A gunman armed with a loaded Sig Sauer 9-millimeter pistol and additional ammunition, including two loaded magazines, was stopped from entering the Family Research Council in Washington, DC.
Family Research Council is a Christian, conservative based organization, that voiced it's support for Dan Cathy and supported and promoted the Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day.
Eye witnesses said that the shooter was speaking out against the Family Research Council's Pro-Life, Pro-Family agenda as he tried to enter the building.
The gunman was quoted as saying "It was not about you, it was about what this place stands for."
The gunman also had 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches in a backpack.
The gunman faces charges of transporting a gun across state lines and assault with intent to kill.
The Family Research Council has been involved in protecting traditional marriage nationwide.
It seems this Gunman was motivated by hate and anger, and does not like the Christian, conservative beliefs of FRC or Chick-Fil-A.
His hate was likely fuelled by left wing progressives and those Democratic Mayors who got on national TV and illegally and unconstitutionally threatened to use their government power to kick Chick-Fil-A out of their cities because of the personal Christian beliefs of the owner of Chick-Fil-A.
These left wing progressives call for tolerance of other people's beliefs, unless you are a Christian and then they don't seem to believe your beliefs should not be tolerated.
On another note, here is just one more example of how the left wing progressive media twists someones words around to fit their agenda, and explain to "You" what was really meant, and why they (Conservatives/Christians) are haters, and not the left wing progressive media spin doctors who put words into other peoples mouths.
Why are they idiots? Elaborate svp. - Doppleganger
Toure for making that speech into a racial issue when clearly it wasn't, and Cathy for spewing ridiculous beliefs. Just as our generation looks back on the slavery days with disbelief, so will future generations shake their heads at our stance on gay marriage. It's actually embarrassing.
Toure for making that speech into a racial issue when clearly it wasn't, and Cathy for spewing ridiculous beliefs. Just as our generation looks back on the slavery days with disbelief, so will future generations shake their heads at our stance on gay marriage. It's actually embarrassing. - doon
So asserting your Religious faith in an interview makes you an "idiot".
But you calling his faith "ridiculous" makes you a fine upstanding member of society I guess.
So asserting your Religious faith in an interview makes you an "idiot".
But you calling his faith "ridiculous" makes you a fine upstanding member of society I guess. - Doppleganger
If asserting your religious faith is meant to attack a separate population, I personally believe it is idiotic. Whether or not Dan Cathy actually attacked the Gay Community (I am not debating that), I personally feel that if something doesn't affect you personally in a negative way, you should not be against it.
, I personally feel that if something doesn't affect you personally in a negative way, you should not be against it. - mfreedman
I agree with you one hundred percent.
If the Gay community is not affected personally by Christians/Jews/Muslims/Scientologists practising and preaching their religions, they and the progressive left should not be against it.
If the Gay community is not affected personally by Christians/Jews/Muslims/Scientologists practising and preaching their religions, they and the progressive left should not be against it. - Doppleganger
Hard to have a debate that crosses US Canadian border. Canadians have a collective right of freedom. As a Canadian I cannot assert my individual right of freedom over the collective rights of others. But in the US, far greater emphasis is placed on individual rights. The collective right, although a factor, cannot be used to deny individual liberty. So, in Canada the majority believe that guns are dangerous and the collective imposes limitations on the use and control of handguns and other weapons as a matter of public safety. In the US, the 2nd amendment made gun ownership and control an issue of personal freedom and liberty rather than a matter of public safety.
So, it is an entirely different world when an even more complex issue like free speech is approached.
You can, for example, as an American, say that you believe Dan Cathy has repressed homosexual drives that are at the root of his homophobic opinions. Around the political commentary on this matter you will hear people comparing Mr. Cathy with the sexual problems encountered by evangelical leaders and some of the predatory practices of Roman Catholic clergy. Free speech in the US allows you to say just about anything you want as long as you have a credible belief that it is true.
In Canada, I cannot say things blatantly false merely because I want to believe they are true. I believe Mr. Cathy is entirely outside the teaching of Jesus. I also believe he believes what he says and has said so without intending malice to others. The fact is he is a follower of a religion that is not strong on tolerance. Evangelicals believe they are saved, that they are chosen by God and they are free because of God's purpose alone. They also believe man walked with dinosaurs.
Canadians tend not to take ourselves so seriously. So, rather than seeing Mr. Cathy as mean and vindictive (as many Americans see him) we tend shrug and wonder how Mr. Cathy is able to reconcile the fact that God is against gay lifestyle and we know that because a dinosaur told us so.
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Aug 18 @ 9:19 AM ET
Hard to have a debate that crosses US Canadian border. Canadians have a collective right of freedom. As a Canadian I cannot assert my individual right of freedom over the collective rights of others. But in the US, far greater emphasis is placed on individual rights. The collective right, although a factor, cannot be used to deny individual liberty. So, in Canada the majority believe that guns are dangerous and the collective imposes limitations on the use and control of handguns and other weapons as a matter of public safety. In the US, the 2nd amendment made gun ownership and control an issue of personal freedom and liberty rather than a matter of public safety.
