If anything we have the Winter olympics to keep us busy in January I guess. Another thing i don't like, Pro athletes competing in an amateur event. The olympics should not include pro athletes in any event. Just my opine.

Just curious.. how would a full year lockout affect the 2013 draft?

Can't wait for the "lockout" to start.

Not really, he's just expecting the players to curl up and accept his terms, like they did in 2005.

Here's a story about how Bettman handled the talks with the CBC for the HNIC contract

http://www2.macleans.ca/2...s-nhl-goes-into-overtime/


Here's a good story on why it's not a split with the NHLPA that's the issue, but rather revenue sharing between teams that is the real problem facing the NHL

http://www.nationalpost.c...lks-meant-to-hurt-players

Sad thing is, according to the National Post article, a full third of the NHL's revenue losses were due to Phoenix and Columbus, and that the profits made by Montreal and Toronto eclipse the losses endured by all the other teams combined.
- Jsaquella

I wanna punch the guy right in the neck. The guy is ALWAYS scheming...

Just curious.. how would a full year lockout affect the 2013 draft?
- pharcyde

Pens would get the first three picks and our first.

If anything we have the Winter olympics to keep us busy in January I guess. Another thing i don't like, Pro athletes competing in an amateur event. The olympics should not include pro athletes in any event. Just my opine.
- JoeRussomanno

Winter Olympics are in 2014...

If the full season is lost, do the players who were scheduled to be UFA's at the end of the 2012-2013 season lose that status?

What a friggin mess. In the end the fans are the ones who get the shaft as usual.

If the full season is lost, do the players who were scheduled to be UFA's at the end of the 2012-2013 season lose that status?

What a friggin mess. In the end the fans are the ones who get the shaft as usual.
- PLindbergh31

Depends on how they are qualifying for UFA status. By age or by number of Accrued Seasons. Also depends on the new CBA. I don't see the entire Season being lost. But you never know.

If the full season is lost, do the players who were scheduled to be UFA's at the end of the 2012-2013 season lose that status?

What a friggin mess. In the end the fans are the ones who get the shaft as usual.
- PLindbergh31

That's a good question, I wonder if the answer hinges on the terms of the new CBA? Either way, this whole situation sucks.

That's a good question, I wonder if the answer hinges on the terms of the new CBA? Either way, this whole situation sucks.
- BulliesPhan87

I'd imagine their contracts expire on time and they become UFa's like nothing ever happened.

If the full season is lost, do the players who were scheduled to be UFA's at the end of the 2012-2013 season lose that status?

What a friggin mess. In the end the fans are the ones who get the shaft as usual.
- PLindbergh31

Just watch football.

Just watch football.
- stveshdy

- JoeRussomanno

Thats exactly what I think of the NHL and NHLPA. Enjoy the lockout.

when we moved up to Alaska, we spent the night in Smithers and had some good food and drink. beautiful place.

The NHLPA would never agree to contraction. If you killed off 6 teams, you're losing at least 138 union jobs.

That said, I am all for contraction.
- Jsaquella

While straight contraction is a non-starter, the PA would agree to relocation of the struggling franchises to more stable/lucrative markets, and/or the folding of struggling franchises followed immediately by expansion into Canada... they'd love for HRR to keep shooting up without sacrificing jobs.

With the NBC contract secured, it'll be easier for Bettman to back step from his insistence on maximizing the NHL's geographical footprint in the US -- there will probably be 8-9 teams in Canada by the end of the decade.

just get some new pants already, would 'ya?
- hammarby31

hey those white shells are hot!

Absolutely! However, the drive from S. Jersey to Glens Falls, NY, will make it tough. The Flyers need to find a way to get the Phantoms back in the area. I propose basing the team in Trenton and creating an ECHL affiliate in Allentown or somewhere else nearby.
- BOSS_TWEED

I may check them out when they are in Hershey and Wilkes. that is another aspect of not being in philly that sucks. we at least had the phantoms for the last lockout. I went to quite a few games and all of the playoffs

While straight contraction is a non-starter, the PA would agree to relocation of the struggling franchises to more stable/lucrative markets, and/or the folding of struggling franchises followed immediately by expansion into Canada... they'd love for HRR to keep shooting up without sacrificing jobs.

With the NBC contract secured, it'll be easier for Bettman to back step from his insistence on maximizing the NHL's geographical footprint in the US -- there will probably be 8-9 teams in Canada by the end of the decade.
- Tomahawk

That is infinitely more feasible. I'd also be willing to see that happen. The Coyotes are a mess. They have had 15 years to see if the rose would bloom in the desert, and it hasn't. The combination of the strong Canadian dollar, plus the fanatic level of fan interest would turn the Coyotes as a organiztion bleeding money into a financially strong Quebec Nordique team with a renewed strong rivalry with the Habs

That's a good question, I wonder if the answer hinges on the terms of the new CBA? Either way, this whole situation sucks.
- BulliesPhan87

Last time, the year was burned off the contract.

Just curious.. how would a full year lockout affect the 2013 draft?
- pharcyde

Draft lottery, weighted on the finish of the teams in 2011-12.

Condolences to Danny Briere and his family upon the passing of his mother.

That is infinitely more feasible. I'd also be willing to see that happen. The Coyotes are a mess. They have had 15 years to see if the rose would bloom in the desert, and it hasn't. The combination of the strong Canadian dollar, plus the fanatic level of fan interest would turn the Coyotes as a organiztion bleeding money into a financially strong Quebec Nordique team with a renewed strong rivalry with the Habs
- Jsaquella

Why do we need two teams in Florida, too? Aren't one of those or both struggling? Just no common sense.

Thats exactly what I think of the NHL and NHLPA. Enjoy the lockout.
- stveshdy

I will not enjoy the lockout but I haven't enjoyed the NFL in a while either, I'd rather drain my own septic tank than watch that mess.

Condolences to Danny Briere and his family upon the passing of his mother.
- Jsaquella

+1

Draft lottery held in secret, weighted on the finish of the teams in 2011-12, but with 1st-overall gifted to the Pens.
- Jsaquella

Fixed