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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
Not at that crazy price (rumored at 4 years 30M).
- stveshdy


if that's what he got, then I would have to pass. I thought most money doesn't always get the player though? See Parise, and Suter.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
So the Flyers didn't get Doan either huh? Hmmm... Holmgren batting 0.0%
- PLindbergh31


Disagree on batting 0%. My followers knew since the beginning of the offseason that there weren't going to be major changes.

I was surprised by JVR leaving.

I still think Bobby Ryan will happen before the trade deadline.

-Da Man
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
A person in the know says a 1st + a prospect or player
- bradleyc4


That's an expensive price for Jay-Bo. Wow. Defenseman are high priced I guess.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:08 PM ET
Guess you missed the signings of Leighton, Grevais, and Tenko. His batting % is higher than 0.
- stveshdy


I liked the Fedetenko signing he can be a useful player. Gervais goes from spare part, to all of a sudden playing a role with this team. Leighton is a waste of oxygen.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:08 PM ET
if that's what he got, then I would have to pass. I thought most money doesn't always get the player though? See Parise, and Suter.
- PLindbergh31


No it doesn't. The player has to be willing to come to town as well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
I liked the Fedetenko signing he can be a useful player. Gervais goes from spare part, to all of a sudden playing a role with this team. Leighton is a waste of oxygen.
- PLindbergh31



They didn't sign Gervais to be a spare part. And Leighton will be a solid backup.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Depending on the terms. I wouldn't be in favor of a long deal for him. He certainly would improve the team if he was added, no question about it.
- PLindbergh31


But not at the terms that were reported? IE 4 years, etc?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
That's an expensive price for Jay-Bo. Wow. Defenseman are high priced I guess.
- stveshdy


Would you do a 1st + Cousins for Jbo?

I don't think I would. But I would do a 3rd and Cousins for J-Bo.


(currently possessed by a Leaf fan with this post - my apologies)
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
I liked the Fedetenko signing he can be a useful player. Gervais goes from spare part, to all of a sudden playing a role with this team. Leighton is a waste of oxygen.
- PLindbergh31

leighton has stanley cup final experience how is that a waste of oxygen?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
But not at the terms that were reported? IE 4 years, etc?
- MBFlyerfan


4 yrs 30 million is excessive for him. 7+ is a steep price to pay for Doan. I wouldn't have been in favor of that. We don't know what the Flyers offered him. They could have offered more for all we know.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
Would you do a 1st + Cousins for Jbo?

I don't think I would. But I would do a 3rd and Cousins for J-Bo.


(currently possessed by a Leaf fan with this post - my apologies)

- Daman


I would not trade a 1st for Jay-Bo. Lucky if I would deal a third for him, Da Man.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
No it doesn't. The player has to be willing to come to town as well.
- stveshdy

well weber was
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
4 yrs 30 million is excessive for him. 7+ is a steep price to pay for Doan. I wouldn't have been in favor of that. We don't know what the Flyers offered him. They could have offered more for all we know.
- PLindbergh31


Doan really has no intention of leaving the Coyotes IMO.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
They didn't sign Gervais to be a spare part. And Leighton will be a solid backup.
- MJL


Just like Leighton was a solid signing 2 years ago when he was brought back to be the starter and was injured when he signed his contract. 2 yrs, 1.5 million per, and he started 2 regular season games. I guess we have a different definition of solid.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
4 yrs 30 million is excessive for him. 7+ is a steep price to pay for Doan. I wouldn't have been in favor of that. We don't know what the Flyers offered him. They could have offered more for all we know.
- PLindbergh31



So your not in favor of signing Doan to a long term deal, or to the rumored 7M Cap hit. But you have no problem bashing Holmgren for striking out on Doan?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
well weber was
- 2Real


Nothing you can do about that. Nashville went to the secret safe and got the money.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
Just like Leighton was a solid signing 2 years ago when he was brought back to be the starter and was injured when he signed his contract. 2 yrs, 1.5 million per, and he started 2 regular season games. I guess we have a different definition of solid.
- PLindbergh31



Leighton was injured. And that has zero to do with Leighton's ability to be a backup this year to Bryzgalov. What do you care what they had to pay Leighton in the minors?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
Just like Leighton was a solid signing 2 years ago when he was brought back to be the starter and was injured when he signed his contract. 2 yrs, 1.5 million per, and he started 2 regular season games. I guess we have a different definition of solid.
- PLindbergh31


I believe Leighton is an NHL backup. Thats just my thoughts. He shouldn't be a starter though.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:16 PM ET
Doan really has no intention of leaving the Coyotes IMO.
- stveshdy


Maybe not, but he tested the market. The financial situation was up in the air in Phoenix. I'm sure his preference was to stay in Phoenix all things being equal.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
Leighton was injured. And that has zero to do with Leighton's ability to be a backup this year to Bryzgalov. What do you care what they had to pay Leighton in the minors?
- MJL


Injuries have zero to do with a players ability? Good to know.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
Maybe not, but he tested the market. The financial situation was up in the air in Phoenix. I'm sure his preference was to stay in Phoenix all things being equal.
- PLindbergh31


The financial situation is something that Doan is familiar with. I just think he has no choice but to test the open market but his preference is to play in Phoenix. He is willing to wait this long to find out whats going on. If he didnt want to be there he would of signed elsewhere by now.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
So your not in favor of signing Doan to a long term deal, or to the rumored 7M Cap hit. But you have no problem bashing Holmgren for striking out on Doan?
- MJL



lol perfect
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
The financial situation is something that Doan is familiar with. I just think he has no choice but to test the open market but his preference is to play in Phoenix. He is willing to wait this long to find out whats going on. If he didnt want to be there he would of signed elsewhere by now.
- stveshdy


Fair point.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
So your not in favor of signing Doan to a long term deal, or to the rumored 7M Cap hit. But you have no problem bashing Holmgren for striking out on Doan?
- MJL


If your looking for logic, you've knocked on the wrong door (i.e. HB for the slow ones). I recommend driving down the street, and make a right at the second stop sign.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
If your looking for logic, you've knocked on the wrong door (i.e. HB for the slow ones). I recommend driving down the street, and make a right at the second stop sign.
- Daman


Logic is overrated. Sometimes you can overthink.
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