Doan may be the least money-driven player in the league?
How about giving that title to Daniel Alfredsson"

- Took a paycut to ensure the team could afford to keep some of it's young stars a few years ago.

- Will play out the last year of his contract paying him $1 million only. This is a guy that scored 27 goals last year and was offered a contract extension to compensate him for his low salary... he refused so he could honor his contract.

Does anyone have a better candidate? I think not.
- Lukus

Yeah, that's a curious statement to say the least. I get that Doan wants his last hurrah and all, but you'd think if a cup were of the utmost importance to him, he'd be a bit more humble/reasonable on the asking price. I think in light of the asking terms, he's flat out showing the caliber person he really is. It's all about me, me, me, me...

Alfredsson is a testiment to players that truly just want to do whats for the good of the team/fans in order to be successful and win. Granted he's played his entire 16 or so year career with Ottawa, so I should think he's merely showing a little loyalty to the only NHL organization he's ever known, but commendable nonetheless. He certainly could have gone another way...

Yeah, that's a curious statement to say the least. I get that Doan wants his last hurrah and all, but you'd think if a cup were of the utmost importance to him, he'd be a bit more humble/reasonable on the asking price. I think in light of the asking terms, he's flat out showing the caliber person he really is. It's all about me, me, me, me...

Alfredsson is a testiment to players that truly just want to do whats for the good of the team/fans in order to be successful and win. Granted he's played his entire 16 or so year career with the Ottawa, so I should think he's merely showing a little loyalty to the only NHL organization he's ever known, but commendable nonetheless. He certainly could have gone another way...
- MnGump

that's a little bit over the top don't you think? he's doing nothing worse than what the vast majority of players/people would do in his situation. his asking price is not reflective of what type of person he is. from the anecdotal stuff we hear, he's a great person away from the rink (humble, respectful and community minded).

that was a very harsh statement. do you feel the same way about suter and parise?

So hungry....

that's a little bit over the top don't you think? he's doing nothing worse than what the vast majority of players/people would do in his situation. his asking price is not reflective of what type of person he is. from the anecdotal stuff we hear, he's a great person away from the rink (humble, respectful and community minded).

that was a very harsh statement. do you feel the same way about suter and parise?
- RealityChecker

Well I have stated in several threads that I think there's no doubt Parise/Suter are being over payed. BUT, they're still both in the prime of their careers and are arguably head and shoulders above the talent level of Doan.

That being said, harsh maybe, but c'mon, if winning is the overall objective, (and let's just say that it is) don't you think it's slightly more reasonable to project a salary that is more in line with ones age, skill level and historcal stat totals?

I'm not saying he's a richard for wanting more than he's worth, I'm saying he's a richard for asking for it. But maybe I'm wrong, mabye winning a cup is not his bottom line. Maybe it's just seeing how much he can actually get... Either way, I think it's greedy and in the long and short term he's probably just hurting himself by trying to extort money from Phoenix. Personally, I don't think he has a chance in hell of getting that contract... from any organization.

Let's just call this what is, a ploy to get Phoenix to pony up. He knows he's not getting what he's reportedly asking for because deep down he wants to stay right where he is, so throw out some ridiculous price to try and force Phoenix to scramble and come up with an offer he likes.

Well I have stated in several threads that I think there's no doubt Parise/Suter are being over payed. BUT, they're still both in the prime of their careers and are arguably head and shoulders above the talent level of Doan.

That being said, harsh maybe, but c'mon, if winning is the overall objective, (and let's just say that is) don't you think it's slightly more reasonable to project a salary that is more in line with ones age, skill level and historcal stat totals?

