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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
Have we traded for Bobby Ryan yet?
- Philly1980



NEVER!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 6 @ 10:23 AM ET
NEVER!

- MBFlyerfan


come on......... . Anyone else hear his interview with the guys from the orange update? Guy sounded great. Treated those kids with respect even though they were amateurish...anyways good stuff. he goes into a lot of the personals with the flyers as well... Nice story about bobby clarke giving his family 150 box seats the first time he played in philadelphia. sounds like a great kid. If we dont trade for him, he will definitely be here in three years from the sound of it.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
heres the link if anyone is interested:

http://www.blogtalkradio..../03/the-orange-update-802
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
come on......... . Anyone else hear his interview with the guys from the orange update? Guy sounded great. Treated those kids with respect even though they were amateurish...anyways good stuff. he goes into a lot of the personals with the flyers as well... Nice story about bobby clarke giving his family 150 box seats the first time he played in philadelphia. sounds like a great kid. If we dont trade for him, he will definitely be here in three years from the sound of it.
- Philly1980

I can wait a few years when he's a UFA.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 6 @ 10:34 AM ET
I can wait a few years when he's a UFA.
- Jsaquella


The more the flyers wait the cheaper he will become....whats up with the avatar? I the other one better...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
Probably an incentive laden one year deal for around $1mm or so. I'd assume they'd be looking at him as a 3rd liner with some size and maybe a part time PP piece.
- Jsaquella



On a cheap, one-year, bonus-laden deal, I'd be all for seeing him finish his career in orange and black. However, it would have to be with the mind that he's only a 4th-line player who can give you spot duty on both PP and PK and nothing more than that. The off-ice stuff would be where the real value of a signing would be, but on the ice, he's a very limited player at this stage.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
I can wait a few years when he's a UFA.
- Jsaquella



MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
come on......... . Anyone else hear his interview with the guys from the orange update? Guy sounded great. Treated those kids with respect even though they were amateurish...anyways good stuff. he goes into a lot of the personals with the flyers as well... Nice story about bobby clarke giving his family 150 box seats the first time he played in philadelphia. sounds like a great kid. If we dont trade for him, he will definitely be here in three years from the sound of it.
- Philly1980


Then bring him here in three years. We don't need him. And if the reported asking price of Couturier and Schenn is even remotely accurate.....no thanks.

Any of the other deal floated out there..IE Read, Mezzy, a pick +....why would Anaheim take that deal?

From everything I have read, Anaheim wants too much. Ryan will not magically become a 40-50 goal scorer playing with Giroux.

It is just simply too much going the other way. And it will weaken the team.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
Bryz gave up 6 goals in a exhibition game in the middle of the summer? We're screwed.

Anyone think that the the Flyers will be inviting a veteran free agent or two to camp, a la Blair Betts & Bill Guerin?

- Jsaquella



you beat me to it




i think we'll see arnott
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
I think there's a pretty good chance that Mike Knuble gets a tryout invite if he doesn't get a contract offer elsewhere before camp.
- bmeltzer



oh wow that'll just mess with my emotions
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
The more the flyers wait the cheaper he will become....whats up with the avatar? I the other one better...
- Philly1980



I don't agree with this at all. Anaheim doesn't have to trade him. And if they don't get the deal they want he stays a Duck.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
On a cheap, one-year, bonus-laden deal, I'd be all for seeing him finish his career in orange and black. However, it would have to be with the mind that he's only a 4th-line player who can give you spot duty on both PP and PK and nothing more than that. The off-ice stuff would be where the real value of a signing would be, but on the ice, he's a very limited player at this stage.
- Tomahawk

I'd be interested if I could see him tryout first.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 6 @ 10:44 AM ET
I don't agree with this at all. Anaheim doesn't have to trade him. And if they don't get the deal they want he stays a Duck.
- MBFlyerfan


i meant in terms of years not weeks. I think they can get him rather cheaply at the last year of hes contract if he pulls a staal.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
oh wow that'll just mess with my emotions
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 6 @ 10:48 AM ET

- OrangeBlack27



you too huh
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 6 @ 10:48 AM ET
I don't agree with this at all. Anaheim doesn't have to trade him. And if they don't get the deal they want he stays a Duck.
- MBFlyerfan

If we're talking strictly this summer, then I agree his price isn't going to drop. In terms of waiting past this season, I think his price goes down. Personally, I'm in the 'wait until he's a free agent' camp, unless the price changes dramatically before then.

EDIT: Leight
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:49 AM ET
i meant in terms of years not weeks. I think they can get him rather cheaply at the last year of hes contract if he pulls a staal.
- Philly1980



Understood.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 6 @ 10:56 AM ET
Understood.
- MBFlyerfan


man if the flyers can keep the kids together in three years and sign him for nothing. I think the timing for a cup run is perfect.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 10:58 AM ET
man if the flyers can keep the kids together in three years and sign him for nothing. I think the timing for a cup run is perfect.
- Philly1980


The key being keep the kids together. Let em grow! tweak as needed!


BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 6 @ 11:00 AM ET
On a cheap, one-year, bonus-laden deal, I'd be all for seeing him finish his career in orange and black. However, it would have to be with the mind that he's only a 4th-line player who can give you spot duty on both PP and PK and nothing more than that. The off-ice stuff would be where the real value of a signing would be, but on the ice, he's a very limited player at this stage.

NO way in hell Knuble can kill penalties at this point in his career, he can barely skate at an NHL level. OUtside of standing in front of the net on the pp, he really brings nothing to the table at this point and should probably retire.

Not sure why anyone thinks the Flyers need another forward, I would rather see them go into the season (assuming there is one!) with what they have and make a move for a defenseman the deadline.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 6 @ 11:02 AM ET
The key being keep the kids together. Let em grow! tweak as needed!
- MBFlyerfan


agreed... wouldn't give up the kids (Schenn, Couts) for no one....Sorry to say it not even Weber.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 11:06 AM ET
On a cheap, one-year, bonus-laden deal, I'd be all for seeing him finish his career in orange and black. However, it would have to be with the mind that he's only a 4th-line player who can give you spot duty on both PP and PK and nothing more than that. The off-ice stuff would be where the real value of a signing would be, but on the ice, he's a very limited player at this stage.

NO way in hell Knuble can kill penalties at this point in his career, he can barely skate at an NHL level. OUtside of standing in front of the net on the pp, he really brings nothing to the table at this point and should probably retire.

Not sure why anyone thinks the Flyers need another forward, I would rather see them go into the season (assuming there is one!) with what they have and make a move for a defenseman the deadline.

- BiggE


I agree with this. And if they feel they need a veteran guy I would like to see Arnott instead of Knuble. Arnott can still play a bit.

That being said, if Coots, Schenn, Read, Simmonds, Voracek all improve even just a little as a group, its a win. The season hinges on attention to team defense from the forwards, and Bryzgalov being more comfortable in net knowing he will play 65-70 games. I would also like to see Coburn or Mezzy take a step forward from the puck moving offensive standpoint. But if that doesn't happen, then Lavy will need to adjust the style somewhat to take advantage of the physicality of this defensive group.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Aug 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
Bryz gave up 6 goals in a exhibition game in the middle of the summer? We're screwed.

Anyone think that the the Flyers will be inviting a veteran free agent or two to camp, a la Blair Betts & Bill Guerin?

- Jsaquella




heard the foot's feeling great
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 6 @ 11:25 AM ET
Slow summer...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 6 @ 11:25 AM ET


heard the foot's feeling great

- FlyerMike18


Priceless!
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