonybere

Wtf are you talking about? You become dumber and dumber as time goes on. Defending Tom and his charts has turned u into a real bozo
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
Was completely comfortable with that game up until about 10 minutes to go. Started to pucker a little
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 6 @ 10:10 AM ET
I was wondering what the chart was going to look like.

I think that this skews towards Carolina due to the disparity in PP chances. What I am skeptical about regarding that figure is I am starting to think it simply looks at chances on a surface level and doesn't have a way to factor in the quality of the units of each team.

Obviously the Rangers put on a special teams clinic. But aside from the third that game was firmly in their grasp.

- JRR1285


This was the type of game if they lost they’d be in big big trouble because they had it in the bag all game. Would’ve been like the isles loss in game 2

Last time they started 5-0 they won the cup. Good juju still going strong
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 10:10 AM ET
I see things havent changed. People fighting over a win
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 6 @ 10:12 AM ET
Wtf are you talking about? You become dumber and dumber as time goes on. Defending Tom and his charts has turned u into a real bozo
- nyrangers9479

I don't think I was/am invovled with this?

But glad to know I still run your head space.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 6 @ 10:13 AM ET
What an awesome game. Great start to the series. Mika has been incredible through 5 games.

Reffing was terrible again on both sides but glad our PP and PK were up to the task
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 6 @ 10:16 AM ET




That's a win.

- blacksheep1

I still don't fully understand the charts but the top one looks pretty good to me, is it not? Obviously not for Fox and Lindgren but a lot more people in the "positive" side of the chart than typical games.

The deserve to win one likely comes from Carolina having 5 PPs to our 2, and our 2 PPs only lasting a combined 23 seconds or so. Not a lot of time to generate chances when you're that efficient. Playing with the lead also tends to draw some desperation from the opponent which we clearly saw in the 3rd. Not a perfect game by any means but I thought the rangers played really well vs a very good oppenent
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
I see things havent changed. People fighting over a win
- mdw7413

We can’t get out of our own way in here lol
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 6 @ 10:19 AM ET
We can’t get out of our own way in here lol
- Slimtj100


you see this? I never really liked the way Richter was standing in this pic


mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
I still don't fully understand the charts but the top one looks pretty good to me, is it not? Obviously not for Fox and Lindgren but a lot more people in the "positive" side of the chart than typical games.

The deserve to win one likely comes from Carolina having 5 PPs to our 2, and our 2 PPs only lasting a combined 23 seconds or so. Not a lot of time to generate chances when you're that efficient. Playing with the lead also tends to draw some desperation from the opponent which we clearly saw in the 3rd. Not a perfect game by any means but I thought the rangers played really well vs a very good oppenent

- SkjeiStadium


I agree with JRR, I think its skewed cause the Rangers went into sitting back mode to protect the lead in the 3rd, and also Carolina played way more desperate in the 3rd. Like I said, I thought the Rangers were in complete control of that game up until about 1/2 way through the 3rd.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
I don't think I was/am invovled with this?

But glad to know I still run your head space.

- blacksheep1

Once again posting a chart that says we should’ve lost, but if u watched the game would’ve thought the complete opposite. Ever since you’ve been back to being a troll ur buddy Tony has been a clown himself
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
you see this? I never really liked the way Richter was standing in this pic



- jimbro83


Probably checking out a topless fan
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
Once again posting a chart that says we should’ve lost, but if u watched the game would’ve thought the complete opposite. Ever since you’ve been back to being a troll ur buddy Tony has been a clown himself
- nyrangers9479

Tony's one of the most level headed people on this board. Everyone you have a mild disagreement with isn't a clown
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
Probably checking out a topless fan
- mdw7413

Was the fan TJ?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
I've been about a billion Ranger wins where Shesterkin had a tougher day then he had yesterday
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
Sorry for bringing it up but we’re 5-0 in the playoffs 😆
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
I still don't fully understand the charts but the top one looks pretty good to me, is it not? Obviously not for Fox and Lindgren but a lot more people in the "positive" side of the chart than typical games.

The deserve to win one likely comes from Carolina having 5 PPs to our 2, and our 2 PPs only lasting a combined 23 seconds or so. Not a lot of time to generate chances when you're that efficient. Playing with the lead also tends to draw some desperation from the opponent which we clearly saw in the 3rd. Not a perfect game by any means but I thought the rangers played really well vs a very good oppenent

- SkjeiStadium


Teams play different based on game situations. The Rangers allowed 3 shot attempts after "turtling" and allowing the 3rd goal. One was missed to the far side that was close but not that close by Svechnikov. A shot by Svechnikov was then gloved my Shesty even though it was probably headed high and wide. That was at the one minute mark. The last attempt was a weak wrist shot that was sticked to the corner by Igor.


SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
Teams play different based on game situations. The Rangers allowed 3 shot attempts after "turtling" and allowing the 3rd goal. One was missed to the far side that was close but not that close by Svechnikov. A shot by Svechnikov was then gloved my Shesty even though it was probably headed high and wide. That was at the one minute mark. The last attempt was a weak wrist shot that was sticked to the corner by Igor.
- climbdenali12

Yep that was my point. I thought the rangers played well and based on game situations (having the lead and lop-sided PP time) led to some things that are likely exacerbated on the charts. Doesn't make the charts useless but is important context.

They held the Canes to 15 SOG with 7 minutes left, and up until the end the Canes were in danger of not reaching their season-low of 19 SOG.
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