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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
I will lose my mind if they make Doan the highest paid player on this team cap wise. And if the reports of some of the offers are true, that would indeed be the case.

Anything over 4.5 is an over payment. And to me even that is a ridiculous number for an over 35 deal.

Just say no, Homer!

- MBFlyerfan



Where are the sources? Is it from here and Many Yuck Mike?

If there were wiffs of truth, I am sure Ek would be on it.

Isn't Doan doing a tour this week, including Montreal? I would say if that is true, then any signings are not imminent.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 30 @ 5:35 PM ET
I will lose my mind if they make Doan the highest paid player on this team cap wise. And if the reports of some of the offers are true, that would indeed be the case.

Anything over 4.5 is an over payment. And to me even that is a ridiculous number for an over 35 deal.

Just say no, Homer!

- MBFlyerfan

+ infinity
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 30 @ 5:36 PM ET
That's ok, we believe you.
- canadianpenfan

canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 30 @ 5:42 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno



ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 30 @ 5:52 PM ET
If they make changes to term limits and limit signing bonuses in the new CBA. That could make an Offer Sheet a veritable waste of time.

I would keep Meszaros rather then trade him for Boyle.

- MJL


I would expect the players' union to compromise on certain issues, but no way do I see the sweeping victory for ownership this time. If the owner's gain a greater slice of the pie, certainly it is reasonable to assume concessions on issues pertaining to free agency. Personally, I believe this opt out of the owners is merely a money grab, a chance to gain a greater slice of the overall pie, not necessarily to fix inherent issues between small and large market teams. Just my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
I would expect the players' union to compromise on certain issues, but no way do I see the sweeping victory for ownership this time. If the owner's gain a greater slice of the pie, certainly it is reasonable to assume concessions on issues pertaining to free agency. Personally, I believe this opt out of the owners is merely a money grab, a chance to gain a greater slice of the overall pie, not necessarily to fix inherent issues between small and large market teams. Just my opinion.
- ravishingone


I see the recent offer sheet to Shea Weber as being Exhibit A for the League and their proposal. And to only strengthen their resolve. That Offer Sheet was immensely bad for the League as a whole. And I see the League fighting to get some of that changed. The chance of a lockout got much stronger after that move.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 30 @ 6:05 PM ET
I see the recent offer sheet to Shea Weber as being Exhibit A for the League and their proposal. And to only strengthen their resolve. That Offer Sheet was immensely bad for the League as a whole. And I see the League fighting to get some of that changed. The chance of a lockout got much stronger after that move.
- MJL


I don't believe the owners are as unified this time. I know the TV contract signed with NBC guarantees a pay out even if not a season. However, let's face it, this league isn't the NFL, any regular season games lost is going to hurt the entire league. If the players roll back salaries, I would assume they would want concessions on issues such as signing bonuses, UFA age and years service, etc. Unlike football players, hockey players can play in other leagues throughout the world. The owners have almost as much to lose as the players this time around if significant time is missed. I don't see the owners able to get dominant victory in this negotiation with slice of pie (biggest negotiating point) and all other areas related to limiting player salaries. Fehr is going to be a very worthy adversary for Bettman.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 6:36 PM ET
Just for those who may have wanted the Flyers to draft Chet Pickard in 2008 (he was selected by Nashville 18th overall 1 pick ahead of Luca Sbisa) the goalie didn't develop in the Nashville system and has signed with Djurgården in Sweden.

Cody Nickolet ‏@WHLFromAbove

According to his Twitter account, goalie Chet Pickard has signed with Djurgarden in Sweden. Former member of the @TCAmericans. #WHL
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 30 @ 6:47 PM ET
Saw a story in the paper today that Jamison can't come up with the money, I know crazy right?

Someone is going to drastically overpay for tyhis guy, and I think it's going to be one of us.

- canadianpenfan


its a shame weber didnt play for the coyotes
maine_mariner
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Live From Wayne Gretzky's Rest
Joined: 04.05.2007

Jul 30 @ 6:47 PM ET
Just for those who may have wanted the Flyers to draft Chet Pickard in 2008 (he was selected by Nashville 18th overall 1 pick ahead of Luca Sbisa) the goalie didn't develop in the Nashville system and has signed with Djurgården in Sweden.

