Good points, although I'll say money is not always the deciding factor in every free agent signing. I'd say the biggest factor is that you have to be a desirable location first and foremost. Look at Toronto or Montreal. They are HUGE market teams, bigger than anything in the US, and they have trouble attracting huge free agents. Why? It's certainly not money...they have tons of it. It's because their teams are not always guaranteed to be good.

When you say the NYR, Phillys, Pitts, Detroits, etc., you are not just saying "well, they have a lot of money, they always get the big signings." It's a little more complex than that. They have money because they are good teams, and being a good team in a desirable location means more to most players than that. Otherwise, people would be flocking to Toronto or the Habs as well.

Nashville is in a tough spot right now because they were/are just starting to be one of those places, but when Suter left, that was a big blow.
- feelingkettle

I didn't mean only money, but as you eluded to, money and good players. Being an organization that's constantly in the post season mix doesn't hurt either. ie. Philly, Detroit, NY, Pittsburgh etc.. The bigger market teams will most likely always have the full compliment of all 3. Where the Nashvilles and Minne's of the league will have "windows of opportunity" as well as players leaving for the bigger better markets.

Forbes is light years from factual. Good grief !!!!!!!!!

Btw, why no response to my pointing out your W. Brett Wilson / Colin Wilson tweet gaffe?
- blueline

Tweet what?

What are you talking about?

Forbes is a joke.

http://www.examiner.com/a...t-ignore-the-magical-data

and the follow up

http://www.examiner.com/a...comment-on-forbes-article
- Predaceous

ok so who is telling the truth?

dont buy into the hype...when was the last time you met an honest owner?
- Philly1980

i cant believe i give them ebita and an income statement

http://mobilwi.typepad.co...87970b017743797ca9970d-pi

and their answer is - tweets -

you asked for the link.

hes another

http://www.tennessean.com...-ice-success-public-money


are they a joke as well?
- acmilano3

Actually yes. There's a very long history of guys from the Tennessean such as Rau, Cass and Schrade who have gone out of their way to misrepresent the facts about the Predators and their finances.

I would go to the Nashville City Paper or the Nashville Examiner if I want reliable information on the Preds.

He's too busy "wowing" everyone with his business acumen.
- MadCap2008

does not require much thought to read a bloody balance sheet or income statement.

THEY MAY SIGN HIM. Just saying according to their books it does not make sense.

Tweet what?

What are you talking about?
- acmilano3

I believe that you interpreted a tweet from the owner as being a tweet from a player.

does not require much thought to read a bloody balance sheet or income statement.

THEY MAY SIGN HIM. Just saying according to their books it does not make sense.
- acmilano3

So this covers you regardless of the outcome.

i cant believe i give them ebita and an income statement

http://mobilwi.typepad.co...87970b017743797ca9970d-pi

and their answer is - tweets -
- acmilano3

First of all, it's EBITDA not EBITA. Second, your income statement is a year out of date. Third, who cares? If you really think they're running this team solely on hockey revenues you're sorely mistaken.

Oh, and btw:

Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.

so the preds are only interested in Weber? No interest in improving their team otherwise.

why not match on day one and move onto Doan or their restricted fas?
- acmilano3

Don't know, just one possibility if they ARE actually planning to match. Make Philly wait it out and possibly lose out on other FA's as a bit of an FU for forcing their hand.

Preds just inked Colin Wilson to 3 years at $2m per.

That... is... a... steal!
- iamageek

I like it.

First of all, it's EBITDA not EBITA. Second, your income statement is a year out of date. Third, who cares? If you really think they're running this team solely on hockey revenues you're sorely mistaken.

Oh, and btw:

Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.
- Predaceous

Never thought that it could be just to make the Flyers up the offer?
Even if it is true, enjoy a captain that doesnt want to even be there

Preds just inked Colin Wilson to 3 years at $2m per.

That... is... a... steal!
- iamageek

That's a bargain, especially if he lives up to his potential.

First of all, it's EBITDA not EBITA. Second, your income statement is a year out of date. Third, who cares? If you really think they're running this team solely on hockey revenues you're sorely mistaken.

Oh, and btw:

Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.
- Predaceous

from a guy with 156 followers...i have more followers than that

First of all, it's EBITDA not EBITA. Second, your income statement is a year out of date. Third, who cares? If you really think they're running this team solely on hockey revenues you're sorely mistaken.

Oh, and btw:

Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.
- Predaceous

Btw, @Fang_Faction is probably as unreliable as Hockeyy Insiderr

from a guy with 156 followers...i have more followers than that
- Philly1980

First of all, it's EBITDA not EBITA. Second, your income statement is a year out of date. Third, who cares? If you really think they're running this team solely on hockey revenues you're sorely mistaken.

Oh, and btw:

Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.
- Predaceous

income statements are available at year end. you got me on the typo. you might want to spend more time on the numbers of that doc.

when did i say they would not match? maybe they will. were we arguing that.

you asked for the link.

hes another

http://www.tennessean.com...-ice-success-public-money


are they a joke as well?
- acmilano3

The Fish Wrap?

Just another typical sensationalist yellow journalism undertaking striving for one thing only - figuring out how to stay afloat under the guise of just trying to "Save the Folks". You should look at their finances!

Lol.

And Forbes? Doctor office wait-room fodder of the same ilk for patients trying to figure out how to invest their Social Security checks. Oh yeah, and Forbes loves to blare out meaningless pulp scare stories.

All I know is that the fans on the Nashville blogs are a peach compared to many of the others. Most seem pretty down to earth considering the poop they've been dragged through so far this off season... I commend their behavior for the most part. At the very least they can be reasoned with, just go back and look at some of the NJ blogs, those people were just flat out D-Bags when it came to Parise discussions.

Never thought that it could be just to make the Flyers up the offer?
Even if it is true, enjoy a captain that doesnt want to even be there
- Richieattack18

Who is Philly's current captain ? I know that their prior captain was lucky enough to escape and was able to hoist the Cup in his first year after exiting.

Who is Philly's current captain ? I know that their prior captain was lucky enough to escape and was able to hoist the Cup in his first year after exiting.
- MadCap2008

from a guy with 156 followers...i have more followers than that
- Philly1980

That's actually based all on the Shannon report, so nothing new.

Who is Philly's current captain ? I know that their prior captain was lucky enough to escape and was able to hoist the Cup in his first year after exiting.
- MadCap2008

Actually its pronger.

Who is Philly's current captain ? I know that their prior captain was lucky enough to escape and was able to hoist the Cup in his first year after exiting.
- MadCap2008

he has a concussion. its the reason why we are all talking today.

glad i could help a caps fan.

Tweet what?

What are you talking about?
- acmilano3

It's just two pages back! Have you already forgotten what you wrote? Geeeez man.

Here is your post (emphasis added):

Sarcasm. Who gives a rats patutt what a players tweets. I would be impressed if someone provided hard numbers, quantify deep pockets and provide a modicum of fiscal feedback outside of a Colin Wilson tweet.


Did anyone ask Colin why he is not signed if their pockets are that deep?
- acmilano3

And here was my reply:



The tweets are from W. Brett Wilson, one of our owners. A Canadian billionaire. NOT Colin Wilson.

Lol.