So I guess oilers fans think eberle is better than Crosby and hall is better than Stamkos?

So I guess oilers fans think eberle is better than Crosby and hall is better than Stamkos?
- NoobasaurusRex

Yes.... Now gtfo

So I guess oilers fans think eberle is better than Crosby and hall is better than Stamkos?
- NoobasaurusRex

Obviously.

a big minute eater in jaybo would do wonders for the oil.

love to have him.


jesus fuk, do something tambellini. enough relying on high picks in the draft.

So I guess oilers fans think eberle is better than Crosby and hall is better than Stamkos?
- NoobasaurusRex

Well the Oilers are more than capable of spending money.
- robin_steele264

no argument, just comentting on the disparity of those that say those players are untouchable, then think they should be resigned cheap. personally hate the offer sheets, but they are a reality

[quote=Oil Tycoon]

.... drew is better then petro.....

You don't think "what goes around come around" will come into play? You better bet your ass the agents of Eberle, Hopkins, Hall, will wait for a offer sheet to be signed. I hope they all hold out for 6-7 mill each and some GM like, i dunno Darcy comes around and puts "we will match any offer sheet" to the test.
- Buffalo10-2

Nope. You are just detailing a conspiracy theory to satisfy your need for vengeance. I assure you that the team is not looking at it like that.

no argument, just comentting on the disparity of those that say those players are untouchable, then think they should be resigned cheap. personally hate the offer sheets, but they are a reality
- ChrisMS

People hope for the chance that the big players in Edm will choose to take a discount to stay together. Hall and Ebs are already good friends. It is likely that they will take a little less to keep playing together.

People hope for the chance that the big players in Edm will choose to take a discount to stay together. Hall and Ebs are already good friends. It is likely that they will take a little less to keep playing together.
- OilHorse

god i hope so, and i think most oiler fans hope this is the case.
but friendships only go so far i think, and 'likely' taking less is a stretch i think.
i believe taylor wants to win above all else.

maybe its just the inferiority complex in me, but i have real worries about hall signing long term if we finish in a lottery spot again.

tambs needs to do more to ensure this doesnt happen.

god i hope so, and i think most oiler fans hope this is the case.
but friendships only go so far i think. i believe taylor wants to win above all else.

maybe its just the inferiority complex in me, but i have real worries about hall signing long term if we finish in a lottery spot again.

tambs needs to do more to ensure this doesnt happen.
- hugefemale dog77

I agree, friendships DO only go so far. I feel that this is a positive for Edm, becasue not only Hall wants to win, but with him is Ebs, Gags, Yak (he has a strong determination to do his best) and Nuge.

These guys will be on the same page..and that is our top 2 lines. The rest of the team will follow them.

Personally I have no real issue with Tambi and the apparent lack of activity. It was said a couple of years ago that they will not dive into UFA market for Big Fish until this team is ready to make a push. I believe that they are keeping low due to the CBA uncertainty and due to the fact that to get a guy will just cost too much. Teams know that Edm has a weakness on the Dline and they are not just looking for depth, they are looking at a Top Guy. Tambi is not willing to give up the resources that other teams will demand, and other teams do not want what Tambi is offering. Supposedly. We are not on the phones with him so we have no idea what is actually going on.

Much to Laughs' pleasure I agree with him that the change of Khabby as the default starter, to Dubey will increase the team's positioning by close to 5 spots. Having high end talent added like Yak and Schultz (basically 2 first over alls) makes the team better.

I have a bold prediction in my location...I do not believe it is realistic but I do think that getting in the middle 1/3 of the league IS realistic. Even with the roster exactly as it is right now.

Cloutier you do realize that Skinner has more points the last 2 years than Hall and Ebs right? I really try and read your blogs but sometimes you are just painful.

I agree, friendships DO only go so far. I feel that this is a positive for Edm, becasue not only Hall wants to win, but with him is Ebs, Gags, Yak (he has a strong determination to do his best) and Nuge.

These guys will be on the same page..and that is our top 2 lines. The rest of the team will follow them.