Cody Nickolet ‏@WHLFromAbove

According to his Twitter account, goalie Chet Pickard has signed with Djurgarden in Sweden. Former member of the @TCAmericans. #WHL

- ob18


Awesome. I can add him to my Swedish fantasy league team.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
Awesome. I can add him to my Swedish fantasy league team.
- maine_mariner


You are in one of those too
maine_mariner
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Live From Wayne Gretzky's Rest
Joined: 04.05.2007

Jul 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
You are in one of those too
- ob18


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
Just for those who may have wanted the Flyers to draft Chet Pickard in 2008 (he was selected by Nashville 18th overall 1 pick ahead of Luca Sbisa) the goalie didn't develop in the Nashville system and has signed with Djurgården in Sweden.

Cody Nickolet ‏@WHLFromAbove

According to his Twitter account, goalie Chet Pickard has signed with Djurgarden in Sweden. Former member of the @TCAmericans. #WHL

- ob18


He got surpassed quickly.Flyrs still should have took Markstrom or Carlson
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
You are in one of those too
- ob18



Like there's no enough Sedins.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
He got surpassed quickly.Flyrs still should have took Markstrom or Carlson
- Jsaquella

broadbully16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: scott depot, WV
Joined: 09.06.2006

Jul 30 @ 7:57 PM ET
saw something on twitter the other day about Bob leaving the blue jackets to maybe go back overseas to play. Can anyone fill me in on that
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
saw something on twitter the other day about Bob leaving the blue jackets to maybe go back overseas to play. Can anyone fill me in on that
- broadbully16



@dchesnokov
#KHL's SKA acquired KHL rights to #CBJ goaltender Sergei Bobrovsky. With his ELC expiring next season, SKA may make a push to get him back.

This was on July 23rd.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
I don't believe the owners are as unified this time. I know the TV contract signed with NBC guarantees a pay out even if not a season. However, let's face it, this league isn't the NFL, any regular season games lost is going to hurt the entire league. If the players roll back salaries, I would assume they would want concessions on issues such as signing bonuses, UFA age and years service, etc. Unlike football players, hockey players can play in other leagues throughout the world. The owners have almost as much to lose as the players this time around if significant time is missed. I don't see the owners able to get dominant victory in this negotiation with slice of pie (biggest negotiating point) and all other areas related to limiting player salaries. Fehr is going to be a very worthy adversary for Bettman.
- ravishingone


I think the League's initial proposal showed just how unified they are. It showed they mean business and are going to be wanting significant changes. Just getting a smaller piece of the pie isn't going to be enough for them. No doubt that Fehr and the players are going to want something and are going to draw a line somewhere. We'll see what it is. But it's a mistake to believe that the League and the Owners aren't united. Both sides are going to have to make concessions. But the threat of a lockout is very, very real.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:09 PM ET
I will lose my mind if they make Doan the highest paid player on this team cap wise. And if the reports of some of the offers are true, that would indeed be the case.

Anything over 4.5 is an over payment. And to me even that is a ridiculous number for an over 35 deal.

Just say no, Homer!

- MBFlyerfan


I don't want Doan either at that cost. I'm just saying what I think will be realistic price for him on the open market. 2 years at 12M is probably the smallest offer he will receive.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:11 PM ET
Giroux vs Crosby is good for the NHL and will be for a decade barring health problems. The media will milk it dry.
- canadianpenfan




would love to see the backlash if giroux broke crosby's wrist.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:13 PM ET
sweep the leg
- Dkos



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sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:41 PM ET
As much as Flyers fans were saddened a week ago with Nashville matching the OS, I have to say I'm still pretty excited about this team and think the young guys will continue to grow and develop. I really think Brayden Schenn and Voracek will have really good years and Luke Schenn will be a much better player than he was in Toronto the past few seasons.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:04 PM ET
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- hammarby31

where the hell you find this ?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:12 PM ET
As much as Flyers fans were saddened a week ago with Nashville matching the OS, I have to say I'm still pretty excited about this team and think the young guys will continue to grow and develop. I really think Brayden Schenn and Voracek will have really good years and Luke Schenn will be a much better player than he was in Toronto the past few seasons.
- sulshawn

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:48 PM ET
where the hell you find this ?
- JoeRussomanno


I'm guessing You Tube Joe.
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