The Isles and Yotes don't have a dime to their name but pay their players the same rate to stay competitive. You guys seem to be after two diametrically opposed things, more unions and more capitalism. Pick. Or flip flop and blame Bettman more.
- AdamFrench

agreed.... biggest issue with the system created by the owners 8 years ago. something I saw coming all those years ago.

The Isles and Yotes don't have a dime to their name but pay their players the same rate to stay competitive. You guys seem to be after two diametrically opposed things, more unions and more capitalism. Pick. Or flip flop and blame Bettman more.
- AdamFrench

That's their (frank)ing problem, relocate or fold.

With a career that on average is 6 years, maybe even less, then yeah Einstein, they should be... Either the billionaires will pay or they wont, problem is bobbi, most like yourself try and fit it into their own life experience and profession, and it doesn't translate and never will, once you get passed that silly little notion, then what we are talking about is an elite (frank)ing athlete, the best in the world at what they do.... and no one else is capable of doing what they do, or else they would already be doing it and demanding a huge salary for doing so as well. Not some scrub, kicking a poop job cause he aint got poop else to do to pay the bills... It doesn't translate into regular job mentality and never will....
- Betelgeuse

name calling? grow up

Fact: Salaries had no cap or floor 8 years ago.

Sakic got 28 mil a year

A scrub got 60k

Fact: Salaries now have a cap and floor.

Ovechkin gets 11mil

A scrub gets 800k

(frank) those poor players!
- AdamFrench

No (frank) the billionaire owners standing in lineups at player agents offices salivating at the bit to offer 200 million dollars to two (frank)ing players...

Fact: Salaries had no cap or floor 8 years ago.

Sakic got 28 mil a year

A scrub got 60k

Fact: Salaries now have a cap and floor.

Ovechkin gets 11mil

A scrub gets 800k

(frank) those poor players!
- AdamFrench

point?

No (frank) the billionaire owners standing in lineups at player agents offices salivating at the bit to offer 200 million dollars to two (frank)ing players...
- Betelgeuse

   

dont forget that 2 months earlier that very owner said things need to change, can't keep going on like this.

name calling? grow up
- bobbyisno1

Einstein was a brilliant man, was he not? And that is all you got from that post, cause it is all you wanted to see in order to stay argumentative about it. Now read it again, and try to retort without finding an insult that wasn't there, thin skin much?...

point?
- burn

The players TOTALLY got shafted when 75% of them got a monumental raise that would last nearly a decade.

point?
- burn

as a whole, the NHL can't afford the salaries the players are asking.
in the end it'll mean the fans will have to pay.
a thousand dollars for a family of 4 to go to the ACC.
Frank the players

Einstein was a brilliant man, was he not? And that is all you got from that post, cause it is all you wanted to see in order to stay argumentative about it. Now read it again, and try to retort without finding an insult that wasn't there, thin skin much?...
- Betelgeuse

   

dont forget that 2 months earlier that very owner said things need to change, can't keep going on like this.
- burn

And boy did it ever, first time we ever saw a circus like that and owners dishing out 200 million for 2 players. Changed almost as much as the salary cap and the last CBA they spent the last 5 years trying to circumvent themselves in order to rail each other on UFA's and then the RFA's via the offer sheets just recently. Cry foul will they?

The players TOTALLY got shafted when 75% of them got a monumental raise that would last nearly a decade.
- AdamFrench

And???? Who gave them said raises.......

- bobbyisno1

So you had no intention on answering the rest of the post and you chose instead to just simply disagree to stay argumentative. Nice work...

as a whole, the NHL can't afford the salaries the players are asking.
in the end it'll mean the fans will have to pay.
a thousand dollars for a family of 4 to go to the ACC.
Frank the players
- bobbyisno1

But not the owners who give up the contracts??

The players TOTALLY got shafted when 75% of them got a monumental raise that would last nearly a decade.
- AdamFrench

Them poor billionaires didnt make any money..

And???? Who gave them said raises.......
- burn

chicken, egg
egg, chicken
hmmmm, i just don't know

as a whole, the NHL can't afford the salaries the players are asking.
in the end it'll mean the fans will have to pay.
a thousand dollars for a family of 4 to go to the ACC.
Frank the players
- bobbyisno1

Oh, (frank) the guys you tune in to see play every night faithfully, it's the faults for taking a high salary because no one else can do what they do at their level. Interesting...

So you had no intention on answering the rest of the post and you chose instead to just simply disagree to stay argumentative. Nice work...
- Betelgeuse

i was having a conversation, you got insulting
the end

Them poor billionaires didnt make any money..
- Betelgeuse

Oh those poor players that will make money regardless of a lockout? Such victims.

Oh those poor players that will make money regardless of a lockout? Such victims.
- AdamFrench

Yup they will, and they should, no one pays to see that stupid smug grin on Bettman's face. I'm sure they would pay good money to wipe it off of his face though..

i was having a conversation, you got insulting
the end
- bobbyisno1

Yup, cause you saw only what you wanted to cry about. The rest of the post was ignored cause you had nothing to offer.

Yup they will, and they should, no one pays to see that stupid smug grin on Bettman's face. I'm sure they would pay good money to wipe it off of his face though..
- Betelgeuse

And there it is

thought we had a lack of centers on our squad...apparently 7/13 are centers.


oh, nvm, everyone's talking about quality centers. my bad.

Yup, cause you saw only what you wanted to cry about. The rest of the post was ignored cause you had nothing to offer.
- Betelgeuse

you believe that the players should bleed the system for every cent they can get and that's fine, but in the end the fans just keep paying more and more.
and it's just about not worth it anymore.

you believe that the players should bleed the system for every cent they can get and that's fine, but in the end the fans just keep paying more and more.
and it's just about not worth it anymore.
- bobbyisno1

Elite players, best at what they do, most with a career span of about 6 years, yeah (frank)ing A they should be paid, and well. And if the owners are paying them too much, then it is there own (frank)ing faults. Not the employees problem to fix the owners and the leagues (frank)ing problems for them.