Personally I have no real issue with Tambi and the apparent lack of activity. It was said a couple of years ago that they will not dive into UFA market for Big Fish until this team is ready to make a push. I believe that they are keeping low due to the CBA uncertainty and due to the fact that to get a guy will just cost too much. Teams know that Edm has a weakness on the Dline and they are not just looking for depth, they are looking at a Top Guy. Tambi is not willing to give up the resources that other teams will demand, and other teams do not want what Tambi is offering. Supposedly. We are not on the phones with him so we have no idea what is actually going on.

Much to Laughs' pleasure I agree with him that the change of Khabby as the default starter, to Dubey will increase the team's positioning by close to 5 spots. Having high end talent added like Yak and Schultz (basically 2 first over alls) makes the team better.

I have a bold prediction in my location...I do not believe it is realistic but I do think that getting in the middle 1/3 of the league IS realistic. Even with the roster exactly as it is right now.
- OilHorse

im sure ebs, gags etc also want to win. i realize hall isnt the only one. i hope so anyway!!..
but my point was that regardless of said friendships, i can see hall bolting after another brutal finish before ebs would. just a guess, but the frustration in halls face alot of nights last season was pretty apparent.

leaving the ufa market alone is fine. none of the true impact defencemen wanted to come here anyways ill wager. and we'd have had to way overpay to acquire any of em.
although their are a few less expensive, secondary guys that would fit into our top 6 easy that would also help us...just sayin.

as far as the trade route goes...whether teams know our weakness or not, we're not gonna get an impact dman for nothing. we've got to give to get. this isnt gonna change later.
and i believe a package including some combo of gags, prv, harti, hemmer 2013 1st etc. etc, could land us a quality guy. maybe not a elite guy, but an impact player.

now, we may not be as desperate later if someone steps up, but imo its unfair for tambs to just roll the dice and possibly put season ticket holders through another season like the last 3 because he refuses to make any moves, save drafting high.
of course anything is a gamble with no guarantees, but its year 3 coming up, and major strides forward need to be taken. the 2013 first shouldnt even be a thought for tambs.

i too think we'll be a better team with dubs in net, but im far from convinced dubs is the answer. he tends to let in alot of softies still, and i dont believe hes miles ahead of khabby at this point. i hope he does well and at the very least deserves a real shot this year. but with similar defensive deficiencies, he wont make us that much better.

The over 100 pts prediction is ridiculous, but if alot of things go right, its at least possible we could get to the middle 3rd. but thats IF alot of things go right.
With the major additions both just being rookies, it also wouldnt be a shock to see us back near the same spot....

another lottery pick would be an absolute disaster..imo tambs isnt doing enough to avoid this

You don't think "what goes around come around" will come into play? You better bet your ass the agents of Eberle, Hopkins, Hall, will wait for a offer sheet to be signed. I hope they all hold out for 6-7 mill each and some GM like, i dunno Darcy comes around and puts "we will match any offer sheet" to the test.
- Buffalo10-2

It's getting old from you guys, seriously. Its not gonna happen. Deal with it.

no argument, just comentting on the disparity of those that say those players are untouchable, then think they should be resigned cheap. personally hate the offer sheets, but they are a reality
- ChrisMS

Weber signed one. It's totes gonna happen to the Oil!! Hurrrr DURRRR

It's getting old from you guys, seriously. Its not gonna happen. Deal with it.
- GuyLaDouche

Did you go to your Green Lantern fan club (ring brothers) meeting? I hear the newbies get to sacrifice a goat.

im sure ebs, gags etc also want to win. i realize hall isnt the only one. i hope so anyway!!..
but my point was that regardless of said friendships, i can see hall bolting after another brutal finish before ebs would. just a guess, but the frustration in halls face alot of nights last season was pretty apparent.

leaving the ufa market alone is fine. none of the true impact defencemen wanted to come here anyways ill wager. and we'd have had to way overpay to acquire any of em.
although their are a few less expensive, secondary guys that would fit into our top 6 easy that would also help us...just sayin.

as far as the trade route goes...whether teams know our weakness or not, we're not gonna get an impact dman for nothing. we've got to give to get. this isnt gonna change later.
and i believe a package including some combo of gags, prv, harti, hemmer 2013 1st etc. etc, could land us a quality guy. maybe not a elite guy, but an impact player.

