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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
I'll pass on Kaberle, as he is signed through next Season. If he was on the last year fo his deal, then maybe.
- MJL

Do you think Kimmo retires after this season?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
I'll pass on Kaberle, as he is signed through next Season. If he was on the last year fo his deal, then maybe.
- MJL


Would you trade a 2nd or 3rd for Gonchar?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
I'm excited to see Ghostbear play in the WJC
- Richieattack18


"Ghost is bear?! What a fright!"


"I told you we draft bear on defense!"
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 8 @ 3:44 PM ET
interesting move...
- jak521


Flyers usually get their 1st round picks signed quickly. The contract can slide for the next two seasons if need be; will almost definitely slide this season.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 8 @ 3:45 PM ET
Do you think Kimmo retires after this season?
- jak521



I don't know.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 8 @ 3:46 PM ET
Would you trade a 2nd or 3rd for Gonchar?
- stveshdy



A 3rd maybe.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 8 @ 3:46 PM ET
You're disqualified, going back too far.
- canadianpenfan

pfft I remember that like yesterday
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
Flyers usually get their 1st round picks signed quickly. The contract can slide for the next two seasons if need be; will almost definitely slide this season.
- bmeltzer

Dont they also have three seasons to sign him?
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 8 @ 3:48 PM ET
If there is a work stoppage for say 20 games do they prorate the cap space, LTIR like they do the salaries?

Thanks in advance.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 8 @ 3:48 PM ET
Dont they also have three seasons to sign him?
- jak521


Two years.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:48 PM ET
A 3rd maybe.
- MJL

He actually had a pretty solid year last season.. bounced back a bit from a pretty shoddy season the year before.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:49 PM ET
Two years.
- bmeltzer

So what is the benefit of signing him now? Sorry for my ignorance.

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
Would you trade a 2nd or 3rd for Gonchar?
- stveshdy


No. Gonchar is just a name now. He's washed up.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Aug 8 @ 3:52 PM ET
can't c (me)
- aightwebang17


2pac?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:53 PM ET
No. Gonchar is just a name now. He's washed up.
- NickTheKid87

He put up 37 points last season and was a -5... his 37 points was one behind Matt Carle. The guy can still play.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
So what is the benefit of signing him now? Sorry for my ignorance.
- jak521


This way, it's taken care of (and the contract can slide with no reserve list or salary cap implications). It locks him in at a certain salary in case the rookie max goes up in the next CBA in exchage for a longer wait for FA status. Last but not least, it shows the player the team regards him highly.

It wouldn't have been a big deal if the Flyers had waited to do this part of the way through next season but teams don't like to go into the second year with a first-round pick unsigned (unless they've quickly oured on him, he's gotten injured, etc).
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
2pac?
- steelydan

Indeed.

My walking out to the batter's box song if I were in the Major Leagues.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:58 PM ET
This way, it's taken care of (and the contract can slide with no reserve list or salary cap implications). It locks him in at a certain salary in case the rookie max goes up in the next CBA in exchage for a longer wait for FA status. Last but not least, it shows the player the team regards him highly.

It wouldn't have been a big deal if the Flyers had waited to do this part of the way through next season but teams don't like to go into the second year with a first-round pick unsigned (unless they've quickly oured on him, he's gotten injured, etc).

- bmeltzer

Yea now that I think of it, I guess it is normal to see them get signed during the first season... I guess (aside from Couts who was a different case) its just been such a long time since we had a 1st round pick to sign
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 8 @ 3:59 PM ET
He put up 37 points last season and was a -5... his 37 points was one behind Matt Carle. The guy can still play.
- jak521


That happens all the time with older players; they have one final good year after have a bad year or two and then go on to play poorly again the next year. I wouldn't give up any type of asset for Gonchar also considering how poor he is in his own end. He's 38 now. I'd rather take a chance on someone else.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 3:59 PM ET
Indeed.

My walking out to the batter's box song if I were in the Major Leagues.

- aightwebang17

My song would be myself playing hot cross buns on the recorder. female doges go krazy
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 4:00 PM ET
That happens all the time with older players; they have one final good year after have a bad year or two and then go on to play poorly again the next year. I wouldn't give up any type of asset for Gonchar also considering how poor he is in his own end. He's 38 now. I'd rather take a chance on someone else.
- NickTheKid87

I would agree that I would rather take the chance on another player, but I still think he would do a serviceable job on the back end from an offensive and puck moving standpoint
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
Flyers usually get their 1st round picks signed quickly. The contract can slide for the next two seasons if need be; will almost definitely slide this season.
- bmeltzer



Wonder if the new CBA will see the rookie contract max go up or down.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
I would agree that I would rather take the chance on another player, but I still think he would do a serviceable job on the back end from an offensive and puck moving standpoint
- jak521


I agree. He's a name to consider.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
Yea now that I think of it, I guess it is normal to see them get signed during the first season... I guess (aside from Couts who was a different case) its just been such a long time since we had a 1st round pick to sign
- jak521



Seems like under the Holmgren watch, draft picks the team really likes seem to get signed pretty fast
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 4:11 PM ET
Seems like under the Holmgren watch, draft picks the team really likes seem to get signed pretty fast
- nastyflyergirl

I agree... but didnt couts sign his ELC after training camp? Thats what had me kinda confused..

EDIT: Yea, Couts signed his ELC on September 21st...
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