oh boy i love how coburn is our vet dman now

Seidenberg only got 19-games of NA hockey before they rushed him into the lineup hoping he would be an offensive contributor... he was undersized and overwhelmed, and when he couldn't put up the expected numbers, they cut bait before allowing him to round out his game.

Pitkanen wasn't rushed to the NHL, but he was rushed up the depth chart and was gift-wrapped a prominent role -- we all know now that he wasn't mentally ready to be an adult, much less a pro, at that time, so fast-tracking him to stardom probably wasn't the best idea.

Sbisa was in the NHL at the age of 18 -- that's pretty much the very definition of rushed. Is it any wonder that Anaheim sent him back to junior for a year before they brought him in as a regular?
- Tomahawk

None of them were rushed. Seidenberg played some for the Flyers and then wen down to the AHL for over 100 games. Then they had a need for a Center and traded him for Nedved. They gave up on him too early, not rushed him.

And Sbisa clearly showed he was capable of playing in the NHL as an 18 year old. Up and down play for young defenseman is typical. And Sbisa is well on his way to being a very good defenseman.

was merely emulating another regular here, sir
- Crimsoninja

i know

Not a bad idea

But I wouldn't be surprised if Weber forces Nashville's hand and he ends up in the Orange and Black next summer. It's tough to have a disgruntled player with a monster contract on any team.
- NickTheKid87

Or, more likely, Nashville never gives him his trade clause and instead ships him off to Edmonton for an epic return.

Or, more likely, Nashville never gives him his trade clause and instead ships him off to Edmonton for an epic return.
- Tomahawk

I still think there's like a 30 percent chance he ends up here in 3 years.

could be the new flyers logo now that they are basically an inept cavalcade of injuries and incompetence


- Crimsoninja

Don't forget to throw gutless and/or putrid in there.

Don't forget to throw gutless and/or putrid in there.
- BulliesPhan87

oh poop I walked into the Islanders thread again

oh boy i love how coburn is our vet dman now
- 2Real

Longest tenured Flyer on the team, dude.

Get with it.

Longest tenured Flyer on the team, dude.

Get with it.
- feelingkettle

Its not like Coburn is horrible either. He's a very good defenseman, room for improvement no doubt but has been a rock for us especially in the Playoffs.

Don't forget to throw gutless and/or putrid in there.
- BulliesPhan87

dont' forget inept as well

Or, more likely, Nashville never gives him his trade clause and instead ships him off to Edmonton for an epic return.
- Tomahawk

Haha I wouldn't be surprised if that's half the reason they don't want to give him a NTC. If he gets his NTC then he could potentially handcuff Nashville if or when he demands a trade.

Longest tenured Flyer on the team, dude.

Get with it.
- feelingkettle

hell someone could be on the flyers from 18-24 and i wouldn't consider the player a vet despite being on the team 6 years

hell someone could be on the flyers from 18-24 and i wouldn't consider the player a vet despite being on the team 6 years
- 2Real

just curious how do you feel about the player depicted in your avatar?

just curious how do you feel about the player depicted in your avatar?
- JoeRussomanno

simmonds is a friggen monster i love him

simmonds is a friggen monster i love him
- 2Real

and coburn sucks despite being probably our best defenseman in the past two playoffs. While Simmonds couldn't get more than a goal because of a broken finger.

None of them were rushed. Seidenberg played some for the Flyers and then wen down to the AHL for over 100 games. Then they had a need for a Center and traded him for Nedved. They gave up on him too early, not rushed him.

And Sbisa clearly showed he was capable of playing in the NHL as an 18 year old. Up and down play for young defenseman is typical. And Sbisa is well on his way to being a very good defenseman.
- MJL

Either way, the point is that the Flyers have drafted good dmen... they just don't often get to see the fruits of those picks for various reasons.

http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2012/aug/12/us-junior-hockey-coach-housley-impressed-with-unio/

Housley was pretty impressed with the Ghostbuster
- jak521

Ghostbear is the next Erik Karlsson

and coburn sucks despite being probably our best defenseman in the past two playoffs. While Simmonds couldn't get more than a goal because of a broken finger.
- JoeRussomanno

dude simmonds scored a goal off his face... a GOAL off his face
and where did i say coburn sucks? also, it's easy to be our best dman with our d is so pathetic
btw, timonen was our best defenseman

Ghostbear is the next Erik Karlsson
- Richieattack18

no Erik Karlsson is the next Ghostbear

dude simmonds scored a goal off his face... a GOAL off his face
and where did i say coburn sucks? also, it's easy to be our best dman with our d is so pathetic
btw, timonen was our best defenseman
- 2Real

actually some good points by you, except for Kimo being the best dmen for us this year, I didn't think so but maybe that's just a matter of Opinion. You do make it seem like you're saying Coburn sucks.

Haha I wouldn't be surprised if that's half the reason they don't want to give him a NTC. If he gets his NTC then he could potentially handcuff Nashville if or when he demands a trade.
- NickTheKid87

Marincin/Klefbom + Teubert/Musil + Gagner + Hemsky + 1st-round pick(s) trump anything that the Flyers would be willing to put together, that's for sure... and that's just a conservative proposal on EDM's part, too.

Either way, the point is that the Flyers have drafted good dmen... they just don't often get to see the fruits of those picks for various reasons.
- Tomahawk

That I agree with. I think one of the biggest reasons is this Organization continually tries to win. And is not afraid to ship off prospects to fill needs for the Flyers. A lot of those deals haven't worked out. But do you kill them for taking a chance and going for it?

Marincin/Klefbom + Teubert/Musil + Gagner + Hemsky + 1st-round pick(s) trump anything that the Flyers would be willing to put together, that's for sure... and that's just a conservative proposal on EDM's part, too.
- Tomahawk

I completely agree. They could offer up Hall plus a first or a prospect and that could get the job done too.

- aightwebang17

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