Ty Anderson: Older Subban a perfect fit for Bruins Blog: Most fans don't want to admit it, but man would P.K. Subban be an awesome fit for the Boston Bruins.

Keep dreamin....the Habs would match any offer from the Bruins just not to have him go there.

Keep dreamin....the Habs would match any offer from the Bruins just not to have him go there.
- mikehopfhab81

I agree. Not a fan of Subban, but it would cost the Bruins big time to get him to Boston. I believe Montreal is open to moving Subban. I could understand an Edmonton deal. Boston could be in the mix, but you would need to see a top young player coming back.

Trolling for the clickies? This lockout must be murder on you guys.

I would think that below 5M the Habs will match without any seconds thoughts. Above that you have to think a bit depending on terms. A 1rst, 2nd and 3rd is nothing to sneeze over so then it depends on the actual cap hit to determine the value of matching vs taking the picks.

PK Subban signed at 3M-4M/year is worth less than PK Subban signed at 5.5M-6M/year.

Habs will match that automatically. 5M, while high, is not worth Montreal saying screw it and take only a 1st and a 3rd. Which means Boston will have to offer Subban $6.5M for the next 4-5 years for Montreal to consider taking the compensation, even if it is only a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd.

Also you forget that Boston must send the offer sheet today otherwise it will be too late. The team that owns the RFA player must be given 7 days to match or decline and if we cross over into a lockout then Boston will not have the player should Montreal choose to let him go.

Habs will match that automatically. 5M, while high, is not worth Montreal saying screw it and take only a 1st and a 3rd. Which means Boston will have to offer Subban $6.5M for the next 4-5 years for Montreal to consider taking the compensation, even if it is only a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd.

Also you forget that Boston must send the offer sheet today otherwise it will be too late. The team that owns the RFA player must be given 7 days to match or decline and if we cross over into a lockout then Boston will not have the player should Montreal choose to let him go.
- Steven_Dean

i dont think that is the only issue here. with a guy like seguin being an rfa next season what would the likeliness be of montreal throwing a big offer out his way....say 6.5-7 for a max term...

Ty there is no chance.
For starters the team has alot of cap space as it is with Gomez still part of this team. remove him and the squad has around $14 million to play with, so right there the Habs are no hurting financially.

Secondly, if you want to pry PK away from the team then the contract will absolutely have to be North of $6.00 million per season. I am by no means saying he is worth that much but if you want the Habs to truly think about letting him walk then it has to be a number that they are not willing to pay.

Right now $5.0 to $5.5 is something they would pay because it's on par with the league for most guys who have become the #1 dman on their respective teams.

So I guess the question is, do you really want to offer a contract north of $6.0 million when a year from now you have Seguin, Marchand, Lucic, et al. all in need of new contracts

As much as I would love to have P.K. in Boston, I don't think it is going to happen. Montreal will match any offer thrown his way especially one from Boston. It would be nothing more than a tactic by PC to get under Bergevin's skin. To get P.K. in Boston it might take a 4/5 yr deal at $5.5-6 mill a season which would cost the B's a 1st, 2nd, 3rd pick which is steep, but its the price you pay to get talent. A top 4 of Chara/Subban and Seidenberg/Hamilton would be quite the formidable D core

As much as I would love to have P.K. in Boston, I don't think it is going to happen. Montreal will match any offer thrown his way especially one from Boston. It would be nothing more than a tactic by PC to get under Bergevin's skin. To get P.K. in Boston it might take a 4/5 yr deal at $5.5-6 mill a season which would cost the B's a 1st, 2nd, 3rd pick which is steep, but its the price you pay to get talent. A top 4 of Chara/Subban and Seidenberg/Hamilton would be quite the formidable D core
- fudd1689

I honestly think more.

I think a 4 year deal at $5.5 million and Bergevin matches no question.
In order for it to be really possible you'd have to think around $6 million per in excess of 6-7 years

Not worth it.

I honestly think more.

I think a 4 year deal at $5.5 million and Bergevin matches no question.
In order for it to be really possible you'd have to think around $6 million per in excess of 6-7 years
- willey101

As a habs fan would you be OK with Bergevin matching an offer of 5/6 yrs for $6+ mill? That's a steep price to pay for P.K. he definitely has the talent but are you concerned with his attitude/antics?

As a habs fan would you be OK with Bergevin matching an offer of 5/6 yrs for $6+ mill? That's a steep price to pay for P.K. he definitely has the talent but are you concerned with his attitude/antics?
- fudd1689

Concerned No. Players like PK are alot like Crosby, Lemieux, Gretzky, Lafleur, etc.... They are used to be a step above everyone else so come to a league with attitude. As they mature however that attitude is replaced.

Pk is a great player. Watching him everyday I've seen his defensive game come to another level and the kid is a beast in the GM. I don't think he'll be a Karlsson or a Niedermeyer or a Bourque but this kid is arguably our Best D in our zone, and has the offensive tools to still net 40-50 points a year.

I think that if Markov can stay healthy and PK can continue to mature and develop that we will see a Chris Chelios type of guy. I know that's a big comparison.

I would be perfect fine with a 5-6 year deal right now at $5.0 but since Quebec taxes are brutal i say nothing wrong with an extra $500k. After all a year from now we'll have at least 2 guys on this team on entry level deals in Tinordi and Beaulieu.

