We hit the high for the summer here so far... 86 degrees.
I don't know how you folks back east deal with the heat.

I'm sitting on the porch drinking a raspberry homebrew.
Next beer planned is a ginger...
in honor of the 19/28/93 line

If they lock out this season I think I'm done with it.
- Marc D

It's almost comical at this point.

We hit the high for the summer here so far... 86 degrees.
I don't know how you folks back east deal with the heat.

I'm sitting on the porch drinking a raspberry homebrew.
Next beer planned is a ginger...
in honor of the 19/28/93 line

If they lock out this season I think I'm done with it.
- Marc D

I don't see losing a full Season. But there will almost definitely be a lockout.

at least we'll have NHL 13 so we can just keep trading for Jay-Bo and Ryan with picks and Shelley.

at least we'll have NHL 13 so we can just keep trading for Jay-Bo and Ryan with picks and Shelley.
- KGBflyers10

i would wreck u

I don't see losing a full Season. But there will almost definitely be a lockout.
- MJL

All this will succeed in doing, is UNdoing all of the popularity progress the NHL has made over the last 5 years. The NBA was making a bid for it with their stupid labor problems last season. I guess the NHL couldn't stand not being the biggest joke of the pro sports world.

When the two sides are far apart, or using Fehr's term of a gulf between them. There is a lot of room to negotiate. That isn't the problem. The League doesn't seem open to it. The players were willing to share part of the burden to address the League's financial problems. The League wants them to take the full brunt.

The good news is that things can change very quickly. But right now, they can't even agree on the financial picture of the League. Before they can even sit down and actually hammer out an actual agreement, they have to find a common ground.

Bettman and Fehr can't even agree if the NHLPA gave an actual proposal. Bettman says they haven't. And Fehr says other then a few minor things, the League has what they need from the players.

Both side want to negotiate from the starting point of their proposal. There is zero common ground right now.
- MJL

I have a feeling the league isn't going to give even an inch until the September 15 deadline is much closer.

All this will succeed in doing, is UNdoing all of the popularity progress the NHL has made over the last 5 years. The NBA was making a bid for it with their stupid labor problems last season. I guess the NHL couldn't stand not being the biggest joke of the pro sports world.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not as concerned where negotiations are at this point with posturing from both sides. Once the calendar hits September, I expect both sides to push the pace. August represents the time to try and gain public support and stick your chest out.

i would wreck u
- Crimsoninja

Ever since you mentioned Can I Play with Madness not so long ago, it's become an ear worm to me. Thanks for extending my recent Maiden binge.

at least we'll have NHL 13 so we can just keep trading for Jay-Bo and Ryan with picks and Shelley.
- KGBflyers10

Not sure why NHL13 doesn't have a lockout mode. I can imagine negotiating a CBA would be kind of interesting.

Not sure why NHL13 doesn't have a lockout mode. I can imagine negotiating a CBA would be kind of interesting.
- feelingkettle

indeed

Not sure why NHL13 doesn't have a lockout mode. I can imagine negotiating a CBA would be kind of interesting.
- feelingkettle

I would wreck u... by reading the emails of all of the members of the PA, ruling it with an iron - but Fehr - hand.

I don't see losing a full Season. But there will almost definitely be a lockout.
- MJL

It would be a mini vacation for my better half, so there is that.

It would be a mini vacation for my better half, so there is that.
- Marc D

*proud husband of a converted non-believer, whom rages more so than myself at the game.

i would wreck u
- Crimsoninja

I'm horrendous at online games. Just pure embarrassment on my part.

awww yeah wayne train for 6 more years

TSNBobMcKenzie: Wayne Simmonds has agreed to 6 year extension with PHI. Not sure on precise AAV but hearing it's around $4M per year.

TSNBobMcKenzie: Wayne Simmonds has agreed to 6 year extension with PHI. Not sure on precise AAV but hearing it's around $4M per year.
- Hatchet

He'll be gone by December. Too bad, I really liked WayneTrain...

So what does everyone think of the Simms re-signing? I really like it.

He'll be gone by December. Too bad, I really liked WayneTrain...
- PhillySteen

didn't even think of that... extensions are the kiss of death in philly

TSNBobMcKenzie: Wayne Simmonds has agreed to 6 year extension with PHI. Not sure on precise AAV but hearing it's around $4M per year.
- Hatchet

kiss of death.

just kidding.

good work, holmger.

too bad for wayne, 1 of those 6 years isn't going to be spent playing hockey. nhl hockey anyway.

kiss of death.

just kidding.

good work, holmger.

too bad for wayne, 1 of those 6 years isn't going to be spent playing hockey. nhl hockey anyway.
- hammarby31

So what does everyone think of the Simms re-signing? I really like it.
- FLYERSROCK!

And no, this does not (frank) the Flyers over cap wise. Hartnell will want 5M, they'll give him that, Kimmo's cap hit will go down considerable, prob down to around 4.5M, and then Shelley, Walker, Lilja are all gone.

So were good cap wise.

@tpanotchCSN: Source tells http://CSNPhilly.com that Simmonds deal has an AAV of $3.84 million

Even better!

So what does everyone think of the Simms re-signing? I really like it.
- FLYERSROCK!