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flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
I"ll bet for every customer who decides to boycott his business, there will those who will now support it because he lives his life by his own religious convictions, and practises what he preaches.

Some will support him because of the negativity that is coming his way from the gay community, who want to force their interpretation of marriage down his throat, and is publicly ridiculing his and boycotting his business.

- Doppleganger

It's not like many gay people eat there anyways. For the most part they are way too healthy for fried chicken. Well maybe the lesbians.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
It's the way he said it. Calling these people arrogant, and then begging for god's mercy because of them is uncalled for. Plus, I think it's silly that chicken franchises feel the need to say these things.

Some people say that Dan Cathy did nothing wrong, and others are to blame for questioning his beliefs... Isn't Dan Cathy guilty of questioning homosexual's beliefs? Maybe Dan Cathy should have enough respect to realize that there are many religions out there that accept gay marriage. Basically his comments made him sound like an arrogant a$$hole.

And another thing I find funny is that people who support Dan Cathy are guilty of clinging to certain things in the bible, while completely ignoring other things. It's quite hilarious actually. For instance, you never hear that those who are wealthy require god's mercy... Those who have divorced require god's mercy... Those who are uncircumcised require god's mercy... Etc etc etc...

- laughs2907

It's called freedom of speech and in America of all places it's supposed to be protected. If you really must know I support gay marriage but I won't support a fast food chain or any budiness being banned because of unpopular political statements.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
It's called freedom of speech and in America of all places it's supposed to be protected. If you really must know I support gay marriage but I won't support a fast food chain or any budiness being banned because of unpopular political statements.
- flamminghead


Freedom of speech or not, certain things are uncalled for... When someone targets an innocent group of individuals, it's not right. Like I said before, if someone said all black people should be slaves, is that correct? Sure the speaker would have freedom of speech, but the speaker would still be an idiot for saying it.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
Freedom of speech or not, certain things are uncalled for... When someone targets an innocent group of individuals, it's not right. Like I said before, if someone said all black people should be slaves, is that correct? Sure the speaker would have freedom of speech, but the speaker would still be an idiot for saying it.
- laughs2907

He's not targeting them. He never said anything about Homosexual civil unions which do the same thing as marriages but under a different name. Marriage is a term that used to only apply to a man and a woman that was the definition of it. Some people don't like to see words change meaning.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
He's not targeting them. He never said anything about Homosexual civil unions which do the same thing as marriages but under a different name. Marriage is a term that used to only apply to a man and a woman that was the definition of it. Some people don't like to see words change meaning.
- flamminghead


Of course he targeted them... Don't be silly. When you call a group of people arrogant and beg for god's mercy because of them, that's targeting them.

I had this conversation with a female last night. She said, that's the definition of marriage. She said the law was the law, and nobody has a right to change the legal definition... I asked her if she enjoyed having the right to vote...
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
Of course he targeted them... Don't be silly. When you call a group of people arrogant and beg for god's mercy because of them, that's targeting them.

I had this conversation with a female last night. She said, that's the definition of marriage. She said the law was the law, and nobody has a right to change the legal definition... I asked her if she enjoyed having the right to vote...

- laughs2907

He said he prays for mercy for them. To me that sounds like he he is on their side but just that he imagines that God is a homophobe.
bruinsbeer69
Boston Bruins
Location: Willcox, AZ
Joined: 09.23.2010

Aug 4 @ 2:08 PM ET

And is the way the right works, even when they're in charge(and thank god they aren't) they paint themselves as the victims, and the rebels against the evil left empire(seriously, they did a star wars pump up video for themselves)... Despite the fact that they are the ones who stand in the way of just about every bit of social progress brought up in the US.

They create a mentality not unlike that of the nazis- " all these minorities are the problem, they're the reason the majority suffers, so (frank)'em" and follow it as ferverently as possible.

- Feeling Glucky?


Thank god they arent?

Aside from the Civil War and the Great Depression, our country has never been worse off. The blame starts at the top
bruinsbeer69
Boston Bruins
Location: Willcox, AZ
Joined: 09.23.2010

Aug 4 @ 2:09 PM ET
It's called freedom of speech and in America of all places it's supposed to be protected. If you really must know I support gay marriage but I won't support a fast food chain or any budiness being banned because of unpopular political statements.
- flamminghead


Exactly.

