You'll see. That's going to be something the NHL bends on and gives to the players. They'll be grandfathered.
- Pen15

How exactly do you grandfather a rollback?

They sure are.
- burn

Like I said, look it up. Most company boards are structured like that...and thats PUBLIC companies. The NHL BOG is a private enterprise.

How exactly do you grandfather a rollback?
- Two_For_Truth

There will be no rollback on existing player contracts. Sorry for the confusion.

One of two things will happen:

1) existing contracts will be grandfathered under the new cba
2) existing contracts will be paid out in full, and the player will become a UFA.

EDIT: This is a minor issue. Revenue sharing (b/w owners + players) will be the deciding factor imo.

The players don't have to accept it. No one is forcing them to sign a new CBA. But the owners are well within their right to re-negotiate an EXPIRED contract....just like you'd be able to...
- Pen15

They're not negociating, that's the problem.

The minute an agreement is reached on revenue percentage is the same minute this lockout is over.
- Pen15

And the owners have said they will not talk until the players agree to the rollback. Thanks for playing.

Like I said, look it up. Most company boards are structured like that...and thats PUBLIC companies. The NHL BOG is a private enterprise.
- Pen15

Sure.

They're not negociating, that's the problem.
- burn

The Fehr brothers are meeting with Daley & Bettman almost daily. Just because they're not setting FORMAL meetings, doesn't mean they're not negotiating.

I'm willing to bet anything that a resolution to this lockout will come through the 4 of those guys negotiating privately in a room, than the media circus of submitting formal offers.

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And the players said they might put the salary cap question back on the table...doesn't mean they actually will.

Sure.
- burn

Your ignorance is amusing.

The Fehr brothers are meeting with Daley & Bettman almost daily. Just because they're not setting FORMAL meetings, doesn't mean they're not negotiating.

I'm willing to bet anything that a resolution to this lockout will come through the 4 of those guys negotiating privately in a room, than the media circus of submitting formal offers.
- Pen15

Until they talk about the core issues nothing gets resolved. Unlit the owners get more realistic nothing gets done.

There will be no rollback on existing player contracts. Sorry for the confusion.

One of two things will happen:

1) existing contracts will be grandfathered under the new cba
2) existing contracts will be paid out in full, and the player will become a UFA.

EDIT: This is a minor issue. Revenue sharing (b/w owners + players) will be the deciding factor imo.
- Pen15

Well now it all makes perfect sense.

Until they talk about the core issues nothing gets resolved. Unlit the owners get more realistic nothing gets done.
- burn

My guess is they are talking the core issues...and they're doing it daily.

And your on crack if you think having players take 57% of all revenues is reasonable. There is NO OTHER BUSINESS ON THIS PLANET that operates that way. And you better believe its about to be fixed.

Your ignorance is amusing.
- Pen15

You believe it so therefor it's true.

Well now it all makes perfect sense.
- Two_For_Truth

Sorry...I forgot this site was filled with 16yr olds with learning disabilities. I'll try to talk slower next time.

My guess is they are talking the core issues...and they're doing it daily.

And your on crack if you think having players take 57% of all revenues is reasonable. There is NO OTHER BUSINESS ON THIS PLANET that operates that way. And you better believe its about to be fixed.
- Pen15

You think so? Even though both admit that isn't happening? Even though they "meet" for 20 mins a day?

You believe it so therefor it's true.
- burn

Outside of working in the industry and having intricate knowledge of it? Yes. But it's all for public record for individuals such as yourself to read up on. Not private enterprise though...those companies don't have to release those kinds of details to the public. I guess the NHL is cutting edge compared to their true true peers.

Sorry...I forgot this site was filled with 16yr olds with learning disabilities. I'll try to talk slower next time.
- Pen15

Slower talk please yes.

You think so? Even though both admit that isn't happening? Even though they "meet" for 20 mins a day?
- burn

They've been reported meeting for half and full days. And it's media tactic that both are practicing. NOTHING the media reports on the matter will result in positivity....that will only help grow animosity and will cause problems in the board room given the egos at play.

Slower talk please yes.
- Two_For_Truth

I missed you UG.

Outside of working in the industry and having intricate knowledge of it? Yes. But it's all for public record for individuals such as yourself to read up on. Not private enterprise though...those companies don't have to release those kinds of details to the public. I guess the NHL is cutting edge compared to their true true peers.
- Pen15

Sure.

My guess is they are talking the core issues...and they're doing it daily.

And your on crack if you think having players take 57% of all revenues is reasonable. There is NO OTHER BUSINESS ON THIS PLANET that operates that way. And you better believe its about to be fixed.
- Pen15

And is there any other business on this planet, outside of sports, that drafts it's employees and denies them the freedom to switch jobs and go to a rival company?

Sports, and hockey, are unique. Dont be comparing to other businesses.

They've been reported meeting for half and full days. And it's media tactic that both are practicing. NOTHING the media reports on the matter will result in positivity....that will only help grow animosity and will cause problems in the board room given the egos at play.
- Pen15

They were? By who?

I missed you UG.
- Pen15

Talk slower please.

And is there any other business on this planet, outside of sports, that drafts it's employees and denies them the freedom to switch jobs and go to a rival company?

Sports, and hockey, are unique. Dont be comparing to other businesses.
- systemtool

Logic has no home here.

I almost cried when Opie died.
- jbold

Mother f#!%## i hate spoilers

Ffs