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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 12:10 PM ET
Did panic mode set in yet?
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:12 PM ET
Ugh that list is so depressing.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
I would think he's looking for a multi year deal.
- MJL


I would think given his terrible injury history and the fact that he still hasn't signed somewhere is telling. He can want a multi year deal all he likes, no ones going to give him one.

Id offer a 2 year deal at max if it ment he signed here, but nothing else. Were not even going to get a ton of actual offense from him, but he is good at moving the puck and he's mobile, something we need desperately.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
Did panic mode set in yet?
- stveshdy

I'd say stay the course, let the kid's grow.
Everyone is concerned with Gustafsson's size. I think he'll be alright.
I also think with more ice time he'll put up more offensive numbers.
Gustafsson could turn into a reliable top 4 two-way defenseman.
MAB doesn't project as high IMO but is still steady and serviceable in a 3rd pairing environment.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:17 PM ET
I would think given his terrible injury history and the fact that he still hasn't signed somewhere is telling. He can want a multi year deal all he likes, no ones going to give him one.

Id offer a 2 year deal at max if it ment he signed here, but nothing else. Were not even going to get a ton of actual offense from him, but he is good at moving the puck and he's mobile, something we need desperately.

- mochoson



It's premature to say that he isn't going to get a multi year deal.
PhillyLaFleur
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 8 @ 12:18 PM ET
I think the worst thing the Flyers can do is waste their recently acquired cap space on another UFA D-Man.

Every player Bill listed has no upside. Only limited ability & durability.

I'm calling it right now. Brandon Manning makes this team out of camp, and will be the surprise player for the Flyers this season. He moves the puck well, has good composure, plays physical, likes to mix it up and has a pretty good shot from the point.

Gus, MAB and Manning all have upside to their games and careers. All the UFA defenseman are suspect.

If your team defense is going to have a few growing pains during a season, I'd rather see them happen with young players getting experience and getting better. Every single UFA D will just be a year long liability when the games count in March-June.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Also the Flyers may just have to toss Lauridsen and Manning into the fire this season, pending injuries. Maybe there's an actual NHL defenseman between the two.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Did the NHL rule on the Lubomir Visnovsky hearing? If that trade is nullified perhaps the Flyers can send a 2nd out to Anaheim for him.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
I'd say stay the course, let the kid's grow.
Everyone is concerned with Gustafsson's size. I think he'll be alright.
I also think with more ice time he'll put up more offensive numbers.
Gustafsson could turn into a reliable top 4 two-way defenseman.
MAB doesn't project as high IMO but is still steady and serviceable in a 3rd pairing environment.

- Pixote Andolini


I see nothing wrong with the Flyers going into the season with the current group. The Flyers can upgrade during the season if necessary.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
Move Jakub Voracek back on the blue line!!!

I keed I keed.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
I think the worst thing the Flyers can do is waste their recently acquired cap space on another UFA D-Man.

Every player Bill listed has no upside. Only limited ability & durability.

I'm calling it right now. Brandon Manning makes this team out of camp, and will be the surprise player for the Flyers this season. He moves the puck well, has good composure, plays physical, likes to mix it up and has a pretty good shot from the point.

Gus, MAB and Manning all have upside to their games and careers. All the UFA defenseman are suspect.

If your team defense is going to have a few growing pains during a season, I'd rather see them happen with young players getting experience and getting better. Every single UFA D will just be a year long liability when the games count in March-June.

- PhillyLaFleur


I support your post. No need to upgrade until we see how this team does with what they currently have. Flyers can upgrade whenever they feel the defense is becoming an issue.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
Did the NHL rule on the Lubomir Visnovsky hearing? If that trade is nullified perhaps the Flyers can send a 2nd out to Anaheim for him.
- Pat MaGroin

No more throwing away 2nd round picks like they're basura.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Aug 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
I see nothing wrong with the Flyers going into the season with the current group. The Flyers can upgrade during the season if necessary.
- stveshdy


This is where I come out. Desperate acts lead to bad consquences.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think you should offer sheet Subban or trade the farm for a defenseman.
- canadianpenfan




What have you got against MB?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
What this blog tells me is that someone serviceable with some NHL experience will be available and affordable before the season starts.

Patience Homer, patience.

- MBFlyerfan

Komisarek.

He'd look really good in a Flyers uniform.*










*To Leafs fans.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
This is where I come out. Desperate acts lead to bad consquences.
- FlyersFirst


The Flyers can't make a trade just to make one. Has to be reasonable.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Aug 8 @ 12:26 PM ET


What have you got against MB?

- tangent_man




Not a thing. He set himself up.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
The Flyers can upgrade during the season if necessary.
- stveshdy


Agreed. There will be more and better options later.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
Carlo, Carlo, Carlo
- OrangeBlack27



i guess
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Injury issues or not, I'm sorry, one of Coliacavo/Clark/Kubina is a necessity at this point.
- mochoson


Agreed, we should be get at least a couple games out of any of those guys. But I'd also put in Spacek too. I doubt Kubina will be back, I don't think he impressed Lavy or Homer that much. Though Giroux was very good about pointing out his contributions in the Playoff's while hurt.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
Komisarek.

He'd look really good in a Flyers uniform.*










*To Leafs fans.

- Atomic Wedgie

This joke wasn't funny the 50th time it was told.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 8 @ 12:41 PM ET
It's premature to say that he isn't going to get a multi year deal.
- MJL


It's August, so I'll disagree.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
Shayne Gostisbehere expected in Team USA lineup vs. Finland today. Anthony Stolarz is not playing.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
Agreed, we should be get at least a couple games out of any of those guys. But I'd also put in Spacek too. I doubt Kubina will be back, I don't think he impressed Lavy or Homer that much. Though Giroux was very good about pointing out his contributions in the Playoff's while hurt.
- flyler


Kubina can still play heavy minutes if healthy. Also moves the puck more then admirably and has a heavy shot.

I'm not expecting them to trade for anyone. If their not bringing in a guy like Clark or Kubina, theyll give a try-out to a guy like Campoli or Eaton.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 8 @ 12:45 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Meszaros Injury Impact Isn't Pretty
- bmeltzer



There's the possibility that Meszaros won't miss as much of the season as people are expecting... apparently it's a tear, and not a complete rupture, so there's some room for optimism. Justin Williams had a similar injury during the '08 offseason and initial reports assumed an arduous 6-9 months recovery period... he only missed a couple of months of the season, although he was pretty ineffective when he did return.
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