Free speech is protected.....that included unpopular speech. And what is unpopular depends on who happens to be holding the microphone at the time
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Thank god they arent?

Aside from the Civil War and the Great Depression, our country has never been worse off. The blame starts at the top

- bruinsbeer69

Always blame the people cleaning up the mess left for them.

Conservatives should just say thank you for the healthcare and concentrate on finding a candidate who has an IQ higher than the average household plant.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
Exactly.

Free speech is protected.....that included unpopular speech. And what is unpopular depends on who happens to be holding the microphone at the time

- bruinsbeer69

No... What is unpopular depends on how racist/sexist/homophobic it is.

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to hate speech.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
He said he prays for mercy for them. To me that sounds like he he is on their side but just that he imagines that God is a homophobe.
- flamminghead




If someone prayed for god's mercy based on something you believed in how would you feel about that? Wouldn't you feel a little insulted?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 2:37 PM ET
No... What is unpopular depends on how racist/sexist/homophobic it is.

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to hate speech.

- Feeling Glucky?


Exactly.

I'm very disappointed in some people in this thread. They give way too much weight to the whole "freedom of speech" argument... Is it also OK when that priest said that all homosexuals should be put inside an electric fence, and eventually they'll all die off... He was practicing his freedom of speech, but is it acceptable? (frank) no. There are certain limits, and they definitely are being crossed.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 4 @ 4:29 PM ET
Exactly.

I'm very disappointed in some people in this thread. They give way too much weight to the whole "freedom of speech" argument... Is it also OK when that priest said that all homosexuals should be put inside an electric fence, and eventually they'll all die off... He was practicing his freedom of speech, but is it acceptable? (frank) no. There are certain limits, and they definitely are being crossed.

- laughs2907

Bruinsbeer has run off to find a comparable example of a muslim leader saying something, so he doesn't have to directly address the argument.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 4:40 PM ET
Bruinsbeer has run off to find a comparable example of a muslim leader saying something, so he doesn't have to directly address the argument.
- Feeling Glucky?


Yup. There certainly seems to be a lot of dodging going on in this thread.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 4 @ 5:08 PM ET
You haven't once defended the first amendment rights of the gay community, you've attacked them for standing up against someone attacking their liberties.

And seriously dude, learn to read.

- Feeling Glucky?



This is so funny.............You tell me "learn to read".

Did you read the post of mine that you quoted??? (Friday @ 8:21 PM ET)


It contains this line

.I'm just defending Dan Cathy's and the Gay community for that matter, right to free speech,


Learn to read.........ROTFLMAO
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 4 @ 5:21 PM ET
It's called freedom of speech and in America of all places it's supposed to be protected. If you really must know I support gay marriage but I won't support a fast food chain or any budiness being banned because of unpopular political statements.
- flamminghead



Don't waste your time explaining thatthe EXACT words that came out of Dan Cathy's mouth, during the interview in question, contained exactly ZERO references to the Gay Community.

This poster has been putting words into Dan Cathy's mouth since the beginning of thread, and I proven him wrong numerous times with the exact text, links and quotes from the interview.

The truth has no meaning for this poster, as he insists that Dan Cathy said something completely different, and cannot back it up with links, and I guess it would be hard to post a link from one's own mind.

Save yourself the time trying to convince him of the truth, as he'll have not part of it, and will resort to name calling and insulting................which is typical of the progressive left.

Just watch, he can't help himself.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 5:35 PM ET
Don't waste your time explaining thatthe EXACT words that came out of Dan Cathy's mouth, during the interview in question, contained exactly ZERO references to the Gay Community.

- Doppleganger


You're officially the dumbest person on Hockeybuzz.

Once again, let's break the following quote into 2 sections for you...

"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said. "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."

SECTION 1 - "I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said." - Who do you think Dan Cathy is referring to here? Do you think this comment came as a response to straight people continuing to marry each other? Do you think that? Is that what you think? Try reading between the lines here.

SECTION 2 - "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about." - OK... Now, do we have our thinking caps on? Ummmm let's try to solve this complex riddle. What do we have here... Hmmmmm... Well, he mentioned "the audacity to define what marriage is about"... That means redefining marriage. Hmmmm what does that mean? Does redefine marriage mean for straight people to continue practicing marriage? No, no... I don't think so, because that wouldn't be redefining it, that would be keeping it the same. Hmmmm do you think it could possibly mean the marriage of same sex couples? Do you think that's what he was getting at there? Could it be? Did I actually solve this?

