while we're on the topic, the only thing more infuriating than reading allan walsh's tweets is seeing his BS retweeted after you unfollow him.

it is really pathetic how much panaccio and brooks eat right out of the players' and agents' hands with this stuff. either they're both on the payroll, or they're completely clueless that all they are are pawns for posturing and framing.
- OrangeBlack27

Agreed, as I just saw Panotch retweet him twice.

I am sure there will be a rollback. The owners put forth that ridiculous first proposal because they knew they wouldn't get it. So when they move off those numbers by 5 or 10%, all of the sudden they look like they are compromising. The players don't really have as much leverage as they think.

All that being said...if they do have a stoppage, Ill be done with the NHL.









Until they come back then I will be right there watching again...after all who am I kidding?

Agreed, as I just saw Panotch retweet him twice.

I am sure there will be a rollback. The owners put forth that ridiculous first proposal because they knew they wouldn't get it. So when they move off those numbers by 5 or 10%, all of the sudden they look like they are compromising. The players don't really have as much leverage as they think.

All that being said...if they do have a stoppage, Ill be done with the NHL.









Until they come back then I will be right there watching again...after all who am I kidding?

- MBFlyerfan

I was about to say...

their jobs are to create excitement and get attention are they not?
- JoeRussomanno

um, the writers?

I happen to agree with Bundy, the owners will get what they want. A rollback in salaries and a larger % of revenue. It wont be the original proposal they just put forth, that was just to make what they really want look reasonable by comparison.
- MBFlyerfan

They are using a pretty shrewd business tactic.. They know full well that their first proposal was way too much.. they also know that by "settling" for a lower roll back, its still a win for them.

I am really warming up to the idea of another year (beyond this one) of Kimmo.
Depends I guess a lot on his health, but he is still really solid. Especially since he'd likely sign for a smaller cap hit.

Yesterday's blog responses made me physically sick.
Seriously Kaberle, Gonchar, Cam Barker, Eminger, 2Real ...
Yuck

Just kidding 2Real, you I love, but the rest of those guys they better stay far away from.
- Marc D

agreed man. i guess you never know what will change, but who is even supposed to be available next summer as a replacement? enstrom would've been nice..... edler will resign

trying to convince kimmo to stick around for another year or two might be the best way to go

um, the writers?
- OrangeBlack27

well pantach is still classified as a writer is he not? or did I misread your post, oh well

Agreed, as I just saw Panotch retweet him twice.

I am sure there will be a rollback. The owners put forth that ridiculous first proposal because they knew they wouldn't get it. So when they move off those numbers by 5 or 10%, all of the sudden they look like they are compromising. The players don't really have as much leverage as they think.

All that being said...if they do have a stoppage, Ill be done with the NHL.









Until they come back then I will be right there watching again...after all who am I kidding?

- MBFlyerfan

Damn beat me to it...

while we're on the topic, the only thing more infuriating than reading allan walsh's tweets is seeing his BS retweeted after you unfollow him.

it is really pathetic how much panaccio and brooks eat right out of the players' and agents' hands with this stuff. either they're both on the payroll, or they're completely clueless that all they are are pawns for posturing and framing.
- OrangeBlack27

Same with the locals...the number of people that RT Carchidi is nauseating.

I am really warming up to the idea of another year (beyond this one) of Kimmo.
Depends I guess a lot on his health, but he is still really solid. Especially since he'd likely sign for a smaller cap hit.

Yesterday's blog responses made me physically sick.
Seriously Kaberle, Gonchar, Cam Barker, Eminger, 2Real ...
Yuck

Just kidding 2Real, you I love, but the rest of those guys they better stay far away from.
- Marc D

could you define love please?

Damn beat me to it...
- jak521

its okay I like to read stuff over and over again.

well pantach is still classified as a writer is he not? or did I misread your post, oh well
- JoeRussomanno

last i checked, a journalist's job is to report on relevant news.

last i checked, a journalists' job is report on relevant news.
- OrangeBlack27

yes that is what it should be but...

No thanks to Bouwmeester, Kaberle, or Gonchar. Or any other overpaid veteran. I'll stick with the kids for now and see what happens during the Season.

last i checked, a journalist's job is to report on relevant news.
- OrangeBlack27

debatable

I've always liked Robak's game as well. Was hoping that Gillis would have drafted him in 2008 instead of Yann Sauve. Was actually hoping that he'd be in any deal, if there is one, with Lu going to Florida.

pretty pathetic, madam.
- OrangeBlack27

There are leaders, and then there are followers. If you want to be a follower, I would suggest finding an intelligent leader.

There are leaders, and then there are followers. If you want to be a follower, I would suggest finding an intelligent leader.
- Daman

:looks farrrrrrrrrrrr away from you:

According to cap geek, Bourdon's AHL salary this season would be 105,000 and next year 625,000.00

well pantach is still classified as a writer is he not? or did I misread your post, oh well
- JoeRussomanno

Why would anyone follow that Harvey Keitel wanna be? Not saying who or who does not, but personally I wouldn't bother.

Despite the hatred towards me, we can all agree that we are blessed to have Bill. For Flyers insight, I don't find the need to "follow" or listen to anyone else. But that is my opinion.

I do follow Dreger via Twitter but that was merely for the trade/FA season. Now I just enjoy Bill, as well as the blessing that is the HB's users posts.

Can't wait for the season. More fun to talk about actual hockey than which D-bag will pass the puck on the third pairing.

could you define love please?
- JoeRussomanno

Well...
It's a universal good feeling I have for all Flyers fans, regardless of their negativity or unlikely trade proposals or crazy ideas...
We all have the same ultimate goal of seeing the Cup go back to S Broad St

:looks farrrrrrrrrrrr away from you:
- OrangeBlack27

Honestly, I was hoping you would say that you are a leader. You are your own man (or woman).

Don't sell yourself short. You are a champion in many ways.

Follow the advice of a legendary investor - "Ignore the Crowd".

Why would anyone follow that Harvey Keitel wanna be? Not saying who or who does not, but personally I wouldn't bother.

Despite the hatred towards me, we can all agree that we are blessed to have Bill. For Flyers insight, I don't find the need to "follow" or listen to anyone else. But that is my opinion.

I do follow Dreger via Twitter but that was merely for the trade/FA season. Now I just enjoy Bill, as well as the blessing that is the HB's users posts.

Can't wait for the season. More fun to talk about actual hockey than which D-bag will pass the puck on the third pairing.
- Daman

calm down sir
the only thing people "hate" is that for weeks on end, 95% of your posts consisted of Howard Eskin sarcasm, passive aggressive whining about the mods, or which nickname you were currently referring to yourself as.
that's all

Well...
It's a universal good feeling I have for all Flyers fans, regardless of their negativity or unlikely trade proposals or crazy ideas...
We all have the same ultimate goal of seeing the Cup go back to S Broad St
- Marc D

Well said Marc. Well said.

Personally, I remain optimistic, even with all the injuries.

Same with the locals...the number of people that RT Carchidi is nauseating.
- tangent_man

Anyone I follow who re-tweets Carchidi gets unfollowed. I don't abide idiots.

calm down sir
the only thing people "hate" is that for weeks on end, 95% of your posts consisted of Howard Eskin sarcasm, passive aggressive whining about the mods, or which nickname you were currently referring to yourself as.
that's all
- Crimsoninja

He's got you there!