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As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 9 @ 4:54 PM ET
Is Jeff Finger untouchable?
- KGBflyers10


Are Simmonds and Voracek?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
That was because he wanted to play in western Canada but it had nothing specifically to do with the Flyers. Things change.
- bmeltzer


Now the Wings seem to be interested
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 5:03 PM ET
Trust me, the Leafs won that deal, pretty sure that the majority of the hockey thinks so too.

You're going to love watching L. Schenn getting cooked to the outside on a nightly basis.

Coupled with a pair of aging 37 year D in Timmo and Lilja and a couple green D, Philly's D has a very good chance of being exposed this season and Bryzzy will cave.

- As_I_See_It

enjoy jvr's hip problems
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 9 @ 5:04 PM ET
Reasons to keep the kids

Sometimes we yearn for the new because it may hold sercrets that the familiar has already given up. So I thought I'd compare our new D to some of the UFA D people are mentioning as well as some more established guys, to give some perspective. Focusing on Average Ice time as to how important a role they've played.

Gustafsson 16:47 (30 Games) +12, 1g, 4a
Bourdon 16:11 (45 Games) +4 , 4g, 5a
L Schenn 16:02 (79 Games) -6, 2g, 20a
Gervais 14:16 (50 Games) -4, 6g, 7a

Now others
Gilroy 17:17 (67 Games) +2, 3g, 17a
Jovanovski 16:41 (66 Games) -11, 3g, 10a
Spacek 16:05 (46 Games) +6, 5g, 10a
Campoli 17:17 (43 Games) -3, 2g, 9a
Eminger 13:16 (42 Games) +0, 2G, 3A

Gus and Bourdon have already been averaging more minutes than Schenn & Gervais and more than a lot of UFA's people have saying to grab. The 2 players that do play more minutes Colaiacovo & Rozinval racked up about 19 min per game. but both Gus and Bourdon's minutes were increasing.

Why am I bringing this up? Because I have been coming to the conclusion that Gus & MAB are players that ARE ready to step into the NHL and we do not know what they will eventually bring. I think that we are in a weird place because for the first time when the Flyers have holes on D, they might actually have young guys who can step up and fill those holes. And I don't know if Gervais will be sitting or playing when the season begins.

Edit: Gus & Bourdon were pulling in 17-20 minutes by the end of the year.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 9 @ 5:12 PM ET


did you have to go to college for this?
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
just stay pat. You don't want to trade assets at this point with a very high probability of a lockout. you certainly don't overpay.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 5:28 PM ET
Trust me, the Leafs won that deal, pretty sure that the majority of the hockey thinks so too.

You're going to love watching L. Schenn getting cooked to the outside on a nightly basis.

Coupled with a pair of aging 37 year D in Timmo and Lilja and a couple green D, Philly's D has a very good chance of being exposed this season and Bryzzy will cave.

- As_I_See_It


Using the trade proposal you made earlier as a barometer to your ability to accurately assess a fair trade, I'm not to worried about your above statement being true.

Also it's a typical response on forums such as this, that the player we traded to your team, really sucks, and your going to love him getting beat, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
Using the trade proposal you made earlier as a barometer to your ability to accurately assess a fair trade, I'm not to worried about your above statement being true.

Also it's a typical response on forums such as this, that the player we traded to your team, really sucks, and your going to love him getting beat, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.

- MJL

typical mjl response
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 9 @ 6:27 PM ET
Using the trade proposal you made earlier as a barometer to your ability to accurately assess a fair trade, I'm not to worried about your above statement being true.

Also it's a typical response on forums such as this, that the player we traded to your team, really sucks, and your going to love him getting beat, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.

- MJL


PSSST!

You might have noticed that it was Flyers fans that went on the offensive first at every juncture of this dialogue.

Agreed. Typical.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:37 PM ET
PSSST!

You might have noticed that it was Flyers fans that went on the offensive first at every juncture of this dialogue.

Agreed. Typical.

- As_I_See_It


Don't think so. The first dialogue was your ridiculous trade offer. What kind of response did you expect? Then when everyone pretty much intimated how ridiculous it was, you started telling us how Luke Schenn sucks, and how the Flyers are screwed because of their defense to paraphrase.

So let's get back on topic. I asked you to remove Franson and insert another player. What do you got?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 9 @ 6:40 PM ET
typical mjl response
- 2Real

He is loosing his "grip" on this board lol...explains the outbursts!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 9 @ 6:40 PM ET
PSSST!

You might have noticed that it was Flyers fans that went on the offensive first at every juncture of this dialogue.

Agreed. Typical.

- As_I_See_It

I would call your original trade proposal offensive. The whackadoodle logic about the Flyers having to overpay for a defenseman doesn't follow, either.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 9 @ 6:48 PM ET
I would call your original trade proposal offensive. The whackadoodle logic about the Flyers having to overpay for a defenseman doesn't follow, either.
- BulliesPhan87

Flyers won't overpay because there won't be a season
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 9 @ 6:50 PM ET
Flyers won't overpay because there won't be a season
- Philly1980

I still think they get it sorted out. Of course, I recognize I'm being unreasonably optimistic in this instance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:51 PM ET
I still think they get it sorted out. Of course, I recognize I'm being unreasonably optimistic in this instance.
- BulliesPhan87


I think there will be a Season. But I think it's pretty much a definite that it won't start on time.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:57 PM ET


Given the state of Philly's D and even Homer's little Weber stunt, I think it's pretty safe to say that Homer will need to overpay a little to improve his D

- As_I_See_It



Yeah, we will probably overpay a little bit, but it doesn't mean we've lost our sense of humor.

flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:59 PM ET
Is that really what you took from my statement?
- As_I_See_It


That's what your statement said. We can only glean information from the words you write down.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Aug 9 @ 7:02 PM ET
I still think they get it sorted out. Of course, I recognize I'm being unreasonably optimistic in this instance.
- BulliesPhan87

Bettman is a douche forcing us to support his bastards.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 9 @ 7:07 PM ET
I think there will be a Season. But I think it's pretty much a definite that it won't start on time.
- MJL


Good, more time for Meszaros to get better.


sigh.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 7:25 PM ET
honestly, i'm proud that i was able to get anything
- FlyerMike18



JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 7:28 PM ET
Don't think so. The first dialogue was your ridiculous trade offer. What kind of response did you expect? Then when everyone pretty much intimated how ridiculous it was, you started telling us how Luke Schenn sucks, and how the Flyers are screwed because of their defense to paraphrase.

So let's get back on topic. I asked you to remove Franson and insert another player. What do you got?

- MJL

give 'em hell, MJL, hey that Rhymes, think I went to college for that!
On the real, mjl knows the deal, Word is BOnd yay yayeeee
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 7:30 PM ET
give 'em hell, MJL, hey that Rhymes, think I went to college for that!
On the real, mjl knows the deal, Word is BOnd yay yayeeee

- JoeRussomanno

my brain hurts
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 7:30 PM ET
typical mjl response
- 2Real

yo he's representing up in here, son. Besides you didn't Like JVR and that toronto fan is telling us we got hosed, pipe down and let our dog bark will ya?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 7:30 PM ET
Bettman is a douche forcing us to support his bastards.
- Philly1980



what a looser !
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
what a looser !
- Don'tForgetTocchet

he should be tighter
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