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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
As far as Doan goes, especially after seeing the reported offer, I can firmly say that there's no way in hell I would do it. That being said, if they did end up landing Doan for that money, I'm not sure I can bring myself to be too mad about it.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 1:17 PM ET
till you find out shes lame in bed ala ville leino
- hubie



bingo
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 1:17 PM ET
As far as Doan goes, especially after seeing the reported offer, I can firmly say that there's no way in hell I would do it. That being said, if they did end up landing Doan for that money, I'm not sure I can bring myself to be too mad about it.
- buffalofan19



Well said my friend.
Schmoop
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.18.2012

Aug 24 @ 1:22 PM ET
David Backes: 4.5 Million
Shane Doan: 7.5 Million
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Aug 24 @ 1:28 PM ET
I personally enjoy the Doan blogs and believe there should be more ...Can we get another one tonight Garth?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
I personally enjoy the Doan blogs and believe there should be more ...Can we get another one tonight Garth?
- keatondixon

i would like the occasional statsny and/or O'reilly offersheet blog sprinkled in though
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 1:56 PM ET
Pre season hockey > Pre season football
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Aug 24 @ 1:58 PM ET
From the last thread:



If you offer sheet O'Reilly anything less than $5 million and he accepts, Colorado will match with 100% certainty. The reason they're not offering it is because they want to pay him less, and while there is no offer sheet out there, the Avalanche have all the leverage. Why would you pay a guy $5 or $6 million per year when you can possibly get away with paying him $4 million? If another team, be it Buffalo or someone else, comes in and and gives him an offer sheet, the Avalanche lose their leverage, and then they have no choice to pay him. Look at what the Flyers offered Shea Weber. They had to structure the deal so that, at the very least, it would hurt the Predators if they matched it, and make it tempting to walk away. Look at what the Oilers offered Vanek, and then Penner. In order to successfully poach a restricted free agent, you have to offer a contract that tows the line of absurd.

- buffalofan19


Flyers did the Predators a favor. The reason Weber signed the offersheet was because

A) He wouldnt have a problem playing in Philadelphia

B) He wasnt going to get front loaded $ from Nashville.

Him signing the contract got him a long term deal in Nashville but with front loaded money. The Flyers almost get a player that would make them a really dangerous team, but Nashville and Weber get what they want in the end.

When all things are said and done, Nashville did well to keep two of their big three players who had the potential to leave.

Much like the O'Reilly situation and what you have said, the Avs are trying to do a deal on their terms because they hold the cards right now (much like the Ennis situation). If a team comes in and forces their hand, they will play ball. Until then, why pay the ceiling when you dont have to.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Aug 24 @ 2:03 PM ET
Pre season hockey > Pre season football
- Buffalo--Sabres


there isnt much worse than pre season anything
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
there isnt much worse than pre season anything
- hubie



Hockey at least resembles hockey. Pre-football, I dont even know what to call it.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Aug 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
Hockey at least resembles hockey. Pre-football, I dont even know what to call it.
- Buffalo--Sabres


correct at least in hockey young players can showcase themselves nfl what really are you looking for the 4th de spot comon
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
David Backes: 4.5 Million
Shane Doan: 7.5 Million

- Schmoop



So, to avoid any embarrassment to our organization with an overpayment to Shane Doan, you'll trade us David Backes then?



DEAL!!!

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 24 @ 2:37 PM ET
Yost has an awesome blog up.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
correct at least in hockey young players can showcase themselves nfl what really are you looking for the 4th de spot comon
- hubie



Plus in hockey, the only goal is to score goals. If you start sandbagging, things get harder on and pucks start going in your net. In football you can drag ass on offense on purpose.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Aug 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
As far as Doan goes, especially after seeing the reported offer, I can firmly say that there's no way in hell I would do it. That being said, if they did end up landing Doan for that money, I'm not sure I can bring myself to be too mad about it.
- buffalofan19

Would sign Doan in a minute.
Dont care about the contract.
Big market clubs with rich owners find ways of getting rid of the bad part of that contract
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Aug 24 @ 3:26 PM ET
Would sign Doan in a minute.
Dont care about the contract.
Big market clubs with rich owners find ways of getting rid of the bad part of that contract

- hafgod


I cant think of any big market teams who have tried to bury a 35+ contract with the terms associated with Doan.