I'm not saying he's a richard for wanting more than he's worth, I'm saying he's a richard for asking for it. But maybe I'm wrong, mabye winning a cup is not his bottom line. Maybe it's just seeing how much he can actually get... Either way, I think it's greedy and in the long and short term he's probably just hurting himself by trying to extort money from Phoenix. Personally, I don't think he has a chance in hell of getting that contract... from any organization.
- MnGump

i'm not going to get into a back and forth over this but it's curious that your logic is "players in their prime are allowed to be greedy without it reflecting badly on their character but older players don't get the same benefit of the doubt."

my point is that we (sports fans) shouldn't make assumptions on people's characters based on what their contract demands are. doan has had a long career over which we get a glimpse of what type of person he is. his salary expectations/demands now should not diminish that.

finally, i'm not as certain as you that he is trying to "extort" money from phx. from everything that i've read, it's actually the opposite. all he wants is an assurance that the team will not move i.e. that they will be a stable franchise for the next 5 years. if he gets that assurance, i'm under the impression that he would sign for less than market value (as he has done previously). he is not extorting anybody.

i was originally hoping the pens signed him but for 4 yr/30M....no thanks. Could RS trade for Iggy? or Ryan?
- i'mjustafan

Maybe iggy no way we get Ryan

i'm not going to get into a back and forth over this but it's curious that your logic is "players in their prime are allowed to be greedy without it reflecting badly on their character but older players don't get the same benefit of the doubt."

my point is that we (sports fans) shouldn't make assumptions on people's characters based on what their contract demands are. doan has had a long career over which we get a glimpse of what type of person he is. his salary expectations/demands now should not diminish that.

finally, i'm not as certain as you that he is trying to "extort" money from phx. from everything that i've read, it's actually the opposite. all he wants is an assurance that the team will not move i.e. that they will be a stable franchise for the next 5 years. if he gets that assurance, i'm under the impression that he would sign for less than market value (as he has done previously). he is not extorting anybody.
- RealityChecker

Ok, let's say you're right, he just wants assurance. So why then the over inflated asking price? And how dumb does he look if does re-sign with Phoenix for say around 3 to 4 million a year? Things just don't add up. Unless you think his "market value" is around 6 million a year. I think he's delaying interest from other teams in order to drive up the price on phoenix while he waits to see what the fate of the team is, for what will almost surely be his last contract.

I'm not trying to piss you off, I think it's a good debate, I'm not discounting your opinion by any means. I think it's interesting dialogue whether we agree or disagree.

Ok, let's say you're right, he just wants assurance. So why then the over inflated asking price? And how dumb does he look if does re-sign with Phoenix for say around 3 to 4 million a year? Things just don't add up. Unless you think his "market value" is around 6 million a year. I think he's delaying interest from other teams in order to drive up the price on phoenix while he waits to see what the fate of the team is, for what will almost surely be his last contract.

I'm not trying to piss you off, I think it's a good debate, I'm not discounting your opinion by any means. I think it's interesting dialogue whether we agree or disagree.
- MnGump

firstly, let me say that i did not think you were trying to piss me off. we just have a difference of opinion. and your opinion on this is just as valid as mine (only on this subject though - if we disagree on anything else, obviously your opinion is wrong).

secondly, with respect to his market value, i do believe that it is around 6 million. i think there are going to be a few teams that offer him a 3-4 year deal that averages 6m or more. you can argue that he is not worth it but market value and "worth" don't necessarily mean the same thing. market value is quantifiable (at least to his agents if the info isn't leaked) whereas "worth" is subjective.

thirdly, i think he's delaying things b/c he absolutely does not want to leave phx. he's like the guy whose girlfriend continually cheats on him. all she has to say is "i promise i won't do it again," and the guy will come running back. all jamison has to say is "don't worry, i'm going to get the deal done and own this team," and doan will come running back.

firstly, let me say that i did not think you were trying to piss me off. we just have a difference of opinion. and your opinion on this is just as valid as mine (only on this subject though - if we disagree on anything else, obviously your opinion is wrong).

