Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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This week's Across the Pond will be the last one for the duration of the lockout. NHL.com has had its budget cut by the higher-ups during the LO and the first thing to go from the site will be the freelancers, including me.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=642256 |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Yep. Not being able to anticipate plays is definitely a direct function of the team in front of him. - bradleyc4
Well luckily Bryzgalov doesn't have that issue. |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Exactly. Jimmy Watson's low percentage for 6th/7th all-time (let alone not making the Top 3) indicates more people should read up on Flyers' history. Full Spectrum should be required fan reading. - Flyskippy
Or Heroes of the Past or HB . |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Shows alot of young posters on the site. No way Couborn or Hatcher should get voted for. Bundy was average at best. - Stinkfitz
Hatcher and Therien should absolutely get some consideration on the list that was offered for 6/7 defenseman. I personally voted for Jimmy Watson and Bob Dailey. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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This week's Across the Pond will be the last one for the duration of the lockout. NHL.com has had its budget cut by the higher-ups during the LO and the first thing to go from the site will be the freelancers, including me.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=642256 - bmeltzer
Can NHL.com freelancers apply for Unemployment benefits? |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Hatcher and Therien should absolutely get some consideration on the list that was offered for 6/7 defenseman. I personally voted for Jimmy Watson and Bob Dailey. - MJL
My choices as well.
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Stinkfitz
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Location: Aston, PA Joined: 08.14.2012
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Hatcher and Therien should absolutely get some consideration on the list that was offered for 6/7 defenseman. I personally voted for Jimmy Watson and Bob Dailey. - MJL
Hatcher was a shell of himself when he got here. Playing on bad knees. |
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Shows alot of young posters on the site. No way Couborn or Hatcher should get voted for. Bundy was average at best. - Stinkfitz
It goes back to my point a few days ago - modern athlete versus the old athlete.
Many factors - different equipment, more international athletes, more teams, more travel perhaps - millions of factors that have to be discounted. I don't think it is as easy as some suggest here.
I voted for Coby by the way. Sooner or later, he will become the best Flyers d-man unless we go after Weber again.
Anyway - respect your opinion - but the voting results are the voting results.
Enjoy rest of your day.
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Derek Boogaard's family is suing National Hockey League Players' Association for his death.
Absolutely amazing. Zero accountability, when dollar signs are in play, everyone becomes a pass the buck chuck. Boogaard was a drug addict, and if I'm not mistaken his Brother tampered with evidence, and the family is looking to shift the blame elsewhere for the almighty dollar. Just sickening. |
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Hatcher was a shell of himself when he got here. Playing on bad knees. - Stinkfitz
Yes sir. Hatcher was basically shot. He had some moments, but as you state he wasn't a facsimile of the player he was in Dallas. |
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Yes sir. Hatcher was basically shot. He had some moments, but as you state he wasn't a facsimile of the player he was in Dallas. - PLindbergh31
I would put him on my team, if for no other reason than his classic knockdown of Cindy. |
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Stinkfitz
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Location: Aston, PA Joined: 08.14.2012
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It goes back to my point a few days ago - modern athlete versus the old athlete.
Many factors - different equipment, more international athletes, more teams, more travel perhaps - millions of factors that have to be discounted. I don't think it is as easy as some suggest here.
I voted for Coby by the way. Sooner or later, he will become the best Flyers d-man unless we go after Weber again.
Anyway - respect your opinion - but the voting results are the voting results.
Enjoy rest of your day.
Cheers! - Daman
I think you have to go by how they played in the era they were playing in. Modern day athletes are machines compared to the 60's-70's players.
Coby may very well be what you say when his carreer is done but as far as his compilation of work to date i cant consider him for an all-time flyers team. Coby probably shouldnt be even on the list YET. Same i think for Hartnell. I think if he finishes out his new contract here we will be talking about him for this all-time list but right now its way to premature.
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Derek Boogaard's family is suing National Hockey League Players' Association for his death.
Absolutely amazing. Zero accountability, when dollar signs are in play, everyone becomes a pass the buck chuck. Boogaard was a drug addict, and if I'm not mistaken his Brother tampered with evidence, and the family is looking to shift the blame elsewhere for the almighty dollar. Just sickening. - PLindbergh31
Is the lawsuit blaming them for his death? As I understood, they were suing the NHLPA for failing to file a grievance against the Rangers for withholding the balance of his contract (which legally they're required to paid out even in the case of player death, or so I had read), a grievance they allegedly assured the family would be filed.
