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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
Really? Up until this past season I would say the majority of fans wanted him run out of town....including the first month of this past season.
- MBFlyerfan


Wonder if a majority of them even paid attention for long spans or just listened to sports radio to gain their opinion.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 20 @ 7:21 PM ET
You'd also like to make sure he's able to maintain his health/level of play... and leave open the option of trading for a more long-term solution at some point.
- Tomahawk


They can always ask Timmo to go on a year to year contract a la Lidstrom during his last two seasons. That leaves options open for both.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 7:23 PM ET
Wonder if a majority of them even paid attention for long spans or just listened to sports radio to gain their opinion.
- ob18



All of them are idiots.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 20 @ 7:29 PM ET
Wonder if a majority of them even paid attention for long spans or just listened to sports radio to gain their opinion.
- ob18


There were a couple of years, most notably the 09-10 season, when he wasn't playing up to his contract. On a cap strapped team, he was an obvious target.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 20 @ 7:29 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

No move clause for Flyers Scott Hartnell.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 20 @ 7:32 PM ET
i wouldnt say that

every other year he takes alot of heat (and sometimes its deserved). but ive seen fans of other teams on this site covet him for their teams for years now.

remember last year at this time he was looked at by Flyer fans as the odd man out and many wanted him traded

- Crimsoninja

I believe the term used was 'redundant'.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Aug 20 @ 7:44 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

No move clause for Flyers Scott Hartnell.

- FLYERSROCK!


Makes sense. As you would expect. I am happy. Hartsy is a true flyer and now for a cap hit slightly higher than ville for poor buff!
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 20 @ 7:54 PM ET
They can always ask Timmo to go on a year to year contract a la Lidstrom during his last two seasons. That leaves options open for both.
- 77rams


I see us leaning on Kimmo for a few years more as inevitable. We are going to need him and aside from hoping the over 35 rules change, I don't see the point of dancing around the subject. I think if Kimmo wants a 2 year deal, Homer's going to give it to him. In all his years playing for us, I think he's has been our best player.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 7:55 PM ET
I believe the term used was 'redundant'.
- BulliesPhan87


Yep, that was one of the better ones. Replaceable was another word.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 20 @ 7:55 PM ET
So anyone think our D is going to get so thin this year we see Matt Walker, Blake Kessel or Danny Syvert? Keep in mind, we have cap space.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 20 @ 7:59 PM ET
Yep, that was one of the better ones. Replaceable was another word.
- MBFlyerfan


Give me some Hartnell with a little of Ryan Clowe on the side.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:00 PM ET
I see us leaning on Kimmo for a few years more as inevitable. We are going to need him and aside from hoping the over 35 rules change, I don't see the point of dancing around the subject. I think if Kimmo wants a 2 year deal, Homer's going to give it to him. In all his years playing for us, I think he's has been our best player.
- flyler


Progressing with one year deals isn't dancing around the subject. Why tie yourself up with an older player with a sizable Cap hit for more then one year if you don't have to?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:20 PM ET
So anyone think our D is going to get so thin this year we see Matt Walker, Blake Kessel or Danny Syvert? Keep in mind, we have cap space.
- flyler


MAB/Gus/Manning, definitely.

Syvret, probably.

Konan/Lauridsen, maybe.

Walker, if they're desperate.

Kessel, not unless he pulls a MAB.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:25 PM ET
I believe the term used was 'redundant'.
- BulliesPhan87


i thought it was gutless puke?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 8:28 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

No move clause for Flyers Scott Hartnell.

- FLYERSROCK!


And if that surprises anyone, I'd have to say welcome to the world of being a NHL fan.

Had to know he was getting a full NTC, at the very least.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 8:30 PM ET
Really? Up until this past season I would say the majority of fans wanted him run out of town....including the first month of this past season.
- MBFlyerfan


I had a lot of issues with Hartnell. But the guy won me over, big time. I just hate having to agree with MOAT
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 20 @ 8:31 PM ET
Three major trades in Flyers history took place on this date:

1982 -- Flyers trade Ken Linseman, Greg Adams and 1983 first-round (David Jensen) and third-round (Leif Karlsson) to Hartford for Mark Howe and 1983 third-round pick (Derrick Smith).

1997 -- Tampa Bay agrees not match offer sheet to RFA center Chris Gratton, receiving four compensatory first-round picks (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001) from the Flyers. The four picks were immediately traded back to Philadelphia in exchange for Mikael Renberg and Karl Dykhuis.

2001 -- Flyers trade Eric Lindros to New York Rangers for Kim Johnsson, Jan Hlavac, Pavel Brendl and 2003 3rd-round pick (Stefan Ruzicka).
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:35 PM ET


2001 -- Flyers trade Eric Lindros to New York Rangers for Kim Johnsson, Jan Hlavac, Pavel Brendl and 2003 3rd-round pick (Stefan Ruzicka).

- bmeltzer





but ya the epitome of bittersweet
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 20 @ 8:35 PM ET
Really? Up until this past season I would say the majority of fans wanted him run out of town....including the first month of this past season.
- MBFlyerfan


Those fans, however many, probably underrated him.

He is an above average power forward and excels as a mosquito type. Good around net (ten feet and in). Not always the most discipline and a little bit of a clown. But overall a good contract IMO.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 8:40 PM ET



but ya the epitome of bittersweet

- Crimsoninja


Yeah, that Jan Hlavac was born to be a Flyer.

I would have posted a pic of Hlavac as a Flyer, but the most common result when I googled Jan Hlavac Flyers are pictures of Lindros
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:55 PM ET
Yeah, that Jan Hlavac was born to be a Flyer.


- Jsaquella


As soon as he was traded to the Flyers he forgot how to play Hockey.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 8:58 PM ET
As soon as he was traded to the Flyers he forgot how to play Hockey.
- MJL


Funny thing was, Brashear outscored him the year they were traded for one another, 32 to 31 points.

Hlavac was horrible.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:48 PM ET
Awesome, 6 more years to hate Sideshow Fartsmell.

Good signing, as much as I hate to admit it, Bozo the Forward is a beast.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 9:50 PM ET
More Iggles troubles...their best tackler tonight? DeSean Jackson
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Aug 20 @ 10:06 PM ET
Eerily quiet on the d-man front for the Flyers, almost too quiet.
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