Weirdoh will be devastated Mark in da Park retired.
- ShootingSemin

I think you're confused about the finances owners are not happy with. Primarily, owners are not happy with:

A) their share of revenue that was agreed upon in the last CBA
B) rising costs (which is a heavy contributor to their bottom line every year)

Now I suppose you can spin this by saying that Bettman put the first CBA together, so he should be canned for revenue % oversight. But at the same time, irrespective of that ONE factor, his negotiating in 04 put a lot of money in the owners pockets, and for that he's done his job to a T. He's also about to do his job to a T again with these negotiations.

And you're right about not being able to run profits without watching games...but that's a very small price to pay in the short term in order to achieve long term gains. The fans will come back no matter what happens....or what we all tell ourselves.
- Pen15

Nonsense...


And no I'm not confused. It's dead on. If Betman was doing his job to a T then the owners wouldn't be female doging.

I read that it takes only 8 votes from B.O.G for a deal to be accepted or proposed (someone correct me if it is wrong) and not by a majority vote, so if this is correct, it means in Bettman's NHL, the money losers like Nashville and others vote means more to the league than the money makers like Toronto, Montreal, Philly, Vancouver and New York, the ones who are keeping the league a float, yet imo, the money losers hold more power in the negotiations, something is terribly wrong with this picture but it is after all the NHL.

As for Bettman, name me one other commissioner in any league to have three work stoppages during the same amount of time Bettman has been running the league, it is an embarrassment to the game and the fans.

Yeah I'm pissed there is no NHL hockey, every one in charge needs to go, these fools can't run a league properly.

edit: Atomic Wedgie posted the article in Ek's blog.
- LeafMan

Great post, and if Bettman hadn't doubled the NHL's income, if not more, in his tenure the owners might even give a (frank) about the work stoppages, but they are concerned with their bottom line, and therefor do not give a (frank) about the players or the fans. Have no fear, the big market teams and their owners still carry this league, votes be damned...

You can tell yourself that. I urge you to take a look at how BOGs work in most major corporations in Canada and the US.
- Pen15

You do the same.

Because they are greedy and have no interest in negotiating.

http://www.theglobeandmai...f-balance/article4599997/

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ing/#.UHWi0MW9ons.twitter
- burn

Yep....


Fans better get ready for a long break from NHL because Fehr/Players are about to make getting rid of the cap the #1 demand going forward....

The cap didn't work and the players should have made a stance against it back in the summer...It's coming..

Because of rising costs. Their profits are being squeezed by the economy, and by the players share.

Of course the players are happy with it...who wouldn't be happy to pocket the majority of the revenue generated by the business.
- Pen15

The rising cost issue was squashed already. The players share hasn't increased, and the rest of the cost havent risen nearly as much as the revenue, so that is false.

Not really, Bettman and the weakest 8 franchises can still dictate how the league is run, getting rid of Bettman is a lot harder to do though, stupid owners for agreeing to such terms.
- LeafMan

You're a good guy Lou, but i disagree totally with this, big market teams are making the money and the revenue to keep teams that are losing money hand over fist. Without these teams the league goes under, and not just the 8 weakest teams either. The rest of the owners know this. Have to wonder exactly how much clout these top 8 grossing teams have? But you have to bet they have way more than the bottom feeding teams do, always have and always will...

Yep....


Fans better get ready for a long break from NHL because Fehr/Players are about to make getting rid of the cap the #1 demand going forward....

The cap didn't work and the players should have made a stance against it back in the summer...It's coming..
- Fruitcakenipple

- Leafland

Jays fan??...

You're a good guy Lou, but i disagree totally with this, big market teams are making the money and the revenue to keep teams that are losing money hand over fist. Without these teams the league goes under, and not just the 8 weakest teams either. The rest of the owners know this. Have to wonder exactly how much clout these top 8 grossing teams have? But you have to bet they have way more than the bottom feeding teams do, always have and always will...
- ShootingSemin

I think you missed the point.

How about contracts the players would like to take back:

Danny Briere: scheduled to make $7 million this year.

$3 million in 13/14
$2 million in 14/15

You think he wants a new CBA as quickly as possible?
- Atomic Wedgie

Ouch. It's like he's at the end of his career. I would fire my agent.

- Leafland

Those are nice seats. What stadium is that?

According to some Jeremy JAcobs is included in there but it doesn't make sense.
- burn

Well considering Jacobs is the chairman of the board of governors, and gave Bettman his contract, having one of the top grossing 8 teams ( have not looked into the numbers) yeah, i'd say he belongs there somewhere. Also owned the bruins since 1975.

Jays fan??...
- Fruitcakenipple

Anything Toronto fan.

I think you missed the point.
- burn

No.

Well considering Jacobs is the chairman of the board of governors, and gave Bettman his contract, having one of the top grossing 8 teams ( have not looked into the numbers) yeah, i'd say he belongs there somewhere. Also owned the bruins since 1975.
- ShootingSemin

Doesn't entitle him to more power. Each owner should have equal say, should take majority to make decisions.

No.
- ShootingSemin

Yeah.... If those teams (TO, MTL, Philly) the top grossing teams cannot operate to their fullest because the bottom of the barrel says no it's not healthy for the league.

Doesn't entitle him to more power. Each owner should have equal say, should take majority to make decisions.
- burn

Yeah, James Norris disagrees.

Doesn't entitle him to more power. Each owner should have equal say, should take majority to make decisions.
- burn

So being Chairman of the Board and one of the longest running owners, and an owner of an original 6 team, and one of the top 8 grossing teams in the league sure wouldn't give him anymore clout than the Nashville and Florida owners.

What a bunch of bs. I wonder how much johnny bower was making while getting concussions from the likes of jfj Jr. Whatever. I play real hockey so I don't have to worry about not watching like the rest of you losers.

Did we ever find out what happened with Mark in Da Park?

What a bunch of bs. I wonder how much johnny bower was making while getting concussions from the likes of jfj Jr. Whatever. I play real hockey so I don't have to worry about not watching like the rest of you losers.
- Skalapy

Did we ever find out what happened with Mark in Da Park?
- Fan2

I knew you would be devastated, sorry bro. What you get pinched for? Did you make fun of howard again?

Did we ever find out what happened with Mark in Da Park?
- Fan2

You're a good guy Lou, but i disagree totally with this, big market teams are making the money and the revenue to keep teams that are losing money hand over fist. Without these teams the league goes under, and not just the 8 weakest teams either. The rest of the owners know this. Have to wonder exactly how much clout these top 8 grossing teams have? But you have to bet they have way more than the bottom feeding teams do, always have and always will...
- ShootingSemin

No problem, we can't all agree, I posted what it looks like to me, I see the bottom 8 with Bettman being able to squash what the teams that are keeping the league a float want. It is not majority rules.