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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 9:17 AM ET
Let's not forget Anaheim wants the moon and stars for him, and he's simply not worth that in a trade. If Ryan was from Toronto, nobody'd care about getting him.
- Jsaquella


HE'S BOBBY CLARKE'S GODSON AKA THE MESSIAH
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:24 AM ET
Panaccio says that sources say Laviolette's extension could be announced today
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Aug 1 @ 9:25 AM ET
Panaccio says that sources say Laviolette's extension could be announced today
- Jsaquella

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
Panaccio says that sources say Laviolette's extension could be announced today
- Jsaquella


Good. I think Lavy is a great coach for this team and city in general. Can't wait for all the haters to come out and complain. "Change the system! Change the system!" That system won Carolina a Cup in 2006 and brought the Flyers within 2 wins of one in 2010.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:45 AM ET
Good. I think Lavy is a great coach for this team and city in general. Can't wait for all the haters to come out and complain. "Change the system! Change the system!" That system won Carolina a Cup in 2006 and brought the Flyers within 2 wins of one in 2010.
- NickTheKid87



I will stand amongst the haters screaming back at them..."Execute the system correctly! Execute the system correctly!"
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 9:47 AM ET
I will stand amongst the haters screaming back at them..."Execute the system correctly! Execute the system correctly!"

- MBFlyerfan


I'm with you. People just needed a scapegoat as to why they lost to NJ so they decided on Laviolette and his system after they couldn't blame Bryz.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:47 AM ET
Let's not forget Anaheim wants the moon and stars for him, and he's simply not worth that in a trade. If Ryan was from Toronto, nobody'd care about getting him.
- Jsaquella


But...but...NHL12 allows me to trade Read, Manning, and a pick for him! WHY DOESN'T ANAHEIM PLAY NHL12?!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:48 AM ET
I'm with you. People just needed a scapegoat as to why they lost to NJ so they decided on Laviolette and his system after they couldn't blame Bryz.
- NickTheKid87


Bryz is a bust! A bust I tell you!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 1 @ 9:59 AM ET
had to do a double take and make sure I was in the right thread for a minute
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:01 AM ET
I'm with you. People just needed a scapegoat as to why they lost to NJ so they decided on Laviolette and his system after they couldn't blame Bryz.
- NickTheKid87


exactly...
i think the system is fine as long as you are able to tweak it here and there to offset what the other team is doing. But, to constantly trying to blame one thing or another on one or two people are insane. I always get a kick out of the twitter coaches.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:05 AM ET
exactly...
i think the system is fine as long as you are able to tweak it here and there to offset what the other team is doing. But, to constantly trying to blame one thing or another on one or two people are insane. I always get a kick out of the twitter coaches.

- phi1671


I LOVE the Twitter coaches. I always end up getting into arguments with them even though I always try to hold myself back. I agree with tweaking it but that's standard procedure. It's funny to see people wanting to convert to a defensive system like the Rangers. That didn't work out for them either and they had the best goalie and D in the league.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:07 AM ET
Yeah lets blame Bryz for everything....
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:09 AM ET
Yeah lets blame Bryz for everything....
- Flyers_1488

he could have scored a few goals in the NJ series and all the soft goals he let in from December to February really hurt them in that series too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:14 AM ET
I LOVE the Twitter coaches. I always end up getting into arguments with them even though I always try to hold myself back. I agree with tweaking it but that's standard procedure. It's funny to see people wanting to convert to a defensive system like the Rangers. That didn't work out for them either and they had the best goalie and D in the league.
- NickTheKid87



In my opinion if they add a 1-2 forecheck to their systems play and attack more along the half wall or around the circles, would do a lot for them in certain situations. Puts F2 or F3 in a much better position to defend on a breakout. Rather then playing a 2-1 or 2-3 press ultra aggressive forecheck all the time. I think that simple adjustment of playing that way more, would improve them defensively in certain game situations.
Pillar
Location: Amos, QC
Joined: 07.06.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:17 AM ET
Our system is at an all time low here. What has happened to the Flyers bringing up there own players. There is no development.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:21 AM ET
Our system is at an all time low here. What has happened to the Flyers bringing up there own players. There is no development.
- Pillar


Giroux......................................................................................................
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:21 AM ET
Our system is at an all time low here. What has happened to the Flyers bringing up there own players. There is no development.
- Pillar



Well there is Giroux. And they traded two of thier top home grown players in Richards and Carter.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
Giroux......................................................................................................
- NickTheKid87

couturier
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
I LOVE the Twitter coaches. I always end up getting into arguments with them even though I always try to hold myself back. I agree with tweaking it but that's standard procedure. It's funny to see people wanting to convert to a defensive system like the Rangers. That didn't work out for them either and they had the best goalie and D in the league.
- NickTheKid87



in any system you need to have new wrinkles. I'm not going to get into what the wrinkles should be. I don't get paid to come up with them.
and great point on the Rangers. I love how the team got swept but they still lost in the playoffs as did the Flyers.
Getting into an argument with them, i did a few times and i just let it go...LOL
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
Well there is Giroux. And they traded two of thier top home grown players in Richards and Carter.
- MJL


Couturier and Read are homegrown too. And it's not like the Flyers are trading all of their prospects for big name players. They were the winners in the trades for the Couts pick/Voracek/Cousins pick, Timonen/Hartnell, Coburn, Mesz and Grossmann.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
in any system you need to have new wrinkles. I'm not going to get into what the wrinkles should be. I don't get paid to come up with them.
and great point on the Rangers. I love how the team got swept but they still lost in the playoffs as did the Flyers.
Getting into an argument with them, i did a few times and i just let it go...LOL

- phi1671


It's easier to scapegoat than actually consider what the problem could be too. Injuries, emotional drainage from the PIT series, loss of puck battles, lack of team defense and NJ's play were all contributing factors to the Flyers demise this year. For most casual fans, they don't quite understand or know how to spot this so they blame the system/coach or any other SINGLE factor.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:36 AM ET
In my opinion if they add a 1-2 forecheck to their systems play and attack more along the half wall or around the circles, would do a lot for them in certain situations. Puts F2 or F3 in a much better position to defend on a breakout. Rather then playing a 2-1 or 2-3 press ultra aggressive forecheck all the time. I think that simple adjustment of playing that way more, would improve them defensively in certain game situations.
- MJL


I couldnt agree more with this
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
It's easier to scapegoat than actually consider what the problem could be too. Injuries, emotional drainage from the PIT series, loss of puck battles, lack of team defense and NJ's play were all contributing factors to the Flyers demise this year. For most casual fans, they don't quite understand or know how to spot this so they blame the system/coach or any other SINGLE factor.
- NickTheKid87



well i do blame Utley for the Phillies having a crappy season...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
well i do blame Utley for the Phillies having a crappy season...
- phi1671

they sure smacked the dogsnot out of Washington last night wtf
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:48 AM ET
well i do blame Utley for the Phillies having a crappy season...
- phi1671


That's another thing altogether... I've heard people blame everyone under the sun for the Phils demise. A slew of injuries, a core of past-their-prime players and a Triple-A bullpen did the Fightins in.
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