Your mistaken if you think that the current role Couturier plays on the Flyers is what sets his trade value.
- MJL

i'm sure there are other factors...but i don't believe any of them pertain to Matt Read unfortunately

I like Doan and the way he plays but I would give him more than 3 years at 5M per year. Thats my max.

Doesn't matter anyways b/c I think he has less than a 5% chance of landing here.
- stveshdy

if he really wants 7+ i think we can change your percentage to big fat ZERO

did i say today or a few years from now? i already forget.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

well, since you can't see the future and PREDICT a few years from now and how they will play the next two years....i guess you'd be making that same decision right now, no?

I like Doan and the way he plays but I would give him more than 3 years at 5M per year. Thats my max.

Doesn't matter anyways b/c I think he has less than a 5% chance of landing here.
- stveshdy

oh me too, i would love to see Doan in the O&B...but i don't think it's going to happen. deep down he wants to stay a 'yote. After that, IN MY OPINION, he's going to sign with a new team 1. for the money 2. chance for the cup (not in any order).
my top three of vets left
Doan
Arnott
Knuble, maybe

if he really wants 7+ i think we can change your percentage to big fat ZERO
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I'm at 2% b/c he came to visit.

That big fat ZERO is more likely to happen at this asking price.

if he really wants 7+ i think we can change your percentage to big fat ZERO
- Don'tForgetTocchet

he used some special formula and came up with 5%...

it could've been 4.75699999% and he rounded up...

oh me too, i would love to see Doan in the O&B...but i don't think it's going to happen. deep down he wants to stay a 'yote. After that, IN MY OPINION, he's going to sign with a new team 1. for the money 2. chance for the cup (not in any order).
my top three of vets left
Doan
Arnott
Knuble, maybe
- phi1671

Arnott would be an interesting player. I want zero to do with Knuble.

I'm at 2% b/c he came to visit.

That big fat ZERO is more likely to happen at this asking price.
- stveshdy

We all agree on that but does Homer?

He was willing to trade for Nash after all

Arnott would be an interesting player. I want zero to do with Knuble.
- stveshdy

I'm a big fan of Knuble as a player. But I don't know that he has anything left at this point.

i would actually put it something like this

we should trade for a given (Bobby Ryan top line winger with 30 goal scoring ability and physical prowes)

for question marks (2 unproven and unselected picks and lower tier players on my depth chart who could regress in their play from 2011-2012 season)

i'm sorry if it's looking like i'm "hating" on Matt Read...i love him as a player. and i like Mezaros.

having Bobby Ryan on your team creates for more constant scoring pressure and potential at 5 on 5 than having both Matt Read and Mezaros on the ice.
- eshake

I don't see remotely how the Flyers have the depth to deal a dman.

Arnott would be an interesting player. I want zero to do with Knuble.
- stveshdy

yeah i can understand that...
i would like to see another VET to go with the forward group...some with pedigree

I'm a big fan of Knuble as a player. But I don't know that he has anything left at this point.
- MJL

see...now THIS you and i can agree on.

with a style of play based on pressure and skating like Lavy wants to employe....no way he can keep up

I don't see remotely how the Flyers have the depth to deal a dman.
- nastyflyergirl

well, they have 3 6th dmen for the 3rd line currently, 4 if you count Gervias...

i would think, b/c Mezaros money goes back the other way, they use their cash mid season to make a trade for a dman at the deadline for the playoffs.

well, they have 3 6th dmen for the 3rd line currently, 4 if you count Gervias...

i would think, b/c Mezaros money goes back the other way, they use their cash mid season to make a trade for a dman at the deadline for the playoffs.
- eshake

There is a huge drop off between Mesz and Bourdon/Gus/Gervais/Lilya.

Like, Oprah Winfrey huge!

Like, Before she had all the fat sucked out!!

I'm a big fan of Knuble as a player. But I don't know that he has anything left at this point.
- MJL

I agree. Thats why I want nothing to do with him. I think he's done but thats just me.

There is a huge drop off between Mesz and Bourdon/Gus/Gervais/Lilya.

Like, Oprah Winfrey huge!

Like, Before she had all the fat sucked out!!
- TheGreat28

Absolutely!

well, since you can't see the future and PREDICT a few years from now and how they will play the next two years....i guess you'd be making that same decision right now, no?
- eshake

not really

i'm just speculating that if we pick up another high-ish priced young player now, we might have to make some hard decisions in the next few years regarding some of our current young players that are supposedly being considered as keepers by the flyers.

which is where the value of a matt read cannot be dismissed.

i don't know that it really needed to be so dissected but hopefully that's enough for you to not be upset about the opinion.

yeah i can understand that...
i would like to see another VET to go with the forward group...some with pedigree
- phi1671

Arnott is probably the VET I would look to add to this club.

not really

i'm just speculating that if we pick up another high-ish priced young player now, we might have to make some hard decisions in the next few years regarding some of our current young players that are supposedly being considered as keepers by the flyers.

which is where the value of a matt read cannot be dismissed.

i don't know that it really needed to be so dissected but hopefully that's enough for you to not be upset about the opinion.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

The production of Read, and the situations in whcih he is used, in relation ot his Cap hit. Is very overlooked by many.

well, they have 3 6th dmen for the 3rd line currently, 4 if you count Gervias...

i would think, b/c Mezaros money goes back the other way, they use their cash mid season to make a trade for a dman at the deadline for the playoffs.
- eshake

With Timonen's age and health I dont see them dealing Mez unless they get back another defenseman who can play in the top 4 if needed.

Arnott is probably the VET I would look to add to this club.
- stveshdy

Couldn't hurt.

Trade winds still blowing.

yeah i can understand that...
i would like to see another VET to go with the forward group...some with pedigree
- phi1671

i DEFINITELY want another vet. with leadership qualities.

devils fan pal of mine says i would tear my hair out over how slow he is. (arnott)

i always liked him but admit i haven't seen him play much at all over the last two years.

what's the general consensus here... is he done or does he still have a year or two in the tank?

not really

i'm just speculating that if we pick up another high-ish priced young player now, we might have to make some hard decisions in the next few years regarding some of our current young players that are supposedly being considered as keepers by the flyers.

which is where the value of a matt read cannot be dismissed.

i don't know that it really needed to be so dissected but hopefully that's enough for you to not be upset about the opinion.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

the only thing that i'm upset about is that i'm not already drinking

Couldn't hurt.

Trade winds still blowing.
- Daman

I was lookin at Da Man@ Da Man for hockey updates.

well, they have 3 6th dmen for the 3rd line currently, 4 if you count Gervias...

i would think, b/c Mezaros money goes back the other way, they use their cash mid season to make a trade for a dman at the deadline for the playoffs.
- eshake

The Flyers have a 37 yr old dman coming off of surgery as one of the top 5 who doesn't need another season of taxing mins during the regular season. Take away Meszaros and you have a top 4 to count on Gervais/Lilja/Bourdon/Gus having to play more mins that I would like to see. No thanks.