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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
I suppose we'll see, what with the CBA uncertainty. He won't be cheap though, that's for sure.
- BulliesPhan87

5 years 40 million if he keeps up the pace. More if he continues his upward spiral.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
You will be yelling at him by New Years (if theres a season).
- stveshdy


Nah. I like Hartnell. Undisciplined at times with the stick infractions, he totally won me over the night he threw his glove. I was howling. Hartnell is a very likable guy when he is on the team you root for.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Source: HARTNELL's cap his has AVV of $4.750 mill per year

let this be the case. Whatcha gonna do then haters!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
Cap hit is 4.75M, not 5.5M!!!!!!!
Anybody gonna bash now!?!!?

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Source: HARTNELL's cap his has AVV of $4.750 mill per year

- FLYERSROCK!

TP...clap clap...TP...clap clap....
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Source: HARTNELL's cap his has AVV of $4.750 mill per year

let this be the case. Whatcha gonna do then haters!

- JoeRussomanno

Leight.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
Cap hit is 4.75M, not 5.5M!!!!!!!
Anybody gonna bash now!?!!?

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Source: HARTNELL's cap his has AVV of $4.750 mill per year

- FLYERSROCK!


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
Well, the attitude here on Hartnell has changed a lot since I was getting screamed down every time someone tried to trade him for a pair of new skate blades.


- mayorofangrytown



Short memory = blissful existence.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
Little high, but I like what Scotty too Hottie brings every night. And ridiculously durable.
- Deasr1


It's really not high. He could of gone to free agency and gotten more. Especially if he repeats last Season. This is a really good deal for the Flyers in my opinion.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
God I REALLY Hope TP is finally right on this one... that low cap hit would wash out the "too many years"
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
God I REALLY Hope TP is finally right on this one... that low cap hit would wash out the "too many years"
- FLYERSROCK!

Leight.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN

Source: HARTNELL's cap his has AVV of $4.750 mill per year

let this be the case. Whatcha gonna do then haters!

- JoeRussomanno


With Mccrossin in that screenshot, I'm surprised Hartnell's ear didn't fall off on his next shift.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Flyers signs Scott Hartnel 6 year / 33 million
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
Well, the attitude here on Hartnell has changed a lot since I was getting screamed down every time someone tried to trade him for a pair of new skate blades.


- mayorofangrytown

I'll openly admit I was one of many calling for his immediate trade when things were going badly during the 2009-10 season. I'm very glad to have been wrong.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
If you join the military to play sports you must be hard up for cash and really not that good anyway. The leagues you're talking about aren't quite "Pro" leagues, not much different than collegiate sports.
- JoeRussomanno

What we are talking about is how the move went from amateurs to pros in the Olympics. In the 60s and 70s the Eastern Block (and even West German) teams were largely composed of career military who were recruited, developed, and trained for their athletics prowess in service of the motherland. They were professional athletes who were nominally amateur. The rules were changed so that professionals are now the norm. Perhaps you aren't old enough to remember.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
Short memory = blissful existence.
- Tomahawk

That and they've acquired new scapegoats to destroy
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
I'll openly admit I was one of many calling for his immediate trade when things were going badly during the 2009-10 season. I'm very glad to have been wrong.
- BulliesPhan87


I'm with you. No need to hide about it. Did he get a NTC?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
He's going to command elite player money. I'm expecting over $8M AAV.
- stveshdy


If the League has it's way and the CBA is changed to limit term years and eliminate signing bonuses. Giroux's Cap hit will be much higher then that.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Flyers signs Scott Hartnel 6 year / 28.5 million

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod

Hartnell's cap hit is $5.5M per season.

WTF is going on??
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
What we are talking about is how the move went from amateurs to pros in the Olympics. In the 60s and 70s the Eastern Block (and even West German) teams were largely composed of career military who were recruited, developed, and trained for their athletics prowess in service of the motherland. They were professional athletes who were nominally amateur. The rules were changed so that professionals are now the norm. Perhaps you aren't old enough to remember.
- bodiva88

No I'm not old enough to remember the 60's and 70's wow. That doesn't change the fact that Pro athletes in the Olympics bastardizes the event.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:51 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Flyers signs Scott Hartnel 6 year / 28.5 million

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod

Hartnell's cap hit is $5.5M per season.

WTF is going on??

- FLYERSROCK!

HockeyyInsiderrr:

Hartnell signed, 8 years, 8mil per. #confoimed
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:51 PM ET
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Flyers signs Scott Hartnel 6 year / 28.5 million

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod

Hartnell's cap hit is $5.5M per season.

WTF is going on??

- FLYERSROCK!


I would trust National guys before the Philly Stooges. Wait for Bob M or Dreger to weigh in.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:51 PM ET
I would trust National guys before the Philly Stooges. Wait for Bob M or Dreger to weigh in.
- PLindbergh31

He changed it. TP is right.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:51 PM ET
If the League has it's way and the CBA is changed to limit term years and eliminate signing bonuses. Giroux's Cap hit will be much higher then that.
- MJL


The Flyers will have to trade away players to keep him or go over a the luxury tax (which could be in place w/ CBA).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
He changed it. TP is right.
- feelingkettle


Excellent! Even better.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
The Flyers will have to trade away players to keep him or go over a the luxary tax (which could be in place w/ CBA).
- stveshdy


If there's a luxury tax, you know the Flyers will be over it.
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