Lavi has some options.
- stveshdy

So does Holmgren, if worst comes to worst. This may be the team that starts the season. I'd say it's 60/40 we see a move prior to the season starting.

But I'd say it's 100% certain that there will be moves in season. This ain;t the team we'll be seeing at the TDL

The biggest issue is his injury history. Honestly, one of the big reasons Bouwmeester appeals to me on some level is that he's an ironman
- Jsaquella

but if i can get cc at 2.2-3 mill vs jbo at 6 point whatever... i'd rather take the risk and see if he can live until mesz gets back

Bob McKenzie confirms PAcioretty deal. 6 years, $4.5mm cap hit

So does Holmgren, if worst comes to worst. This may be the team that starts the season. I'd say it's 60/40 we see a move prior to the season starting.

But I'd say it's 100% certain that there will be moves in season. This ain;t the team we'll be seeing at the TDL
- Jsaquella

I have to agree b/c Homer will trade away picks again like he did last year to acquire Kubina and Grossmann.

Bob McKenzie confirms PAcioretty deal. 6 years, $4.5mm cap hit
- Jsaquella

Good deal for a young player who put up 65 points last year.

but if i can get cc at 2.2-3 mill vs jbo at 6 point whatever... i'd rather take the risk and see if he can live until mesz gets back
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Agreed, unless Bouwmeester could be had for a small trade package. $6.68mm is about $1.6mm more than I'm happy with paying Bouwmeester, but it's not totally crippling.

But trading a top six forward and a 1st rounder, plus paying that hit is bad juju

I have to agree b/c Homer will trade away picks again like he did last year to acquire Kubina and Grossmann.
- stveshdy

That's the likely path they will take.

Agreed, unless Bouwmeester could be had for a small trade package. $6.68mm is about $1.6mm more than I'm happy with paying Bouwmeester, but it's not totally crippling.

But trading a top six forward and a 1st rounder, plus paying that hit is bad juju
- Jsaquella

Went on capgeek to check out if Jay-Bo would be cheap salary wise and he's set to make 6.6M for the next two years. No bargain in that department either.

Time to step up for the young kids. Potty training is over.
- stveshdy

I expect another year or two of potty training, some kids are slower than others in their progression.

I expect another year or two of potty training, some kids are slower than others in their progression.
- JoeRussomanno

No child left behind, slowing America down.

Went on capgeek to check out if Jay-Bo would be cheap salary wise and he's set to make 6.6M for the next two years. No bargain in that department either.
- stveshdy

I'm worried solely about the cap hit, from the Flyers perspective. At $5.5mm, nobody'd bat an eye at Bouwmeester. It's unfortunate that he's got such a large hit.

Went on capgeek to check out if Jay-Bo would be cheap salary wise and he's set to make 6.6M for the next two years. No bargain in that department either.
- stveshdy

Unless they hold Meszaros out until the playoffs and provided the no-salary cap thing for the post-season holds up with the new CBA, it won't be too bad. Also considering the uncertainty with Timonen the Following year, it might not be the end of the world to bring in JBo if he can be had for the right price. Yes the cap hit is bad but like I said the Flyers can hold Mez out until the playoffs then you have Kimo's contract coming off the books the following year. Might just work but I'd like for them to explore other if any available options.

I'm worried solely about the cap hit, from the Flyers perspective. At $5.5mm, nobody'd bat an eye at Bouwmeester. It's unfortunate that he's got such a large hit.
- Jsaquella

At that price people would expect him to play like an elite defenseman. He would get crushed here in Philly.

At that price people would expect him to play like an elite defenseman. He would get crushed here in Philly.
- stveshdy

It's a factor, but ultimately you've got to hope that the player can just deal with it, if he makes the team better. If he could come in and put up his Florida numbers, he'd be fairly popular

I think our D could be serviceable in its current state, but it's quite thin...things could fall apart quickly. I'm very much for letting the young players have opportunities, but knowing the Flyers, we're going to see a move to fortify the D at some point, probably sooner than later. This team is good enough to be a playoff team, as is. If they can bolster the team's chances to contend by adding a veteran top 4 guy, I think the Flyers do that...do they do it in the short term or maybe in deal before the deadline? Trading from some of the abundance of quality new youth up front in a package for a quality top pairing D man seems to make the most sense in terms of dealing from strength to address a weakness...there will be some movement there imo. There are a number of those guys that could potentially be on the block in a potential trade. Voracek, Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds, Read...some interesting decisions will have to be made...that could be motivation....let's see who wants to stay!

No child left behind, slowing America down.
- stveshdy

I just worry about my own kids and make sure they are educated, like a parent should. In terms of the Flyers Im not worried about a stanley cup, I'm worried about doing what's right with the roster and a panic move where they unload two maybe three of the nucleus for a stop gap veteran or questionable player like JBO would not be the answer imo. They've tried that and it doesn't work. If a losing season is what's in store this year then oh well considering 90% of the roster is under 26 years of age I'm not worried about the future.

I'm worried solely about the cap hit, from the Flyers perspective. At $5.5mm, nobody'd bat an eye at Bouwmeester. It's unfortunate that he's got such a large hit.
- Jsaquella

Under the circumstances tho with Mez's injury it might be a pill to swallow provided he can be had for the right price. If they didn't trade Schenn or Couts for Weber they sure as hell better not do it for JBo

Under the circumstances tho with Mez's injury it might be a pill to swallow provided he can be had for the right price. If they didn't trade Schenn or Couts for Weber they sure as hell better not do it for JBo
- JoeRussomanno

I wouldn't consider going much higher than a decent prospect and a second rounder.

Even mentioning Couturier or Schenn would result in the other GM hearing a dial tone

Under the circumstances tho with Mez's injury it might be a pill to swallow provided he can be had for the right price. If they didn't trade Schenn or Couts for Weber they sure as hell better not do it for JBo
- JoeRussomanno

I wouldn't give up a current roster player for Jay-Bo. My best offer would be Cousins and 3rd rounder.

Good deal for a young player who put up 65 points last year.
- stveshdy

It is a good deal for a kid with a 30 goal season and upside. His home and road splits are a bit worrisome, though.

In Montreal, he had 42 points and a +14. On the road, 23 points and a -12.

It is a good deal for a kid with a 30 goal season and upside. His home and road splits are a bit worrisome, though.

In Montreal, he had 42 points and a +14. On the road, 23 points and a -12.
- Jsaquella

I believe he's 23 years old. Those are solid numbers for a player who doesn't have much offensive talent around him.

I believe he's 23 years old. Those are solid numbers for a player who doesn't have much offensive talent around him.
- stveshdy

His overall numbers are stellar...just find the split to be a mild concern. They're locking him up for four of his UFA years, which is fantastic

His overall numbers are stellar...just find the split to be a mild concern. They're locking him up for four of his UFA years, which is fantastic
- Jsaquella

Do you think he's a better player than Voracek?

Do you think he's a better player than Voracek?
- stveshdy

I'd lean towards yes. I like his game. Good size, aggressive, nose for the net.

I believe it was Confucius who said, "Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end."
- feelingkettle

Its been bugging me all night, its from that song closing time. Maybe confucius said it, but thats were i remember it from.