Since when is Subban "an all-star?"

overkill on pizza and breaksticks bigtime + immediately drinking 4 beer = feeling your pain.
- joel878

Ouch man, that is rough!

Did you try the Drumstick Mcflurry ? Delicious!
- laughs2907

I did, man that stuff is delish

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

I believe PK is worth a lot, but c'mon man.

Ouch man, that is rough!
- jsam7

(frank) it, 5 beer.

gotta man up. what's perserverence worth if you can't take down a pizza and a flat?

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

Delusional much?

Delusional much?
- Iggysbff

i'm just upset that spiel was to long for a location.

legendary.

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

I hope Oilers prey feed on you tonight !

DElusional... wonder who's who here.

I did, man that stuff is delish
- jsam7

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Since when is Subban "an all-star?"
- PassionBucket16

Since when is he a mega all star ???

Wow...interesting comments in this blog. Subban for Yaks straight up? yeah well I'm no Habs fan but sorry Yaks hasn't even played in the NHL yet where Subban has proven himself. For all we know Yaks is the next coming of Daigle or Stefan so all this talk that Subban isn't worth a 1st overall pick baffles me. Once again, Subban proven NHL defensemen who projects to be a #1 guy versus someone who has never played in the NHL. Completely baffled right now.

i'm just upset that spiel was to long for a location.

legendary.
- joel878

Wow...interesting comments in this blog. Subban for Yaks straight up? yeah well I'm no Habs fan but sorry Yaks hasn't even played in the NHL yet where Subban has proven himself. For all we know Yaks is the next coming of Daigle or Stefan so all this talk that Subban isn't worth a 1st overall pick baffles me. Once again, Subban proven NHL defensemen who projects to be a #1 guy versus someone who has never played in the NHL. Completely baffled right now.
- Hockey_Hoser

baffled?

so what you're saying is that you would've shipped a crosby, ovechkin, tavares, patrick kane, nugent-hopkins.. rick nash.. or any other highly touted first overall draft pick, two months after being drafted, for a player that might qualify as a top 25 defender in the league?

the first overall slot in the 2000's probably has about a 96% superstar backing.. really?

baffled?

so what you're saying is that you would've shipped a crosby, ovechkin, tavares, patrick kane, nugent-hopkins.. rick nash.. or any other highly touted first overall draft pick, two months after being drafted, for a player that might qualify as a top 25 defender in the league?

the first overall slot in the 2000's probably has about a 96% superstar backing.. really?
- joel878

Thats the only one out of that list I may have traded at the time, but it would have come back to me after his first year now

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

ahhhh no

How can you compare Yakupov's potential overall with Subban???? Subban is brutal. He's even more over-rated than Phaneuf. Do you really think if Edmonton didn't give up the 1st pick overall, before the draft, that their strategy was to wait it out to get Subban???? Next years draft is gonna be the biggest one since 06, Edmonton Fan's can wait through an other year of failure so they can be this decade's Detroit Red Wings in a few years...Eventually, free agents will be begging Edmonton to sign them. Patience is what they need....NOT SUBBAN!

baffled?

so what you're saying is that you would've shipped a crosby, ovechkin, tavares, patrick kane, nugent-hopkins.. rick nash.. or any other highly touted first overall draft pick, two months after being drafted, for a player that might qualify as a top 25 defender in the league?

the first overall slot in the 2000's probably has about a 96% superstar backing.. really?
- joel878

uh oh you just threw out a number. Please reference I don't like guestimates. What I'm saying you have a proven commodity versus a non proven commodity. Make the trade if you will but it's a big roll of the dice. Again Yakupov hasn't played in the NHL yet hell not even in pro hockey. Daigle alone was extremely highly touted, more so than Yaks and look at how his career turned out. So make the trade and roll the dice but I think at this point because of Yaks lack of chance to prove himself....Subban has way more value on that fact alone. Also you to think it's ok to prognosticate that a first overall pick is a sure thing but an under 25 defenseman who has already showed his potential for being a #1 dman has no room for improvement? A little contradictory no?

