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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Thats the world today. Sensitive. Not talking about death but just in everyday life. Have to watch everything you say today b/c people are looking to make a quick buck.
- stveshdy


No question about it.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
The Iggles won't win five games this year. Vick is going to be carted off sometime in the near future, the offensive line doesn't know how to protect him at all.

I can't believe the love affair with Vick--contrast that with how poorly Bryz has been treated by this city, it amazes me. You'd think Vick had won five super bowls and participated in a coronation as the next Pope, while Bryz kicks puppies and makes three-year-olds cry by dumping their ice cream sandwich in the garbage can.

- KGBflyers10

Forget Bryz.. People HATED McNabb. The guy is the best QB to put on the jersey, and put up his numbers with no-name receivers over the majority of his career. He was also a very fun loving guy who seemed like a pretty cool dude. I have never heard a bad thing about him from people who knew him when he was here.


Yet Vick gets out of prison, signs here, and is the best!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
It used to be extremely common -- less so today, but still not uncommon -- for European players to speak their minds very candidly with their home media because they knew there was little to no chance of the comments coming back on them in North America.
- bmeltzer


Are his comments good for the team? I can't imagine this plays well in a locker room that already had issues (reportedly).
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Forget Bryz.. People HATED McNabb. The guy is the best QB to put on the jersey, and put up his numbers with no-name receivers over the majority of his career. He was also a very fun loving guy who seemed like a pretty cool dude. I have never heard a bad thing about him from people who knew him when he was here.


Yet Vick gets out of prison, signs here, and is the best!

- jak521

It was his passive aggressiveness and inability to forget about being booed at the draft that did him in. Throwing up in the huddle in the superbowl didn't help either.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
It was his passive aggressiveness and inability to forget about being booed at the draft that did him in. Throwing up in the huddle in the superbowl didn't help either.
- JoeRussomanno

Funny.. that never really happened.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Rick Tocchet‏@RealRocket22

Chris Therien just signed a 10 year deal to stay on radio color for Flyers ......everyone signing long term deals.

This true?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:53 AM ET
Rick Tocchet‏@RealRocket22

Chris Therien just signed a 10 year deal to stay on radio color for Flyers ......everyone signing long term deals.

This true?

- stveshdy


No idea. Who listens to games on the radio these days? I don't even live within range of WIP. The little I have heard of Saunders and Therien they are awful.

I long for the days of Prism and Gene Hart. I wish the Flyers never let Doc Emrick go. It's hard to like him as good as he is, because he's the voice of the Devils.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:53 AM ET
It was his passive aggressiveness and inability to forget about being booed at the draft that did him in. Throwing up in the huddle in the superbowl didn't help either.
- JoeRussomanno

Can't blame the guy for playing through illness, but he did come across as a bit self important. Still, he didn't deserve the hate he got. As for Vick, I guess I'm blissfully ignorant of the lovefest for him. He's every bit as mediocre as this Eagles team is (being generous here).
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
No idea. Who listens to games on the radio these days? I don't even live within range of WIP. The little I have heard of Saunders and Therien they are awful.
- PLindbergh31

Saunders calls a very good game IMO... Bundy gets too emotional at times, but does a decent job.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
Can't blame the guy for playing through illness, but he did come across as a bit self important. Still, he didn't deserve the hate he got. As for Vick, I guess I'm blissfully ignorant of the lovefest for him. He's every bit as mediocre as this Eagles team is (being generous here).
- BulliesPhan87


I can't see the Eagles extending Big Red's contract if the Eagles dont make the playoffs.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
No idea. Who listens to games on the radio these days? I don't even live within range of WIP. The little I have heard of Saunders and Therien they are awful.
- PLindbergh31

I do! Through the stretch, I have to work late almost every night. I really like the radio guys.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
Funny.. that never really happened.
- jak521

according to people there it did. I don't care either way just stating what happened with him. Heckuva quarterback no doubt my own personal criticism with him was it seemed like he never had that big postseason comeback in the 4th quarter. Or that late game drive to win it. Whenever he had those opportunities it ended up in an interception or incomplete. But at the end of the day he's no doubt the best Quarterback to play for the Eagles since 1960.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Aug 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
Funny.. that never really happened.
- jak521


Really? Cause it did. He suffered a concussion during the Super Bowl and played through it.

What really irked me about McNabb is that the team would go three and out and he would jog to the sidelines with a huge smile on his face as if it wasn't a big deal.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
I can't see the Eagles extending Big Red's contract if the Eagles dont make the playoffs.
- stveshdy

The team's been rather loyal to Andy, I wouldn't be surprised if he was extended anyway.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
Can't blame the guy for playing through illness, but he did come across as a bit self important. Still, he didn't deserve the hate he got. As for Vick, I guess I'm blissfully ignorant of the lovefest for him. He's every bit as mediocre as this Eagles team is (being generous here).
- BulliesPhan87

In the Super Bowl he wasnt sick... and he never vomited. Total myth. Also funny that most people forget that immediately following the hit to the ribs which caused the GASPING for air... McNabb tossed a beautiful 30 yd TD pass to Greg Lewis.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
No idea. Who listens to games on the radio these days? I don't even live within range of WIP. The little I have heard of Saunders and Therien they are awful.

