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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Roster Spot Races -- Rinaldo, Sestito, Shelley
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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
yeah, like people are saying, its about the contrast between the sixers era under snider and now.

sad to say though, the flyers went from a whisker of being the team most likely to win it all to one that is less relevant than the 76ers.

- isaiah520

from what i can gather in this short conversation is he sat back and let the people running the team run it. Isn't that what people female dog at him for not doing with the flyers? damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 1:14 PM ET
As much as I dislike Shelley for his on-ice play, I think it would be more beneficial for the Flyers to keep him as the 13th forward solely for his locker room presence. With Jagr gone, the team needs more veteran presence and Shelley can fill that role as we all know.
- NickTheKid87

at some point tho, the training wheels have to come off for those that have been around for the past 4 or 5years.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
bleepin' union apologist.
- OrangeBlack27

Proudly bearing the label on the undershorts of justice.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
Who else are we over-paying? J-Bo, though overpaid, helps us during a season where we've lost Carle and will be missing Meszy for a good portion of the year. The salary is there.

The extra year on J-Bo's contract won't hut as much because Timonen will either be retired or come back at a much cheaper clip than he's currently signed at.

The J-Bo move, to me, is a no-brainer as long as we don't have to give up too much talent to get him.

- steelydan



The extra year can potentially hurt you. It could prevent the team from making a move in the future for a true top defenseman worth his Cap hit.

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
at some point tho, the training wheels have to come off for those that have been around for the past 4 or 5years.
- JoeRussomanno


I agree but the team is still very young and I think they are still at a point were they'd benefit from another strong locker room guy. But if push comes to shove then by all means waive Shelley.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
from what i can gather in this short conversation is he sat back and let the people running the team run it. Isn't that what people female dog at him for not doing with the flyers? damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess.
- JoeRussomanno

Well you can't give him credit for reigning over a trip to the finals AND say he sat back and let the management run the team can you... oh, you just did.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 1:18 PM ET
not nearly as bad as "will see" to start a sentence.
- JoeRussomanno


Supposably, there are worse beginnings to sentences.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:20 PM ET
Proudly bearing the label on the undershorts of justice.
- mayorofangrytown




much easier to be on don fehr's side than bob goodenow's side.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 1:20 PM ET
Well you can't give him credit for reigning over a trip to the finals AND say he sat back and let the management run the team can you... oh, you just did.

- mayorofangrytown

I did tag credit to him for that finals appearance yes, but evidently he was not involved of the running of the sixers. I don't know which one is true but it's starting to look like what he gets criticized for not doing with the Flyers he did with the sixers and still gets criticized, oh well. Just didn't think it was fair that someone in the media felt a shot at the best owner in town was warranted because the Sixers made a trade and actually got value for a change.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
Supposably, there are worse beginnings to sentences.
- Flyskippy

indeed
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:26 PM ET
fehr point
- feelingkettle


NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
Guys should I order lunch from Golden Lake chinese restaurant on Market street?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
at some point tho, the training wheels have to come off for those that have been around for the past 4 or 5years.
- JoeRussomanno

I see no reason why there shouldn't be a veteran locker room presence every season. I don't see it as training wheels at all.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:33 PM ET
Guys should I order lunch from Golden Lake chinese restaurant on Market street?
- NickTheKid87

absolutely
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
I see no reason why there shouldn't be a veteran locker room presence every season. I don't see it as training wheels at all.
- BulliesPhan87



I think there is a good chance that the Flyers choose to honor Shelley's contract and the 3rd year.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
absolutely
- Crimsoninja


Done. Getting general tso chicken/cat lunch special $5.95
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:35 PM ET


much easier to be on don fehr's side than bob goodenow's side.

- OrangeBlack27

It's easier to run a union when the players care what's in the CBA as much as they care about missing a pay check. They blew up their own union during the lock out then did such a great job of recognizing what had gone wrong that they blew it up two more times within a year.

They had no chance of getting anything done in the last CBA. It was disheartening to see how easily they were manipulated both internally and by the League.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
I see no reason why there shouldn't be a veteran locker room presence every season. I don't see it as training wheels at all.
- BulliesPhan87

how many do you need tho? there's briere, timonen etc. at some point guys like Giroux, Hartnell and Coburn have to step into that role as well, they've been around for some long playoff runs and suffered through important teammates going down, all the stuff that adds to the XP column.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
Guys should I order lunch from Golden Lake chinese restaurant on Market street?
- NickTheKid87

Shelley is a great presence in the locker room, so yes.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
Done. Getting general tso chicken/cat lunch special $5.95
- NickTheKid87

nice


please post your fortune later
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
I think there is a good chance that the Flyers choose to honor Shelley's contract and the 3rd year.
- MJL

I really don't have a problem with him on the team. I like to make some jokes from time to time but you need guys like him for your 4th line.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
Always, BP. Always.
- Flyskippy

Humor? In this thread?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
Shelley is a great presence in the locker room, so yes.
- feelingkettle


What sucks is that Chinese food never ends up being a great presence in my stomach. Tastes good though
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
nice


please post your fortune later

- Crimsoninja


Will do.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
Will do.
- NickTheKid87

lucky numbs as well ty
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