now, we may not be as desperate later if someone steps up, but imo its unfair for tambs to just roll the dice and possibly put season ticket holders through another season like the last 3 because he refuses to make any moves, save drafting high.
of course anything is a gamble with no guarantees, but its year 3 coming up, and major strides forward need to be taken. the 2013 first shouldnt even be a thought for tambs.

i too think we'll be a better team with dubs in net, but im far from convinced dubs is the answer. he tends to let in alot of softies still, and i dont believe hes miles ahead of khabby at this point. i hope he does well and at the very least deserves a real shot this year. but with similar defensive deficiencies, he wont make us that much better.

The over 100 pts prediction is ridiculous, but if alot of things go right, its at least possible we could get to the middle 3rd. but thats IF alot of things go right.
With the major additions both just being rookies, it also wouldnt be a shock to see us back near the same spot....

another lottery pick would be an absolute disaster..imo tambs isnt doing enough to avoid this
- hugefemale dog77

Well said.

Cloutier you do realize that Skinner has more points the last 2 years than Hall and Ebs right? I really try and read your blogs but sometimes you are just painful.
- chrisrc

JEFF SKINNER G A PTS
2010-2011 Hurricanes 31 32 63
2011-2012 Hurricanes 20 24 44
51 56 107
JORDAN EBERLE
2010-2011 Oilers 18 25 43
2011-2012 Oilers 34 42 76
52 65 119

All this offer sheet talk makes me laugh. Just cuz Weber signed one now everyone is a target. Guess what? It just doesn't happen. I think teams should use it more often, but they just don't. I remember when the Penner and Vanek offer sheets were made, there were the same threats that teams will offer sheet Nilsson Gagner and Cogliano as payback. Didn't happen then, won't now. IMO, the only one who even remotely considers it is Hall, an even then I doubt it.

The Oilers would love to have a guy like Brodie.....

None of; kane, carlson, subban, or benn have been offersheeted.
Id say all of them are on eberle and halls level.

Offer sheets are few and far between.

I will say though, having 2 high profile rfa's at the same time is a little scary.

im sure ebs, gags etc also want to win. i realize hall isnt the only one. i hope so anyway!!..
but my point was that regardless of said friendships, i can see hall bolting after another brutal finish before ebs would. just a guess, but the frustration in halls face alot of nights last season was pretty apparent.

leaving the ufa market alone is fine. none of the true impact defencemen wanted to come here anyways ill wager. and we'd have had to way overpay to acquire any of em.
although their are a few less expensive, secondary guys that would fit into our top 6 easy that would also help us...just sayin.

as far as the trade route goes...whether teams know our weakness or not, we're not gonna get an impact dman for nothing. we've got to give to get. this isnt gonna change later.
and i believe a package including some combo of gags, prv, harti, hemmer 2013 1st etc. etc, could land us a quality guy. maybe not a elite guy, but an impact player.

now, we may not be as desperate later if someone steps up, but imo its unfair for tambs to just roll the dice and possibly put season ticket holders through another season like the last 3 because he refuses to make any moves, save drafting high.
of course anything is a gamble with no guarantees, but its year 3 coming up, and major strides forward need to be taken. the 2013 first shouldnt even be a thought for tambs.

i too think we'll be a better team with dubs in net, but im far from convinced dubs is the answer. he tends to let in alot of softies still, and i dont believe hes miles ahead of khabby at this point. i hope he does well and at the very least deserves a real shot this year. but with similar defensive deficiencies, he wont make us that much better.

The over 100 pts prediction is ridiculous, but if alot of things go right, its at least possible we could get to the middle 3rd. but thats IF alot of things go right.
With the major additions both just being rookies, it also wouldnt be a shock to see us back near the same spot....

another lottery pick would be an absolute disaster..imo tambs isnt doing enough to avoid this
- hugefemale dog77

Good post!

