Soccer: the only sport on Earth where the number zero exists solely as "nill"....
- Giroux_Is_God

Don't they use that in tennis also?

Don't they use that in tennis also?
- stveshdy

That would be "love", sir

Soccer: the only sport on Earth where the number zero exists solely as "nill"....
- Giroux_Is_God

So? It's love in tennis. Gonna yuck face that, too? If you don't like soccer, just don't watch it.

That would be "love", sir
- Giroux_Is_God

Oh yea, and I " love it".

So? It's love in tennis. Gonna yuck face that, too? If you don't like soccer, just don't watch it.
- bodiva88

I never really ragged on soccer itself. I just don't like how they say nill. I think it's annoying

Not a huge fan of soccer, but I watch the World Cup and the Olympics.

And for the record...tennis is so much fun.

i personally feel like their "strength" in balance acts as a weakness at the same time since you're spending 4million on a 3rd line dman. sending Mezaros is the key to making the $ match in a deal like that so, if there are issues with Timmonen's health late in the year, they can make a trade for another dman at the deadline.

at that point, pending any unforseen injuries, they won't need top line help on offense
- eshake

Mr. Gambini? That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection. Overruled!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Personally, I would rather save Timonen by having a 3rd line that can take minutes away from 1st two. You'd rather save the dollars for the TDL. Both valid. I just think that they'll vastly overpay at the TDL to add a top-4 dman, even more so than if they needed to add a little offense. I wouldn't do that deal.

I never really ragged on soccer itself. I just don't like how they say nill. I think it's annoying

Not a huge fan of soccer, but I watch the World Cup and the Olympics.

And for the record...tennis is so much fun.
- Giroux_Is_God

#doop

#doop
- phi1671

The Flyers did, indeed, steal that song from the Union.

Mr. Gambini? That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection. Overruled!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Personally, I would rather save Timonen by having a 3rd line that can take minutes away from 1st two. You'd rather save the dollars for the TDL. Both valid. I just think that they'll vastly overpay at the TDL to add a top-4 dman, even more so than if they needed to add a little offense. I wouldn't do that deal.
- TheGreat28

Judge I STRENUOUSLY object!!

(A Few Good Men, anybody?)

Judge I STRENUOUSLY object!!

(A Few Good Men, anybody?)
- Giroux_Is_God

once on the record
but strenuously....

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Voracek, Cap Space, Laviolette
- bmeltzer

taking names and personal feelings out of it....seriously tell me how:

bottom 6 forward plus 3rd pairing dman and (essentially) 2 first round picks doesn't = Bobby Ryan?

basically, that's about the same the Rangers paid for NASH!
- eshake

Simply because Bobby Ryan isn't that good of a player to command that number of assets. Your assiging values to the players given up in the deal that are false values. Read scored 25 goals last year. Look around the NHL and see how many players each team had that scored that many goals. And your labeling Meszaros as a 3rd pair defenseman. Meszaros is a top 4 defenseman in this League. Capable of playing 20 minutes plus a game, and providing offense. Laughton was a first round pick.

If you think Ryan is worth all that, your vastly overrating him as a player.

#doop
- phi1671

Hate that song!

Don't they use that in tennis also?
- stveshdy

Doan percentages plz

Doan percentages plz
- Crimsoninja

100% Rangers

Doan percentages plz
- Crimsoninja

13.6

I would provide you with the formula but it would just confuse you so you'll have to trust me.

Simply because Bobby Ryan isn't that good of a player to command that number of assets. Your assiging values to the players given up in the deal that are false values. Read scored 25 goals last year. Look around the NHL and see how many players each team had that scored that many goals. And your labeling Meszaros as a 3rd pair defenseman. Meszaros is a top 4 defenseman in this League. Capable of playing 20 minutes plus a game, and providing offense. Laughton was a first round pick.

If you think Ryan is worth all that, your vastly overrating him as a player.
- MJL

Game. Set. Match!

Actually, I was thinking about his earlier comment on the Rangers Nash trade. I'm trying to decide whether I'd trade Read for either Dubinsky or Anisimov straight up. Wouldn't do Mesz for either one. But I don't think I'd even trade Read for one or the other.

Edit: Anisimov

i personally feel like their "strength" in balance acts as a weakness at the same time since you're spending 4million on a 3rd line dman. sending Mezaros is the key to making the $ match in a deal like that so, if there are issues with Timmonen's health late in the year, they can make a trade for another dman at the deadline.

at that point, pending any unforseen injuries, they won't need top line help on offense
- eshake

right now the starting 6 are Timonen, Schenn, Grossmann, Coburn, Meszaros and one of Gervais/Gus/Boudon/Lilja. Take Meszaros out and you have Timonen, Schenn, Grossmann, Coburn, Gervais and Gus/Bourdon/Lilja. And that is assuming everyone stays healthy. Had they gotten Weber they would have had the depth to move a dman but I don't think that is a luxury now unless its one of Gus/Bourdon/Lilja.

right now the starting 6 are Timonen, Schenn, Grossmann, Coburn, Meszaros and one of Gervais/Gus/Boudon/Lilja. Take Meszaros out and you have Timonen, Schenn, Grossmann, Coburn, Gervais and Gus/Bourdon/Lilja. And that is assuming everyone stays healthy. Had they gotten Weber they would have had the depth to move a dman but I don't think that is a luxury now unless its one of Gus/Bourdon/Lilja.
- nastyflyergirl

Might as well bring back Parent/Krajicek/Syvret/Bartulis

13.6

I would provide you with the formula but it would just confuse you so you'll have to trust me.
- canadianpenfan

N = ( R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc) x L

Simply because Bobby Ryan isn't that good of a player to command that number of assets. Your assiging values to the players given up in the deal that are false values. Read scored 25 goals last year. Look around the NHL and see how many players each team had that scored that many goals. And your labeling Meszaros as a 3rd pair defenseman. Meszaros is a top 4 defenseman in this League. Capable of playing 20 minutes plus a game, and providing offense. Laughton was a first round pick.

If you think Ryan is worth all that, your vastly overrating him as a player.
- MJL

Call me crazy, but Read, MAB, Laughton and a 1st is an over payment for Ryan.

It's not even worth discussing. hockeyinsiderrr tried to take credit for breaking the Nash trade to the Rags days before when he had Del Zotto going the other way. Due to the fact that he had the other players in his "report" and Erixson was swapped in for MDZ, I guess he thought he was close enough.

Reagrdless, I don't see Homer moving from Read, Gus/MAB, and 1st. Anything more is overpayment, especially for a guy that is unhappy and wants out.

Call me crazy, but Read, MAB, Laughton and a 1st is an over payment for Ryan.
- jstross

Yea, I wouldn't include Laughton either.

Call me crazy, but Read, MAB, Laughton and a 1st is an over payment for Ryan.
- jstross

I think everyone is in agreement, crazy.

It's not even worth discussing. hockeyinsiderrr tried to take credit for breaking the Nash trade to the Rags days before when he had Del Zotto going the other way. Due to the fact that he had the other players in his "report" and Erixson was swapped in for MDZ, I guess he thought he was close enough.

Reagrdless, I don't see Homer moving from Read, Gus/MAB, and 1st. Anything more is overpayment, especially for a guy that is unhappy and wants out.
- LordStanley88

Also, consider what we got for JVR. Ryan is a little more established than JVR, but I think that is a better comparable than the Nash trade.