To clarify, I'm not even remotely attempting to make light his drug abuse nor his brother's evidence tampering. |
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Stinkfitz
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Location: Aston, PA Joined: 08.14.2012
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I would put him on my team, if for no other reason than his classic knockdown of Cindy. - Daman
I was at that game and have the bad memory of Crosby coming out of the penalty box and taking the game over. When healthy Hatch was dominate. Unfortunately he was done when he got here along with Rathje. |
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Is the lawsuit blaming them for his death? As I understood, they were suing the NHLPA for failing to file a grievance against the Rangers for withholding the balance of his contract (which legally they're required to paid out even in the case of player death, or so I had read).
To clarify, I'm not trying to make light his drug abuse nor his brother's evidence tampering. - BulliesPhan87
As I understand it they have filed suit claiming they contributed to his death.
"Boogaard's parents, Len and Joanne, are seeking the remaining $4.8 million their son was supposed to earn and an additional $5 million in damages. The NHLPA says that there are no grounds for the claim and have otherwise refused to comment. The allegations in the claim have yet to be heard in court." |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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As I understand it they have filed suit claiming they contributed to his death.
"Boogaard's parents, Len and Joanne, are seeking the remaining $4.8 million their son was supposed to earn and an additional $5 million in damages. The NHLPA says that there are no grounds for the claim and have otherwise refused to comment. The allegations in the claim have yet to be heard in court." - PLindbergh31
I had seen that $5m figure and plain old forgot (I skimmed the article on my phone a couple days ago). Maybe the $5m is for damages caused by the delayed payout or something? I'm just trying to apply logic to it, I'd think if they were seeking to blame any organization it'd be the team (not to say they'd be correct in suggesting so). Either way, what an ugly situation. |
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I had seen that $5m figure and plain old forgot (I skimmed the article on my phone a couple days ago). Maybe the $5m is for damages caused by the delayed payout or something? I'm just trying to apply logic to it, I'd think if they were seeking to blame any organization it'd be the team (not to say they'd be correct in suggesting so). Either way, what an ugly situation. - BulliesPhan87
Yes it is an ugly situation for sure. I have a problem with the team being responsible for paying the remainder of his contract. Why should any employer have to make good on a contract when the employee destroys themselves? |
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I think you have to go by how they played in the era they were playing in. Modern day athletes are machines compared to the 60's-70's players.
Coby may very well be what you say when his carreer is done but as far as his compilation of work to date i cant consider him for an all-time flyers team. Coby probably shouldnt be even on the list YET. Same i think for Hartnell. I think if he finishes out his new contract here we will be talking about him for this all-time list but right now its way to premature. - Stinkfitz
I hope I'm right on Coby. I don't have him top 6 all time but up in the owners box. I like 6'7"" guys that can skate.
You raise fair and reasonable points. I just view the "game" (best of all time game) a little different. Mentally, I take the old timers and zip them thru my time machine into today's rink with 2012 equipment.
Overall, I think it is fair to say that skill levels may be comparable but athleticism a little less so. Not to mention, however unfortunate, about all the drug enhancements that players use.
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Yes it is an ugly situation for sure. I have a problem with the team being responsible for paying the remainder of his contract. Why should any employer have to make good on a contract when the employee destroys themselves? - PLindbergh31
I don't disagree, but it's going to come down to the language in the contract. I wonder if the NHL will file a counter suit if they're required to pay out, perhaps suggest his drug abuse was a breach of contract or something? |
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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So you're from Lititz? - bradleyc4
Correct. Warwick High School.
Born and raised. Reppin the big LTZ |
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flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Jamison, PA Joined: 02.15.2007
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Its sad but the Apex of my hockey enjoyment comes from 1-3 when all the euro leagues are on, but hey its something.
On a side note I looked into getting the AHL center ice package online... IT COST 350!!! I get paying that price for the NHL...but ahl really? I would be willing to pay 150 to watch the AHL during the lockout....but 350 for what could end up being AAA hockey without NHL prospects.
Its like the AHL doesn't want anyone to watch...
I just wanted to see the Phantoms and the JR Oilers err the Barrons |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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There's a nice white stucco house with a well tended flower bed and a grey wooden rocker on the porch waiting for you. - mayorofangrytown
And that crisscrossy lookin wood things on the bottom of the porch |
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twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: perkasie, PA Joined: 12.16.2009
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I don't disagree, but it's going to come down to the language in the contract. I wonder if the NHL will file a counter suit if they're required to pay out, perhaps suggest his drug abuse was a breach of contract or something? - BulliesPhan87
I think they're suing because multiple team drs and dentists prescribed painkillers. |
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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And that crisscrossy lookin wood things on the bottom of the porch - Giroux_Is_God
Lattice, pray ye? |
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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Lattice, pray ye? - Flyskippy
I think it's spelled lettuce.
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