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TheCouv
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Jul 26 @ 6:31 PM ET
And what did Carolina give up to get him? Oh yeah, nothing.
- JIrwin

I believe they gave up 7 million in cap space................
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
Nobody in the league can do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-qMU9cjKs

Oh, and who's that D that got owned?

- blondinwrx


meet tyler ennis.

http://youtu.be/6Xxp-8PBo3I
BackSlider
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man, CO
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
I believe they gave up 7 million in cap space................
- TheCouv



Actually I have great news. I just saved......... I mean... Kevin Freiheit reports that the deal is actually 7 years for $1 million. That's thrifty shopping! Makes much more sense than what's been reported. $7 million for a guy who shows up occasionally? Surrrrreeeee

PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
They don't need him, for leadership. They have 2 Staal's and Skinner for that. All he has to do is produce points. This move probably solidifies Carolina's place in the playoffs. How much in gate revenue do you think that's worth? 3 playoff games, would pretty much pay for his contract. Then there is advertising revenue, to make money off of. Who knows, maybe they win a round. Any team that has two Staal's, Skinner and Cam Ward, has a chance at being a good darkhorse team, once they hit the playoffs. I wouldn't cackle too hard at that, Cloutier, it's a good move.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
Semin: Gets points; has a terrible attitude and doesn't care. Will help the Hurricanes roughly the same amount as he'll hurt them.

Hemsky: Injured frequently, but has a good attitude and does care. Would help a team more than hurt it if he could stay healthy.

Just thought I'd provide a summary of my blog since you obviously didn't read it.

- Maxbone


Saying Hemsky could help a team if he stay's healthy is like saying Semin could help a team if he changes his attitude.

Either way, Semin is more skilled than Hemsky and is a pure sniper. On a one year deal this contract is fine. Also if the Hurricanes go bust this season they will be able to turn him into some combination of draft picks and prospects as a rental.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:52 PM ET
I disagree!
prodigy
New York Rangers
Location: I fell down the stairs and my
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 26 @ 6:59 PM ET
Enigmatic UFA forward Ales Semin signed a one-year, $7mil contract today with the Carolina Hurricanes. Lame. What a terrible signing.


Hey Richard...you need to do some research before you blog.

Car was well below the cap floor, so they needed to find a way(s) to get up there. Spending 2-3 mil over what Semin is worth is a ZERO risk way not only gettting a talented player, but also getting closer to the cap floor.

Semin wanted a multi year deal which would have been less than 7 mil, probably 5-5.5 if it was for 2-3 years. Car can now give him a chance to earn that multi year deal....if he doesnt, they just dont re-sign him.

Reading mindless blogs like this shows why most bloggers are lame at best.
edmhatescal
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NY
Joined: 11.08.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:00 PM ET
Comparing Hemsky and Semin's talent levels is a bit of a stretch. Semin lazy, Hemsky always hurt... I'll take lazy.

Besides, at least Semin will drop the mitts and duke it out once in a while, well... slap it out?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...er_embedded&v=VDRCpN4OMpM

- scoot174

That's absolutely ridiculous. How can you build a winning team with lazy players? You can't even run a business with lazy workers. That's stupid. Affects the culture of the team and attitude of everyone on board. As long as you show up to every game you play, there's nothing wrong with the player in my opinion. Hemsky is not made of glass, he's one of the hardest working players in the NHL, takes a beating more than most players. Watch an oilers game, targeted more than other players. Comparable to Jaromir Jagr in that respect.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:01 PM ET
LOL at TSN's "Who's Better?" poll!
atc
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:12 PM ET
It's a one year deal and Carolina didn't have to give up anything. I see no problems.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
It's a no risk signing. If he shows up then they can sign him long term. If not, than its one year, no big deal, and like you said, they can trade him at the deadline, albeit an expensive way to get something back. I think its a good move along witht he Staal trade. Gives him two options of great centers to find chemistry with,
blondinwrx
Washington Capitals
Location: ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.19.2009

Jul 26 @ 7:31 PM ET
meet tyler ennis.

http://youtu.be/6Xxp-8PBo3I

- qcstudios


Nice play, but no. Semin toe drags around Weber's reaching stick. Ennis shoots over a stick, the toe drag wasn't used to dodge a reaching stick.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:43 PM ET
Its a one year deal. Carolina didnt risk the future on Semin. Semin puts up points and stays healthy. He def has more value than Hemsky. If Hemmer were to put up a few 70game seasons things would def be diff.