Flames suck, Tambo sucks, sign Hall and Eberle. Your welcome
- freelancer

im sure ebs, gags etc also want to win. i realize hall isnt the only one. i hope so anyway!!..
but my point was that regardless of said friendships, i can see hall bolting after another brutal finish before ebs would. just a guess, but the frustration in halls face alot of nights last season was pretty apparent.
- hugefemale dog77

Hall also seems to be the most petulant of the Main Stars. I would be the least concerned if he signed an offer sheet over Ebs or Nuge. He is probably the most replaceable of those 3. So if another team were to tender one onto Hall, AND he decided to sign, AND it was of such an amount that Edm decided to not counter, I would be content with the picks to use to go out and get a player to fill the void in Top 6 LW.

Personally, I just don't have any apprehension about Edm finishing that low in the standings. Hall's own drive to succeed will help push Edm upward. All teh positive variables will keep Edm out of the lotto.

leaving the ufa market alone is fine. none of the true impact defencemen wanted to come here anyways ill wager. and we'd have had to way overpay to acquire any of em.
although their are a few less expensive, secondary guys that would fit into our top 6 easy that would also help us...just sayin.

as far as the trade route goes...whether teams know our weakness or not, we're not gonna get an impact dman for nothing. we've got to give to get. this isnt gonna change later.
and i believe a package including some combo of gags, prv, harti, hemmer 2013 1st etc. etc, could land us a quality guy. maybe not a elite guy, but an impact player.

now, we may not be as desperate later if someone steps up, but imo its unfair for tambs to just roll the dice and possibly put season ticket holders through another season like the last 3 because he refuses to make any moves, save drafting high.
of course anything is a gamble with no guarantees, but its year 3 coming up, and major strides forward need to be taken. the 2013 first shouldnt even be a thought for tambs.
- hugefemale dog77

I am not convinced that the is nothing going on, there is no action happening above board. Edm is not the only team looking like they are sitting on their hands.

I have no issue with the next few 1st round picks being up for bait. In fact I encourage it. It would send a message to the team that the draft high philosophy has run its course. I can see some of the prospects being dangled also. I only see Hemmer as a part of a large package because his value is so low. I don't see Gags at all, not enough value on his own and trading him leaves a definite gap in the Top 6, and I do not believe that Hall to Center is the filler for that gap. It would almost be like having another rookie in our lineup.

Still, while another Top 4 Dman would be nice, I just think the asking price would be too high. Realistically our D is filled with middle pairing guys and rounded out with a few 6-8 guys. Whitney is a Top 2 guy but his health is questionable. Smid and Petry showed Top 4 last year, but need to continue that upward progression. the Shultzs' are pure middle pair, one becasue he is a rookie. I look at the group and see a weakness in Top 2, solid middle 2 and good bottom 2. The depth is also available with Sutton, Potter, Pecks.

While not optimal it is not that bad. I am looking at teh Dcore as it is and the potential for one of the prospects to step it up and feel fairly good that the Defence will be better.

i too think we'll be a better team with dubs in net, but im far from convinced dubs is the answer. he tends to let in alot of softies still, and i dont believe hes miles ahead of khabby at this point. i hope he does well and at the very least deserves a real shot this year. but with similar defensive deficiencies, he wont make us that much better.

The over 100 pts prediction is ridiculous, but if alot of things go right, its at least possible we could get to the middle 3rd. but thats IF alot of things go right.
With the major additions both just being rookies, it also wouldnt be a shock to see us back near the same spot....

another lottery pick would be an absolute disaster..imo tambs isnt doing enough to avoid this
- hugefemale dog77

The prediction was actually from spatso...I am gonna give him poop if it doesn't happen, just because he got my hopes up

Maybe I am more optimist than you, but as Laughs has shown via the past 2 years on the stat line having Dubey alone instead of Khabby should easily increase the wins by 5. That is a reasonable guesstimate. Based on the past season those 5 wins gets the team to a .500 record, though not above 20th place. Add that teh kids are now older, and bigger and stronger and in many cases with something to prove, and I can see even a modest increase of 5 more points. these due to the fact that many 1 goal games are won and not lost. We are now at a +15 point increase and in the middle teens in the league.

It is not an impossible prediction. 5 losses into wins, 5 OTL into wins.