Even Pronger in Philiadelphia was for 2.5M less per season and he is one of the best defensemen of his generation.

Huge risk for a reward that is very far from certain. Perhaps if the G&G boys were 2 years further along in their development and Armia was ready to join the club in the event the Sabres moved somebody like Vanek to make the cap room.

I think the timing is off and I think that the investment is way over the top.

Does this make the Sabres legit contenders? In my opinon it does not, that is the only way you can justify paying Doan that money. The Sabres arent quite in the position yet to make that splash move that is the final piece. They need to hold back and let things play out.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:26 PM ET
Big news in the football world


http://sports.yahoo.com/b...en-13-150606231--nfl.html


Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:31 PM ET
I cant think of any big market teams who have tried to bury a 35+ contract with the terms associated with Doan.

Even Pronger in Philiadelphia was for 2.5M less per season and he is one of the best defensemen of his generation.

Huge risk for a reward that is very far from certain. Perhaps if the G&G boys were 2 years further along in their development and Armia was ready to join the club in the event the Sabres moved somebody like Vanek to make the cap room.

I think the timing is off and I think that the investment is way over the top.

Does this make the Sabres legit contenders? In my opinon it does not, that is the only way you can justify paying Doan that money. The Sabres arent quite in the position yet to make that splash move that is the final piece. They need to hold back and let things play out.

- Gunner Staal


"The Sabres arent quite in the position yet to make that splash move that is the final piece. They need to hold back and let things play out."


Totally 123% right.


Forgive me for being reduntant, but Sabres fans are enamored with the idea that we are now perpetually in the running for any player available. We don't care about the kill, we care about the thrill of the chase. Then, like last season, we wonder why it isn't working out. I know injuries were a factor, but I'm just sayin.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Aug 24 @ 3:34 PM ET
"The Sabres arent quite in the position yet to make that splash move that is the final piece. They need to hold back and let things play out."


Totally 123% right.


Forgive me for being reduntant, but Sabres fans are enamored with the idea that we are now perpetually in the running for any player available. We don't care about the kill, we care about the thrill of the chase. Then, like last season, we wonder why it isn't working out. I know injuries were a factor, but I'm just sayin.

- Buffalo--Sabres


The Sabres are the middle child
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Aug 24 @ 3:35 PM ET
Big news in the football world


http://sports.yahoo.com/b...en-13-150606231--nfl.html

- Buffalo--Sabres


Fitz is better than both
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
Fitz is better than both
- Gunner Staal



Media coverage bias. INSANE!


Anyhow, off to Canada I go! Peace ya'll.


hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:04 PM ET
I cant think of any big market teams who have tried to bury a 35+ contract with the terms associated with Doan.

Even Pronger in Philiadelphia was for 2.5M less per season and he is one of the best defensemen of his generation.

Huge risk for a reward that is very far from certain. Perhaps if the G&G boys were 2 years further along in their development and Armia was ready to join the club in the event the Sabres moved somebody like Vanek to make the cap room.

I think the timing is off and I think that the investment is way over the top.

Does this make the Sabres legit contenders? In my opinon it does not, that is the only way you can justify paying Doan that money. The Sabres arent quite in the position yet to make that splash move that is the final piece. They need to hold back and let things play out.

- Gunner Staal

I think he does.
The sabres are lacking leadership. He provides it. Saw him play some last year watched the playoffs he looked good. If there not contenders now then when. Three years from now Pommer is in his 30's free agent miller is past his prime and Vaneks a 30 year old FA. The time is now. They have a good D. A good goalie.
with doan really solid up the wing. I wiil take that over same old same old.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
"The Sabres arent quite in the position yet to make that splash move that is the final piece. They need to hold back and let things play out."


Totally 123% right.


Forgive me for being reduntant, but Sabres fans are enamored with the idea that we are now perpetually in the running for any player available. We don't care about the kill, we care about the thrill of the chase. Then, like last season, we wonder why it isn't working out. I know injuries were a factor, but I'm just sayin.

- Buffalo--Sabres

But when will they then. They have no young superstars that are developing there best forwards are late 20's goalie is same position.
Sabres2012CUP
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meh...., NY
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
this is fun....
Sabres2012CUP
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meh...., NY
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
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