I long for the days of Prism and Gene Hart. I wish the Flyers never let Doc Emrick go. It's hard to like him as good as he is, because he's the voice of the Devils.

- PLindbergh31

I actually like Saunders in a way.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Aug 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
according to people there it did. I don't care either way just stating what happened with him. Heckuva quarterback no doubt my own personal criticism with him was it seemed like he never had that big postseason comeback in the 4th quarter. Or that late game drive to win it. Whenever he had those opportunities it ended up in an interception or incomplete. But at the end of the day he's no doubt the best Quarterback to play for the Eagles since 1960.
- JoeRussomanno


Umm, 4th and 26? Hello...

You really think that was all Freddie Mitchell on that play?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
I do! Through the stretch, I have to work late almost every night. I really like the radio guys.
- BulliesPhan87


Yes, folks that work nights would listen to radio. Forgot about that. I haven't really heard enough of the radio guys to form an educated opinion. Saunders has a voice to me that is nails on a chalkboard.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
according to people there it did. I don't care either way just stating what happened with him. Heckuva quarterback no doubt my own personal criticism with him was it seemed like he never had that big postseason comeback in the 4th quarter. Or that late game drive to win it. Whenever he had those opportunities it ended up in an interception or incomplete. But at the end of the day he's no doubt the best Quarterback to play for the Eagles since 1960.
- JoeRussomanno


People only care about one thing Championships. He won ZERO and therefore wouldnt be loved in Philly. He was a successful QB no question about it but never won the big one.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
Really? Cause it did. He suffered a concussion during the Super Bowl and played through it.

What really irked me about McNabb is that the team would go three and out and he would jog to the sidelines with a huge smile on his face as if it wasn't a big deal.

- KGBflyers10

Never puked. He got hit in the ribs by Teddi Bruschi and suffered a costal cartilage strain. Had the wind knocked out of him and went into a coughing fit.

Even Westbrook has stated that. Also, there is no footage of him puking, but there is of him coughing and gasping.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
Umm, 4th and 26? Hello...

You really think that was all Freddie Mitchell on that play?

- KGBflyers10

That's one play and quite a terrific one for sure. What happened the next week?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
Saunders calls a very good game IMO... Bundy gets too emotional at times, but does a decent job.
- jak521


I guess considering the pool to work hockey radio they are fine. Basically the guys who do radio aren't good enough to do TV.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yes, folks that work nights would listen to radio. Forgot about that. I haven't really heard enough of the radio guys to form an educated opinion. Saunders has a voice to me that is nails on a chalkboard.
- PLindbergh31

Perhaps Timmy's voice is an acquired taste

Fortunately, I got Comcast to throw in free basic cable when we switched over at the office, so I'll get to at least watch some of those games this season
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:59 AM ET
The team's been rather loyal to Andy, I wouldn't be surprised if he was extended anyway.
- BulliesPhan87


I think Lurie would of done it already when Andy's agent made those comments about extending him. He's had 13 years to win a championship. Hes been successful but this is what have you done for me lately type of league and its been awhile since they got far in the playoffs. I understand the loyalty and what happened with his son but its still a business and changes happen in the NFL.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
according to people there it did. I don't care either way just stating what happened with him. Heckuva quarterback no doubt my own personal criticism with him was it seemed like he never had that big postseason comeback in the 4th quarter. Or that late game drive to win it. Whenever he had those opportunities it ended up in an interception or incomplete. But at the end of the day he's no doubt the best Quarterback to play for the Eagles since 1960.
- JoeRussomanno

The next day, center Hank Fraley said of McNabb on Comcast Sportsnet’s Angelo Cataldi Show: “He gave it his all. He was almost puking in the huddle. One play had to be called by Freddie Mitchell because Donovan was mumbling because he was almost puking.”

Note the word almost. Twice.

Mitchell’s take, as quoted Feb. 9: “You could see that he was dealing with some kind of complication . . . I don’t know if it was breathing or what . . .

Note: “I don’t know if it was breathing or what.”

McNabb’s blanket denials on Feb. 9 at the Pro Bowl – “No, I wasn’t sick, and no, I didn’t throw up” – apparently failed to satisfy the doubters.

“No, Freddie did not call a play. I get the plays in my helmet, so he couldn’t call a play,” McNabb said.

Running back Brian Westbrook sided with that story. “He wasn’t sick. He was coughing a little, but he didn’t seem sick,” Westbrook said.

Other players were also asked. Guard Jermane Mayberry said he “didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary.” Receiver Greg Lewis spoke of “coughing . . . I thought he’d just lost his breath.” Guard Artis Hicks mentioned “gagging” to the Inquirer, saying of McNabb, “I thought he was going to throw up.” But he also told the Daily News: “It wasn’t nothing serious. . . . We all knew what he was trying to get out, and we went ahead and ran it.”
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