Not to mention Carolina isnt a market most players just want to sign in. Its a market where you have to overpay to sign people

- poisondhearts37

and Hemsky is only 2 and 2 million less per yet all the morons around here are all "hurrr hurrrrr wat a bad contractz!" Funny.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:45 PM ET
and Hemsky is only 2 and 2 million less per yet all the morons around here are all "hurrr hurrrrr wat a bad contractz!" Funny.
- GuyLaDouche

Stop crying tao.
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 26 @ 7:47 PM ET
Nice play, but no. Semin toe drags around Weber's reaching stick. Ennis shoots over a stick, the toe drag wasn't used to dodge a reaching stick.
- blondinwrx


watch the slo-mo....he toe dragged away from the pokecheck of phillips..same kind of play...

not trying to put down semins effort, but it is a very common move. no doubt it takes skill to do it, but semin isnt worth 7 mil. i wouldnt (as a sabre fan where we dont have a lot of cap room) pay him more than 4.5 mil for 1 year. doesnt play with any heart.
Go Canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VanCity, BC
Joined: 04.11.2009

Jul 26 @ 7:49 PM ET
You are new here so i will explain. Pilgor claims to be the only Black Zamboni driver in NA. No one has seen Pilgor so this could all be made up
- ruttager17

Pilgor is definitely black.

I read it on HockeyBuzz, so I guess that ends the discussion.

Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:57 PM ET
and Hemsky is only 2 and 2 million less per yet all the morons around here are all "hurrr hurrrrr wat a bad contractz!" Funny.
- GuyLaDouche


This comment would be better suited when comparing two players of equal production and health.

Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
watch the slo-mo....he toe dragged away from the pokecheck of phillips..same kind of play...

not trying to put down semins effort, but it is a very common move. no doubt it takes skill to do it, but semin isnt worth 7 mil. i wouldnt (as a sabre fan where we dont have a lot of cap room) pay him more than 4.5 mil for 1 year. doesnt play with any heart.

- qcstudios


Thats the price of free agents though. You save assets aquiring them, but have to pay through the arse. Especially in markets like Carolina and Buffalo. You guys had to do it with Leino last summer.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
LOL at TSN's "Who's Better?" poll!
- laughs2907

Whats up home slice?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
Personally I think Semin gets a bit of a bad rap, and I'm not certain why. He seemed to buy into Hunter's system last year (maybe because he didn't have much of a choice, I wouldn't want to get into Dale's bad books). Gets 0.66 points per game in the playoffs throughtout his career yet everyone says "he disappears".

Have to disagree with you on this one Richard, even though the money is big I think the term Carolina got him for is low risk and high potential reward.

- bazmagoo


I agree with bazmagoo, Richard, You are just mailing it in with this one. Semin is a good player and is A LOT better than Hemsky. The guy gets a bad rap due to bigotry and stereotypes against russian players. The guy is solid in the playoffs and skews towards offense whenever he is on the ice thereby reducing any chances the other team has when he's on the ice.

The guy isn't a liability. I would have like the Canucks to sign him, but they weren't going to pay him more than they do the Sedins...

K

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
Whats up home slice?
- Reveen

Eberle has a 10% lead on Crosby
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
LOL at TSN's "Who's Better?" poll!
- laughs2907


I wanna see a Hall and Eberle showdown in the finals.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:02 PM ET
Eberle has a 10% lead on Crosby
- AdamFrench


Crosby gets penalized for being a mush head. Eberle's awesomeness is too hard to ignore.
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 26 @ 8:04 PM ET
Thats the price of free agents though. You save assets aquiring them, but have to pay through the arse. Especially in markets like Carolina and Buffalo. You guys had to do it with Leino last summer.
- Gunslinger


very true...although you have to suck to get better...so leino is gonna have a GREAT year lol
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:05 PM ET
Crosby gets penalized for being a mush head. Eberle's awesomeness is too hard to ignore.
- Reveen

Fan voting is the best. That's why my Mike Komisarek All-Star jersey is so special.
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