The difference of time on those hits not withstanding, the hit on Horton bears little resemblance to that hit on Sedin.
Brown's hit was more Solid Hockey Hit and less Predatory Hit. - OilHorse
I disagree. The only differences are position on the ice, and the momentum of the player who gets hit.
The Rome hit was open ice—always looks worse than a hit north-south on the boards.
Horton was also moving forward at the time, skating towards the hit—Sedin was standing still.
Both Rome and Brown's skates leave the ice upon impact. I don't consider that much of a factor, as neither launch towards the player before contact. Both were late.
Very similar hits other than the differences I pointed out.
Not all "hockey"cocks count down from 20:00, some clocks count up from 0:00. To be correct you should have said all NHL clocks count down from 20:00, shows how much you know about hockey I guess... - 1970vintage
I didn't know they could count at all. Mine can't...not very high, at least.
Despite everyone trying to compare these two simply by stats, there are many variables that haven't come up.
Seguin entered the league on the third line. Hall was immediately given 1st line duties.
Hall averaged over 18 mins/game in his two seasons.
Seguin was brought along slower by the Bruins and only averaged 12 mins/game in his first season. In his second season, he averaged little under 17 mins/game
That right there will make up the difference in stats.
Seguin on the other hand is being brought up in a much better defensive system, as seen by his +34 rating this year. That's compared to Hall's -3.
Now one can argue that +/- stats can reflect your D, and your goaltending, but I believe it is also a very important stat for a C, who's the main forward that is supposed to be backchecking.
Despite the differences in Stats, I personally believe Seguin will be the better overall player in the long term, but Hall will produce better stats.
Why? Hall will be surrounded by high end talent which will help his stats, while Seguin will be continue to be regulated to second line duties in Boston for many more years. - ILoveLamp
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Aug 24 @ 8:37 AM ET
I disagree. The only differences are position on the ice, and the momentum of the player who gets hit.
The Rome hit was open ice—always looks worse than a hit north-south on the boards.
Horton was also moving forward at the time, skating towards the hit—Sedin was standing still.
Both Rome and Brown's skates leave the ice upon impact. I don't consider that much of a factor, as neither launch towards the player before contact. Both were late.
Very similar hits other than the differences I pointed out. - Fosco
I watched that Brown-Sedin hit and never saw Brown's feet leave the ice once during that collision. Rome gets fully off the ice.
Rome connects the head. Brown the shoulder.
The only reason the hit is at a different time then the hit is the clock changes at milliseconds before the collision. There is less than a second, less than 1/2 a second between the release of the puck and the contact. At the same time there was little time between the release and contact in the Rome-Horton hit also.
Brown's hit was cleaner because of the differences I pointed out.
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Aug 24 @ 8:40 AM ET
Not all "hockey" cocks count down from 20:00, some clocks count up from 0:00. To be correct you should have said all NHL clocks count down from 20:00, shows how much you know about hockey I guess... - 1970vintage
Which NHL arenas have such clocks? Please point them out to me.
I got the point across...just like you got your point across that you are talking about clocks, not dangly bits...but if that is what you wanna hang your hat on, be my guest.
i will say hall got overpaid ABIT.
but going with the market, there was no chance he was gonna make any less than low 5 mil, so adding abit to that for long term is a reasonable deal.
he scored 27 goals on a bad team in 61 games played. woulda broke 30, and 35 is far from unrealistic. i think eberle may be the more skilled sniper, but hall brings some things that are vital to the oilers that jordan cant.
of course he was paid on mostly potential, hes only 20 years old and only played 2 seasons.
but its a HUGE potential. not to mention avoiding any possible offer sheets seeing as we'd have 2 rfa's next year.
And how has seguin been better? i hear this from time to time from the haters, and am still mystified.
hall scored 2 less goals in 20 less games played, on a much much worse team. was probably the best player on the team for the most part in his rookie year, while seguin didnt make an impact at all until the playoffs. he may have been brought along much more slowly, but he struggled mightily early.
and please dont use the cup argument..its ridiculous.
i think it comes down to no matter who you pick or what u do, the haters will always look for ways to criticize.
as an oiler fan, i couldnt be happier that we picked hall over seguin and locked him up for 7 years. - hugefemale dog77
Just because one (me for example) thinks Seguin is a better player than Hall, it doesn't follow that it's a 'Hall hating'. Is it that you believe anyone who thinks differently than you is a "hater". To me, (nothing personal) that's an outright stupid way of thinking. I happen to like both and would take both on 'my' team, but choose one as better than the other. That's all there is to that.
still 17:18 Brown is coasting towards Sedin, Sedin passes puck
@ 17:17 Brown delivers the check, feet are still on the ground. Shoulders together, low elbows.
Clean hit. - OilHorse
Sedin was fine with the hit. That being said, Brown is 'always' looking for a cheap shot opportunity. That's likely why many question his intentions on that one. Brown is a potential dirty cheap shot artiste on every shift he's on -- players must keep an eye out for him. Could be exactly why the Canucks have been interested in getting him.
I watched that Brown-Sedin hit and never saw Brown's feet leave the ice once during that collision. Rome gets fully off the ice.
Rome connects the head. Brown the shoulder.
The only reason the hit is at a different time then the hit is the clock changes at milliseconds before the collision. There is less than a second, less than 1/2 a second between the release of the puck and the contact. At the same time there was little time between the release and contact in the Rome-Horton hit also.
Brown's hit was cleaner because of the differences I pointed out. - OilHorse
Look at it again. Browns skates leave the ice. If you check one of Ian's last blogs, an LA fan posted both hits, and it's very clear he leaves the ice on impact.
That being said, both leave the ice after contact is made, neither launch themselves, so both are fine in that aspect.
Rome makes connection slightly higher than Brown only due to the fact that Horton is in a hunched position while he watches his pass, and Sedin is fully upright.
If those Evander Kane requests a trade rumors are true, time to throw out a package Gillis. Someone like an Edler would have to be included I'd imagine. - AlexF
Kane is a head case and will likely cause friction (the wrong kind) in 'the room'. As good as he may be, Gillis should pass. The price would be too high. I doubt he's even available -- in any way.
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Aug 24 @ 9:36 PM ET
Look at it again. Browns skates leave the ice. If you check one of Ian's last blogs, an LA fan posted both hits, and it's very clear he leaves the ice on impact.
That being said, both leave the ice after contact is made, neither launch themselves, so both are fine in that aspect.
Rome makes connection slightly higher than Brown only due to the fact that Horton is in a hunched position while he watches his pass, and Sedin is fully upright. - Fosco
No he doesn't...not in a launching and at most his feet leave about the height of a skate blade...on only for the blink of an eye. It is the contact that causes his feet to lift.
Compare to the 38 second spot of this video. Where Rome drives up and the momentum casues his to lift much higher and longer than Brown.
Now I am not saying that Rome pulled a Torres hit where he is launching like a rocket. But there is little to compare.
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Aug 25 @ 3:29 AM ET
No he doesn't...not in a launching and at most his feet leave about the height of a skate blade...on only for the blink of an eye. It is the contact that causes his feet to lift.
Compare to the 38 second spot of this video. Where Rome drives up and the momentum casues his to lift much higher and longer than Brown.
Now I am not saying that Rome pulled a Torres hit where he is launching like a rocket. But there is little to compare. - OilHorse
I didn't know they could count at all. Mine can't...not very high, at least. 