As a habs fan would you be OK with Bergevin matching an offer of 5/6 yrs for $6+ mill? That's a steep price to pay for P.K. he definitely has the talent but are you concerned with his attitude/antics?
- fudd1689

Oh and I am not saying PK is at that same level as Crosby, Gretzky, etc.... just has that same attitude coming into the league.

subban is a good player (although a little overrated IMO), but he's nowhere close to being worth the money that boston would need to throw his way in order for the habs not to match.

My goodness it seems that every Bruin and Leaf discussion board has their fans saying how much they want PK , or how he would fit in on their team ... well news for ya folks ... get over it, aint gonna happen OK !!! He is one of the faces of the franchise and I am certain that under no circumstances would the Habs let him go , the last Hab player that brought as much excitement to watch was Guy Lafleur , and that was too long ago , been a hab fan over 50 yrs. they need PK, the fans love him , he's an upstanding human being and a great talent , of course he would be a grest asset to any team, but so would Crosby , Malkin , Hall , Eberle and the rest of the elite NHL talent ... we'd all love to have them but they are on another team so folks once and for all get over it PK aint goin nowhere

Concerned No. Players like PK are alot like Crosby, Lemieux, Gretzky, Lafleur, etc.... They are used to be a step above everyone else so come to a league with attitude. As they mature however that attitude is replaced.

Pk is a great player. Watching him everyday I've seen his defensive game come to another level and the kid is a beast in the GM. I don't think he'll be a Karlsson or a Niedermeyer or a Bourque but this kid is arguably our Best D in our zone, and has the offensive tools to still net 40-50 points a year.

I think that if Markov can stay healthy and PK can continue to mature and develop that we will see a Chris Chelios type of guy. I know that's a big comparison.

I would be perfect fine with a 5-6 year deal right now at $5.0 but since Quebec taxes are brutal i say nothing wrong with an extra $500k. After all a year from now we'll have at least 2 guys on this team on entry level deals in Tinordi and Beaulieu.
- willey101

I am a fan of P.K. I think he is a very good player and will continue to grow and learn the ins and outs of the defensive position. I can see the Chelios comparisons you mentioned, but it is always difficult to compare current players to past greats. It is a lot to live up to. I think the 5/6 years at $5 mill is fair for P.K. given what he has shown the past few years. If Montreal can retain P.K. and lock him up long term, they are in a good position defensively for the future. I really like Beaulieu a lot and think Tinordi will be a solid NHL defenseman. Also from what I have seen from him I really like Yemelin, he's not afraid to be physical which is a good trait to have as a defenseman.

Serious question:
Can Savard go on LTIR for the remaining years on his contract and not count against the cap?
Does he still count as a contract?

I am a fan of P.K. I think he is a very good player and will continue to grow and learn the ins and outs of the defensive position. I can see the Chelios comparisons you mentioned, but it is always difficult to compare current players to past greats. It is a lot to live up to. I think the 5/6 years at $5 mill is fair for P.K. given what he has shown the past few years. If Montreal can retain P.K. and lock him up long term, they are in a good position defensively for the future. I really like Beaulieu a lot and think Tinordi will be a solid NHL defenseman. Also from what I have seen from him I really like Yemelin, he's not afraid to be physical which is a good trait to have as a defenseman.
- fudd1689

No doubt 5/6 years at $5 million is where he should be but saying if Boston wanted him it would definitely have to be North of that for Montreal not to match. No way they give up on the kid that easily especially to a rival.

Serious question:
Can Savard go on LTIR for the remaining years on his contract and not count against the cap?
Does he still count as a contract?
- braidan

Yep (not a 35+ contract) and not sure if he counts against the contract limit.

Yep (not a 35+ contract) and not sure if he counts against the contract limit.
- Double_A

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It seems that everyone has conveniently forgotten that Subban has to sign the offer sheet before it can actually be matched (or not) by Montreal. Do you really think P.K. Subban would sign an offer sheet with the Bruins, his most hated team in the NHL and the arch-rivals of his current team?

It seems that everyone has conveniently forgotten that Subban has to sign the offer sheet before it can actually be matched (or not) by Montreal. Do you really think P.K. Subban would sign an offer sheet with the Bruins, his most hated team in the NHL and the arch-rivals of his current team?
- MrData

Money talks. So if MTl is offering 2 years at $2.75 million per and Boston 6 years at $5.0+ per then yes he'd sign it. He doesn;t mind being hated. Right now he's hated by Bruins fans, Leafs, etc.... now he'll end a hatred with Bruins fans and develop one for Montreal.

He would do it if Montreal does in fact low ball him.

So the Habs have already offered Subban 2 years, $5.5M ($2.75M/yr), but they won't go to $3.36 because it'd put them in cap difficulty? So what would it do to the Bruins, who have the highest cap number in the league? Flawed logic in a sacrilegious article, to say the least. You're a Bruins' blogger! You are supposed to go into a murderous rage at the mere mention of an Hab wearing a Bruins jersey.

I agree with most here, who say the Habs would almost certainly match an offer sheet sent to Subban. While this may put the Habs in a compromising cap position, don't forget that it provides motivation for the Habs to retaliate with an offer sheet in the future, that would put the Bruins in a compromising cap position. The downside to having all that great youth talent in your system, is that when their ELCs expire they provide appealing Subban-like offer sheet targets. When two financial viable teams are involved (unlike the lopsided Philly-Nashville Weber scenario), offer sheets could prove mutually destructive.