Less desirable? I don't see how Montreal is a less desirable place... better weather, better arena and facilities and more opportunities for sponsorship money. Not to mention all the history that Montreal has if I was an elite player who was offered a ton of money to play in montreal over edmonton i'd definitely choose montreal!
- Habsforever101

but its french there.... a lot of people from the west don't like that, Schultz is from the west

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

I feel a little dumber just reading this.

uh oh you just threw out a number. Please reference I don't like guestimates. What I'm saying you have a proven commodity versus a non proven commodity. Make the trade if you will but it's a big roll of the dice. Again Yakupov hasn't played in the NHL yet hell not even in pro hockey. Daigle alone was extremely highly touted, more so than Yaks and look at how his career turned out. So make the trade and roll the dice but I think at this point because of Yaks lack of chance to prove himself....Subban has way more value on that fact alone. Also you to think it's ok to prognosticate that a first overall pick is a sure thing but an under 25 defenseman who has already showed his potential for being a #1 dman has no room for improvement? A little contradictory no?
- Hockey_Hoser

yes sir, but it's been a long time since a daigle or a stefan was drafted in the 1 slot. i wouldn't trade yakupov for subban +.

subban is not near good enough at his age to warrant trading for a first overall pick who hasn't played a game. not even close. i don't think subban's potential is on the same level, considering he's already filled out a good chunk of it. 35 points is the bar? his positioning is suspect at times, his attitude can be a negative.

subban is promising for sure, but he hasn't shown anything that would indicate he's on the same path as one of the elites at his position, like say, erik karlsson. his max seems to be somewhat of a quality #1, but on the lower end. everyone drafted in yakupov's positon has been relatively unproven. it's not like having never played an nhl game lowers their value when they come that highly touted.

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

Don't get me wrong, I like PK and his potential BUT...no more koolaid for you

Don't get me wrong, I like PK and his potential BUT...no more koolaid for you


- Symba007

This is way more fun

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This is way more fun

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- jsam7

or this

http://youtu.be/Ermpn_1DGhE

Yakupov for Subban will never happen.

Montreal would want Yakupov+ and Edmonton would want Subban+, no chance they meet in the middle.

Personally I don't think Subban is worth a 1st overall pick but even if Edmonton was willing to trade Yakupov for a top line D-man they are much better off targeting someone like Yandle. Offer Yakupov and a couple of prospects you will never miss like Marincin, Musil, or Hartikainen with some picks and you should be able to land Yandle and OEL.

Personally I wouldn't move Yakupov at all unless someone is overpaying (Yakupov, Peckham, 4th for Yandle, OEL or something crazy like that). No need to move a future star like Yakupov that wants to be there and has a chance to be your best player in a fair trade.
- Steven_Dean

Sorry but Yandle is a wimp compared to PK Subban. Subban is still a kid and by the time he is 25 years old he will dominate from the back end. Subban for Yakupov would be a done deal if I was the oiler GM. PK will be a Norris candidate soon and the oil need a guy like him. I also think PK would love to come to Edmonton and play with all the young stars. Yakupov will be trouble down the road whether he is average or great. Subban has a unique passion for the game and plays to win, a tremendous hitter, a wicked slapper and a unreal skater with superb strength in all areas including his mouth.

yes sir, but it's been a long time since a daigle or a stefan was drafted in the 1 slot. i wouldn't trade yakupov for subban +.

subban is not near good enough at his age to warrant trading for a first overall pick who hasn't played a game. not even close. i don't think subban's potential is on the same level, considering he's already filled out a good chunk of it. 35 points is the bar? his positioning is suspect at times, his attitude can be a negative.

subban is promising for sure, but he hasn't shown anything that would indicate he's on the same path as one of the elites at his position, like say, erik karlsson. his max seems to be somewhat of a quality #1, but on the lower end. everyone drafted in yakupov's positon has been relatively unproven. it's not like having never played an nhl game lowers their value when they come that highly touted.
- joel878

Ok I'll give you the point regarding it's been some time since Daigle and Stefan and I will admit scouting has vastly improved.

Not sure Karlsson is a good example though because I'd find it hard to believe anyone expected what he did last season. As for Subban's stats....can't say 35 is his limit. He's only played two seasons and defensemen take longer to develop. I think this would explain his positioning too, he's till learning and the curve is much bigger for a d. Once again I think Karlsson is an exception here.

Also I'm not sure I agree about his attitude, I've heard the reports but I think personally he's being mislabeled by the media. I love his attitude, always got a big smile on his face and looks like he's having tons of fun playing hockey. That doesn't seem to sit well with more traditional hockey pundits. Not sure why.

But let's get back to your stat...96% of first overall picks or something have superstar backing? Mind if I asked where you pulled that stat from?