secondly, with respect to his market value, i do believe that it is around 6 million. i think there are going to be a few teams that offer him a 3-4 year deal that averages 6m or more. you can argue that he is not worth it but market value and "worth" don't necessarily mean the same thing. market value is quantifiable (at least to his agents if the info isn't leaked) whereas "worth" is subjective.

thirdly, i think he's delaying things b/c he absolutely does not want to leave phx. he's like the guy whose girlfriend continually cheats on him. all she has to say is "i promise i won't do it again," and the guy will come running back. all jamison has to say is "don't worry, i'm going to get the deal done and own this team," and doan will come running back.
- RealityChecker

Well I guess I can agree with much of that. Hard to argue with your logic really. I like the whole cheating girlfriend analogy! $6 mill is still a bit hard to swallow, but I'm sure you're probably more right than I am on that aspect. But here's what I would offer him if I were in such a postition, front loaded 4 year $20 million deal, 7.5 first 2 years $2.5 last 2, and I think that's still extremely generous. But, I'm not an NHL owner, so it really doesn't matter what I think...

Well I guess I can agree with much of that. Hard to argue with your logic really. I like the whole cheating girlfriend analogy! $6 mill is still a bit hard to swallow, but I'm sure you're probably more right than I am on that aspect. But here's what I would offer him if I were in such a postition, front loaded 4 year $20 million deal, 7.5 first 2 years $2.5 last 2, no signing bonus, and I think that's still extremely generous. But, I'm not an NHL owner, so it really doesn't matter what I think...
- MnGump

before the saga began, i thought a $5m offer for 3 years would be unrivaled. i was clearly wrong.

i think he goes for a 24-26m/4yr contract. too much money for someone over 35 years of age but when your team desperately needs a guy like him (i'm looking at you canucks), you have to overpay. the demand clearly exceeds the supply on the market these days. it's a good time to be a free agent; no matter your age.

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before the saga began, i thought a $5m offer for 3 years would be unrivaled. i was clearly wrong.

i think he goes for a 24-26m/4yr contract. too much money for someone over 35 years of age but when your team desperately needs a guy like him (i'm looking at you canucks), you have to overpay. the demand clearly exceeds the supply on the market these days. it's a good time to be a free agent; no matter your age.
- RealityChecker

If the Canucks can make it work cap wise I would love to see him sign in Vancouver. He seems to be exactly what the team is missing.

(I guess you could say that about 20 other teams in the league as well. )

So hungry....


- glove_was_stuck

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- YouAreTheGovt

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- YouAreTheGovt

So what you are saying is you haven't figured out how to get around it yet?

30 million for 4 years.

30 million for 4 years.
- weirdoh

he wont leave phx...

he wont leave phx...
- nh4442

It's a sign of complete poop that's left when he's the centre of attention around these parts. I just find it funny that he's asking for that to leave the Yotes, well according to TSN anyways.

30 million for 4 years.
- weirdoh

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- FLYERSROCK!

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so there was some hockey involved as they were saying doan doesnt really want 7.5mill that others are saying and what his agent said, but it does look like he wont be a coyote unless it is for 1yr

I'd still put the Rangers as the front-runners to land Doan if he decides that his only viable option is to re-locate from Phoenix. Nevertheless, don't count out Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, Montreal, San Jose, Philadelphia, Detroit or Buffalo. They are ALL involved to varying degrees, and will go full speed ahead if and when the Doan camp gives them the signal.

dont count out all the other teams too
- nh4442

Thank god he didn't mention Vancouver... pretty much what many real insiders have as one of the top 3 realistic destinations for Doan. Phoenix, Van and LA are the 3 most talked about and logical choices for Doan.

*SIGH* I'm so bored.

Shane Doan in Vancouver having dinner with the Nucks brass tonight...mmmm Itialian Kitchen, good choice Mr Doan!

Shane Doan in Vancouver having dinner with the Nucks brass tonight...mmmm Itialian Kitchen, good choice Mr Doan!
- yourgos_george