So, it is an entirely different world when an even more complex issue like free speech is approached.
You can, for example, as an American, say that you believe Dan Cathy has repressed homosexual drives that are at the root of his homophobic opinions. Around the political commentary on this matter you will hear people comparing Mr. Cathy with the sexual problems encountered by evangelical leaders and some of the predatory practices of Roman Catholic clergy. Free speech in the US allows you to say just about anything you want as long as you have a credible belief that it is true.
In Canada, I cannot say things blatantly false merely because I want to believe they are true. I believe Mr. Cathy is entirely outside the teaching of Jesus. I also believe he believes what he says and has said so without intending malice to others. The fact is he is a follower of a religion that is not strong on tolerance. Evangelicals believe they are saved, that they are chosen by God and they are free because of God's purpose alone. They also believe man walked with dinosaurs.
Canadians tend not to take ourselves so seriously. So, rather than seeing Mr. Cathy as mean and vindictive (as many Americans see him) we tend shrug and wonder how Mr. Cathy is able to reconcile the fact that God is against gay lifestyle and we know that because a dinosaur told us so. - spatso
If the Gay community is not affected personally by Christians/Jews/Muslims/Scientologists practising and preaching their religions, they and the progressive left should not be against it. - Doppleganger
But the gay community are affected by his effort to stop gay marriage aren't they?
But the gay community are affected by his effort to stop gay marriage aren't they? - doon
What "efforts" are you talking about??
And if there are any, are they greater or lesser than the "efforts" the left wing progressives and the Gay community have used against him, (public condemnations, insults, boycotts, vandalism, employee harassment and protests) in an effort to get him to change his belief system to be more in line with theirs???
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Aug 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
What "efforts" are you talking about??
And if there are any, are they greater or lesser than the "efforts" the left wing progressives and the Gay community have used against him, (pubic condemnations, insults, boycotts, vandalism, employee harassment and protests) in an effort to get him to change his belief system to be more in line with theirs??? - Doppleganger
What efforts to get him to change his belief system?
Ironically, I'd say calling those in favoyr of gay marriage "prideful, arrogant" is public condemnation. - prock
His exact words were “I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we would have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is all about.”
A gunman armed with a loaded Sig Sauer 9-millimeter pistol and additional ammunition, including two loaded magazines, was stopped from entering the Family Research Council in Washington, DC.
Family Research Council is a Christian, conservative based organization, that voiced it's support for Dan Cathy and supported and promoted the Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day.
Eye witnesses said that the shooter was speaking out against the Family Research Council's Pro-Life, Pro-Family agenda as he tried to enter the building.
The gunman was quoted as saying "It was not about you, it was about what this place stands for."
The gunman also had 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches in a backpack.
The gunman faces charges of transporting a gun across state lines and assault with intent to kill.
The Family Research Council has been involved in protecting traditional marriage nationwide.
It seems this Gunman was motivated by hate and anger, and does not like the Christian, conservative beliefs of FRC or Chick-Fil-A.
His hate was likely fuelled by left wing progressives and those Democratic Mayors who got on national TV and illegally and unconstitutionally threatened to use their government power to kick Chick-Fil-A out of their cities because of the personal Christian beliefs of the owner of Chick-Fil-A.
These left wing progressives call for tolerance of other people's beliefs, unless you are a Christian and then they don't seem to believe your beliefs should not be tolerated.
On another note, here is just one more example of how the left wing progressive media twists someones words around to fit their agenda, and explain to "You" what was really meant, and why they (Conservatives/Christians) are haters, and not the left wing progressive media spin doctors who put words into other peoples mouths.
- Doppleganger
Did anyone else find it hilarious that he posted the second part directly after the first part?
If the Gay community is not affected personally by Christians/Jews/Muslims/Scientologists practising and preaching their religions, they and the progressive left should not be against it. - Doppleganger
If it is a comment when things are equal, by all means..
Unfortunately the opinion of Dan Cathy is being made when things aren't equal. So while he is free to express his view, don't blame people for also expressing their objections with his view... Which is happening.
If he can say he opposes it, other people can say they disagree with him, and act on it by personally boycotting his products.. What is wrong with that?
If it is a comment when things are equal, by all means..
Unfortunately the opinion of Dan Cathy is being made when things aren't equal. So while he is free to express his view, don't blame people for also expressing their objections with his view... Which is happening.
If he can say he opposes it, other people can say they disagree with him, and act on it by personally boycotting his products.. What is wrong with that? - mfreedman
Boycotting is no problem, but vandalism, harassing the employees and threatening to withhold business permits unless he changes his religious convictions are not.
Needless to say neither is what happened on Wednesday.
Boycotting is no problem, but vandalism, harassing the employees and threatening to withhold business permits unless he changes his religious convictions are not.
Needless to say neither is what happened on Wednesday. - Doppleganger
Has anyone debated the bolded?
Obviously those things are unacceptable no matter what your opinion on the subject
Boycotting is no problem, but vandalism, harassing the employees and threatening to withhold business permits unless he changes his religious convictions are not.
Needless to say neither is what happened on Wednesday. - Doppleganger
