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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
I'm a believer in Bryzgalov I just think he needs to play even better this year for this team to have a chance. When you compare the team from last season to this season they are equal or worse. They will need to play better as a team but the goalie may have to carry them this season also.
- stveshdy

I'm with you but here's the conundrum, he played better through three games against NJ and the Flyers went 0-3. Alot of it has to do with the goalie but even the best of them take a whole team only so far. The team has to get on the same page as the guy next to them.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
The season didn't even start yet. Too early to declare that outcome.
- stveshdy

When it comes to football its really not. Tell me when the last time a quarterback who could not protect the football or read a defense won a Superbowl? Granted Roethlisberger had some bad SB's but through the playoffs he was pretty reliable with a defense that the Eagles don't quite have.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
would we have seen 6 shutouts?
- JoeRussomanno


does it matter?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
does it matter?
- bradleyc4

I'm pretty sure some of those shutouts translated to points we might not have earned.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
I'm with you but here's the conundrum, he played better through three games against NJ and the Flyers went 0-3. Alot of it has to do with the goalie but even the best of them take a whole team only so far. The team has to get on the same page as the guy next to them.
- JoeRussomanno


He was the best player on the ice for the Flyers in that series but he wasn't outstanding by any means either IMO. I like Bryzgalov but I have to agree with the GM who even stated that Bryzgalov didn't play as well as he thought he would.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
He was the best player on the ice for the Flyers in that series but he wasn't outstanding by any means either IMO. I like Bryzgalov but I have to agree with the GM who even stated that Bryzgalov didn't play as well as he thought he would.
- stveshdy

Through the whole season? No he didn't but there were stretches including the NJ series where he played pretty good and it didn't matter.

Edit: look all Im saying is they can't going into the season saying we'll just ride the goalie and hope for the best, that hasn't worked too well for NY either.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
When it comes to football its really not. Tell me when the last time a quarterback who could not protect the football or read a defense won a Superbowl? Granted Roethlisberger had some bad SB's but through the playoffs he was pretty reliable with a defense that the Eagles don't quite have.
- JoeRussomanno


To early to determine. Theres a chance he does protect the ball and the Eagles defense plays much better this season. Long season ahead.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
any truth to the rumor of Lubo for a 2nd and 3rd?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
To early to determine. Theres a chance he does protect the ball and the Eagles defense plays much better this season. Long season ahead.
- stveshdy

HE hasn't done it in 10 years and gets pretty huffy in interviews when asked if he'll play the position correctly, no its not too early its in fact too late to think otherwise.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
Through the whole season? No he didn't but there were stretches including the NJ series where he played pretty good and it didn't matter.

Edit: look all Im saying is they can't going into the season saying we'll just ride the goalie and hope for the best, that hasn't worked too well for NY either.

- JoeRussomanno


Bryzgalov has to be better this year. We all know your team plays a big part in that but that was my point earlier that this team is equal or worse than last seasons current roster.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Aug 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
any truth to the rumor of Lubo for a 2nd and 3rd?
- vejim


I would rather keep the picks... This years 2nd and 3rd could be high.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
any truth to the rumor of Lubo for a 2nd and 3rd?
- vejim

where did you hear it?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
I would rather keep the picks... This years 2nd and 3rd could be high.
- SchennBros

Lubo would be a very good add.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
I would rather keep the picks... This years 2nd and 3rd could be high.
- SchennBros

you know Homer is going to trade picks, I just hope he gets a younger D man
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
HE hasn't done it in 10 years and gets pretty huffy in interviews when asked if he'll play the position correctly, no its not too early its in fact too late to think otherwise.
- JoeRussomanno




They should cancel the season. Vick is completely a different player under the Eagles than when he played in Atlanta. His work ethic and knowledge of the game is improving. Maybe he won't protect the ball or read defenses as you suggested but that doesn't mean they dont have a chance of winning. They could rely more on defense and running game this season. You never know whats going to happen things change year to year.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
Bryzgalov has to be better this year. We all know your team plays a big part in that but that was my point earlier that this team is equal or worse than last seasons current roster.
- stveshdy


It's pretty simple... Do the math.

Meszaros and Carle out, Gervais and Schenn in

Jagr and JVR out, Fedetenko and no one in...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
Bryzgalov has to be better this year. We all know your team plays a big part in that but that was my point earlier that this team is equal or worse than last seasons current roster.
- stveshdy

No doubt about it, but even if he is unless the team steps up around him, I'm not getting overly hopeful. I've seen this team laydown and die two years in a row now for the second round of the playoffs and for the life of me, can't figure out the reason.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
where did you hear it?
- jak521

Eklund board...Eklund commented
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 3:07 PM ET


They should cancel the season. Vick is completely a different player under the Eagles than when he played in Atlanta. His work ethic and knowledge of the game is improving. Maybe he won't protect the ball or read defenses as you suggested but that doesn't mean they dont have a chance of winning. They could rely more on defense and running game this season. You never know whats going to happen things change year to year.

- stveshdy

That's a total myth. They won't cancel the season because the total outcome is far from decided and its all about making money. We know the Detroit lions and others will be pretty bad yet the season goes on. The league is more even than it was in the 90's but quarterbacks who play as recklessly as Vick won't win ya a superbowl.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
No doubt about it, but even if he is unless the team steps up around him, I'm not getting overly hopeful. I've seen this team laydown and die two years in a row now for the second round of the playoffs and for the life of me, can't figure out the reason.
- JoeRussomanno


Then why sign Bryzgalov? He is suppose to help clean up the mistakes made by your team. We could of just stayed with a cheap version in net and just say lets hope the team around him get better.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'm pretty sure some of those shutouts translated to points we might not have earned.
- JoeRussomanno


So they would've dropped 11-12 points in the standings (to the 7th or 8th seed) if not for the six shutouts? Is that what you're saying?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
It's pretty simple... Do the math.

Meszaros and Carle out, Gervais and Schenn in

Jagr and JVR out, Fedetenko and no one in...

- PLindbergh31


Sounds about right. I'm sure some young guys will step up this year though.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 3:09 PM ET
It's pretty simple... Do the math.

Meszaros and Carle out, Gervais and Schenn in

Jagr and JVR out, Fedetenko and no one in...

- PLindbergh31

It's really not looking good right now, what we can hope and hang our hats on is perhaps Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds, L.Schenn, Voracek, and Read all take another step. Hell I'd say Giroux is young enough that maybe he's got another rung on the ladder.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
That's a total myth. They won't cancel the season because the total outcome is far from decided and its all about making money. We know the Detroit lions and others will be pretty bad yet the season goes on. The league is more even than it was in the 90's but quarterbacks who play as recklessly as Vick won't win ya a superbowl.
- JoeRussomanno


No QB played as recklessly as Favre and he won a Super Bowl. They guy took more chances then any other QB I watched. He rarely protected the ball and made terrible decisions at times. So I'll still hold out hope.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
So they would've dropped 11-12 points in the standings (to the 7th or 8th seed) if not for the six shutouts? Is that what you're saying?
- bradleyc4

Not exactly but I'm saying there were games with Bryzgalov in there that they won, where had they the other two I'm not so sure.
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