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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
20+ minutes for a 37 yr old coming off assorted injuries sounds like a wonderful plan.
- PLindbergh31



As long as his PK minutes are limited, there is no reason whatsoever he can't play 20 minutes a night. This team can do two things. One is simply take less penalties. Second, mix in other players. They will now have Grossmann, for a full Season, which they didn't have last year. And also L. Schenn. Both can play some of those hard PK minutes, and takes some of that load off of Timonen.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
I'd probably platoon him with Coburn.
- bradleyc4


neither of them can hit left-handed pitching.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
mez was third amongst all dmen last year in even strength points per 60. if he can find a way to harness that shot a little more, he could really put up good numbers--10 goals, 40 points if he has a big power play year.
- OrangeBlack27



I agree. There is no doubt in my mind that he has that ability.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
mez was third amongst all dmen last year in even strength points per 60. if he can find a way to harness that shot a little more, he could really put up good numbers--10 goals, 40 points if he has a big power play year.
- OrangeBlack27

Poor man's Weber Yay or Nay?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
As long as his PK minutes are limited, there is no reason whatsoever he can't play 20 minutes a night. This team can do two things. One is simply take less penalties. Second, mix in other players. They will now have Grossmann, for a full Season, which they didn't have last year. And also L. Schenn. Both can play some of those hard PK minutes, and takes some of that load off of Timonen.
- MJL


Of course his PK minutes should be limited early in the year, goes without saying. That being said if the Flyers take a boatload of penalties as per usual, and his PK minutes are limited, it's going to be hard for him to play 20+ mins at ES/PP.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
I agree. There is no doubt in my mind that he has that ability.
- MJL


minutes-wise, i think it should be coby then mez this year. mez hasn't been given much opportunity the last couple years playing with o'donnell and lilja, against so-so competition. he was awesome the second half of 2011 and i think we could see more of that if he's given the minutes and a decent partner.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
Poor man's Weber Yay or Nay?
- JoeRussomanno


lol that's not fair.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
I am convinced that next years success (and Bryz) will be directly correlated to the health of the defense...

I think Homer was right - Weber would have put them over the top, but the defense is good.

- leon neon


good job LN

Big thing is, if (and more like) when an injury occurs to a top 4 defenseman (especially Kimmo or Mez) and they start to struggle, will Homer just bite the bullet and ride things out with a patchwork of Lilja, Gusty, Gervais, and MAB getting front line minutes or...

will he trade promising young forwards and/or top picks for some veteran puck moving type D man?

I hope he keeps the core intact, and keeps all the first rounders even if they have to struggle a bit next season.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:32 AM ET
lol that's not fair.
- OrangeBlack27

I'll take that as a hmmay
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:32 AM ET
neither of them can hit left-handed pitching.
- OrangeBlack27

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
Poor man's Weber Yay or Nay?
- JoeRussomanno

yay
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
mez was third amongst all dmen last year in even strength points per 60. if he can find a way to harness that shot a little more, he could really put up good numbers--10 goals, 40 points if he has a big power play year.
- OrangeBlack27



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
Of course his PK minutes should be limited early in the year, goes without saying. That being said if the Flyers take a boatload of penalties as per usual, and his PK minutes are limited, it's going to be hard for him to play 20+ mins at ES/PP.
- PLindbergh31



Not really, he averaged about 18 minutes a game in combined ES/PP time last year. His ES icetime was easily the lowest among the regular defenseman. remove some of those hard PK minutes and add some ES time more in line with the other defenseman.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
Nicely stated. Have to figure the Flyers are in for some good fortune on the injury front, however we have been figuring that for the last 5 years.
- PLindbergh31


We'll struggle through the year OK... But another year, adds more stress to Timmo's back and body. Without a pure #1 guy like Pronger was or Weber would have been... Timmo minutes are high, he's bound to wear down in the playoff (assuming we make it). Not to say his mind and heart won't be pumping 110%, but his body just won't do it.

Hopefully, they will cruise into the playoffs and they can give Timmo some rest prior. I assume Homer will be on the hunt for a #1 guy. Maybe pull in an UFA for 2013 at the trade deadline and hope to sign him long term.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
Poor man's Weber Yay or Nay?
- JoeRussomanno



better smile
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 2 @ 10:58 AM ET

good job LN

Big thing is, if (and more like) when an injury occurs to a top 4 defenseman (especially Kimmo or Mez) and they start to struggle, will Homer just bite the bullet and ride things out with a patchwork of Lilja, Gusty, Gervais, and MAB getting front line minutes or...

will he trade promising young forwards and/or top picks for some veteran puck moving type D man?

I hope he keeps the core intact, and keeps all the first rounders even if they have to struggle a bit next season.

- Marc D


See my previous post... Yes, I think they will fill the role from within - if it's early in the season. As we approach the trade deadline - and non-playoff team look at their UFA defenseman... That's when a trade will come to play. Hopefully, since it may be "rental", we won't need to trade active players.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
yay
- Marc D


More like a homeless man's Weber.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
More like a homeless man's Weber.
- PLindbergh31

Poormen are homeless sometimes so that is going in the books as a yay
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
better smile
- Don'tForgetTocchet

go on...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
better smile
- Don'tForgetTocchet

lesser playoff beard
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
So me 2 pieces of the speculated Ryan trade have been deemed healthy. Hmmm...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
More like a homeless man's Weber.
- PLindbergh31

most of the homeless are mentally ill these days
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
most of the homeless are mentally ill these days

- Marc D

I still have a house
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Poormen are homeless sometimes so that is going in the books as a yay
- JoeRussomanno


Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
go on...
- JoeRussomanno



don't get me started
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