If you can't grasp this, let me know and I'll try to incorporate pie charts and perhaps a puppet show the next time I have to re-post it.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 6:12 PM ET


If someone prayed for god's mercy based on something you believed in how would you feel about that? Wouldn't you feel a little insulted?

- laughs2907

I'd rather have them pray for their god to save me then to have them pray for their god to punish me. You can't change people religious sediments no point gettinangry about them.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 6:13 PM ET
Bruinsbeer has run off to find a comparable example of a muslim leader saying something, so he doesn't have to directly address the argument.
- Feeling Glucky?

Muslims are even worse than christians. The prophet Mohammed wanted all the gays dead.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'd rather have them pray for their god to save me then to have them pray for their god to punish me. You can't change people religious sediments no point gettinangry about them.
- flamminghead


What about the beliefs of gay people? What about the religions out there that support gay marriage? Shouldn't Dan Cathy respect those religions and beliefs?

And another thing that bothers me is that Dan Cathy is choosing certain things from his religion that suits his opinion, and completely ignoring other things. He's picking and choosing as if he's at a buffet.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 6:22 PM ET
What about the beliefs of gay people? What about the religions out there that support gay marriage? Shouldn't Dan Cathy respect those religions and beliefs?

And another thing that bothers me is that Dan Cathy is choosing certain things from his religion that suits his opinion, and completely ignoring other things. He's picking and choosing as if he's at a buffet.

- laughs2907

All followers of religion do this. I saw you claim to be a christian but if you support gay marriage as well you're guilty of it as well.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:25 PM ET
All followers of religion do this. I saw you claim to be a christian but if you support gay marriage as well you're guilty of it as well.
- flamminghead


I'm Anglican (a branch of Christianity) and Anglicans support gay marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iews_on_same-sex_marriage

Not that that matters to me... I'm not very religious.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Aug 4 @ 6:29 PM ET
I'm Anglican (a branch of Christianity) and Anglicans support gay marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iews_on_same-sex_marriage

- laughs2907

Yeah that's my point. Angelicans didn't like parts of the other christianity so they separted and made their own church. The prodestants did the same thing because they wanted divorce and masturbation.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:38 PM ET
Yeah that's my point. Angelicans didn't like parts of the other christianity so they separted and made their own church. The prodestants did the same thing because they wanted divorce and masturbation.
- flamminghead


Who doesn't want masturbation?

So why can't Dan Cathy understand that there are different religions and different beliefs out there than his? Why does he feel that gays have to live their lives according to his beliefs? If Dan Cathy simply said, my belief is that marriage should be between a man and a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big deal. Dan Cathy had to call other religious beliefs arrogant and he had to beg for god's mercy because their beliefs were different than his? He basically sh1tted on every religion that accepts gay marriage. That's basically the definition of arrogance.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 4 @ 7:06 PM ET
You're officially the dumbest person on Hockeybuzz.

Once again, let's break the following quote into 2 sections for you...

"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said. "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."

SECTION 1 - "I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said." - Who do you think Dan Cathy is referring to here? Do you think this comment came as a response to straight people continuing to marry each other? Do you think that? Is that what you think? Try reading between the lines here.

SECTION 2 - "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about." - OK... Now, do we have our thinking caps on? Ummmm let's try to solve this complex riddle. What do we have here... Hmmmmm... Well, he mentioned "the audacity to define what marriage is about"... That means redefining marriage. Hmmmm what does that mean? Does redefine marriage mean for straight people to continue practicing marriage? No, no... I don't think so, because that wouldn't be redefining it, that would be keeping it the same. Hmmmm do you think it could possibly mean the marriage of same sex couples? Do you think that's what he was getting at there? Could it be? Did I actually solve this?

If you can't grasp this, let me know and I'll try to incorporate pie charts and perhaps a puppet show the next time I have to re-post it.

- laughs2907



I'm growing tired of YOUR interpretation of Dan Cathy's statements.




It's like talking to a brick wall. You keep your "Spin" to yourself, I'll stick with the words he said.
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