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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Oct 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
Actually, I have no sympathy for any of 'em.

And why shouldn't the owners be able to make a profit, or at least break even?!?! 60% of the owners lost $$$ last year. Salaries are out of hand. Is it the owners fault? Sure, it is. But the poor owner has to at least be able to keep pace with the teams like the Flyers, Rangers, Leafs, etc. (the teams making $$$ hand-over-fist), so he goes and signs the good player to the rich contract.

I think some of you on here will think differently of all this if Claude Giroux blows out his ACL while playing in Austria.

- Powerslave


Athletes are "overpaid" because of us fans. If you think that way stop promoting the NHL and the players. Its as simple as that... Entertainers in general or grossly overpaid, but that's a topic for a different thread on a different forum.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:31 AM ET
I agree but any Flyer that gets hurt is an important player
- Flyers_1488

For sure, just pointing out the irony of saying it would take that when it's already happened.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
Athletes are "overpaid" because of us fans. If you think that way stop promoting the NHL and the players. Its as simple as that... Entertainers in general or grossly overpaid, but that's a topic for a different thread on a different forum.
- JFlyers00


Yes, clearly he doesn't have too big of a problem with it or he wouldn't watch the NHL anymore.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
What about Shelley?
- funmaster18



Yeah Why Not??

I like Jody Shelley and have watched ever since he was playing for the Halifax Mooseheads.... I know alot of Flyers fans dont like him bc of this 1.1 per year but would rather have him on the bench then Zac but thats just my thoughts.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
For sure, just pointing out the irony of saying it would take that when it's already happened.
- BulliesPhan87



Yeah I knew that but just wanted to add more to it
TheFondler
St Louis Blues
Location: " I can't change the survey no
Joined: 07.06.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
1) In most cases, the roster moves made to accommodate NHL signings are done in one of two ways; a) a young fourth line player or healthy scratch is either re-assigned to their U20 team (if eligible) or loaned to a minor league club. If still junior-team eligible, the affected players often get to practice with the big club, even if they are not on the active roster for games. Either which way, he makes the same modest salary, b) the club releases an import player of lesser stature if it faces an issue with import limits. That often arises, anyway, if a player is underperforming or a higher-profile player becomes available.

2)Competition for jobs is part of the business, lockout or no lockout. The better players will always get room made for them. The only real difference here is that the already limited number of professional decreases further when the NHL is in a lockout.

3) You can't have it both ways. If the owners are locking out -- and, therefore, not paying the contracts of -- the players, why shouldn't players be able to work elsewhere on a temporary basis? I'm not sure why some think the players should be "loyal" to their NHL teams while being locked out or why some think they should not be playing hockey in "union solidarity". There are no picket lines here. It's a lockout, not a strike.

As for the lockout dragging on, I totally agree with you that it takes two to tango. I'm disgusted that it's Oct. 23 and both sides have done more PR posturing than actual negotiating as canceled games get missed daily.

- bmeltzer


In Most Cases?
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
In Most Cases?
- TheFondler



Please Reread #1 again!!!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
Bill, thanks for your daily reports.

I am disgusted with the lock out, and haven't had a lot of time to post, but do read what you write every day.

Watching the Danny and G presser makes me appreciate how much having a guy like Briere around benefits the young players. Seeing how Danny handles himself with the press has to benefit Claude. Someday CG will be the captain and I bet he is taking notes from the classy way Briere acts. I was a little down on Briere for his weak defense at the end of last season, but overall I think he brings a ton to the team.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
Yeah Why Not??

I like Jody Shelley and have watched ever since he was playing for the Halifax Mooseheads.... I know alot of Flyers fans dont like him bc of this 1.1 per year but would rather have him on the bench then Zac but thats just my thoughts.

- Flyers_1488


His loss would be insurmountable
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
His loss would be insurmountable
- funmaster18



No Need to be a wise butt man....

You dont like Shelley!! Fine, Great, Whatever

I do....

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
No Need to be a wise butt man....

You dont like Shelley!! Fine, Great, Whatever

I do....

- Flyers_1488


Just having some fun
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
Awesome. More NHLers taking jobs away from Europeans.

These rich, spoiled F&%$S shouldn't be allowed to play ANYWHERE while they're under contract with an NHL team. Especially players that already have millions in the bank, while the Euro player is probably struggling to feed his family.

I don't care if the owners locked them out. It takes two to tango.

- Powerslave


I'm Vladimir Putin of the Communist Party, and I approve this message.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Oct 23 @ 1:07 PM ET
Just having some fun
- funmaster18



mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
I'm Vladimir Putin of the Communist Party, and I approve this message.
- Daman

Stinkfitz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 08.14.2012

Oct 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
No Need to be a wise butt man....

You dont like Shelley!! Fine, Great, Whatever

I do....

- Flyers_1488


I dont really dislike Shelly but I would rather have Sestito on the fourth line and even more Rinaldo. They are both superior skaters to shelly and can skate more minutes instead of the 4 mins a game Shelly gets.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Even in a lockout Hockeybuzz carries on! And So does the Shelley debate.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
Not sure if this was discussed yet, but sounds like some good news on both Jake V and Mesz.

http://www.csnphilly.com/...blockID=792291&feedID=695
danham92
Joined: 02.20.2012

Oct 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
But the real question is:

"There is no word yet on whether Ilya Bryzgalov (4 GP, 1-3-0, 3.27 GAA, .887 SV%) or Rastislav Stana (12 GP, 7-2-0, 1.47 GAA, .951 SV%, 3 SO) "

Who is this Stana guy, and how do we sign him or trade Bryz for him?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Even in a lockout Hockeybuzz carries on! And So does the Shelley debate.
- jak521


It had been too long and I couldn't help myself
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 23 @ 2:39 PM ET
But the real question is:

"There is no word yet on whether Ilya Bryzgalov (4 GP, 1-3-0, 3.27 GAA, .887 SV%) or Rastislav Stana (12 GP, 7-2-0, 1.47 GAA, .951 SV%, 3 SO) "

Who is this Stana guy, and how do we sign him or trade Bryz for him?

- danham92


Former Washington Capitals backup goalie, but mostly played in the AHL before returning to Europe. Very good goalie in Europe, however.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
So Derrian Hatcher is running a 5K? Good for him. Amazed his knees have recovered enough for it.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
Sixers finish preseason 6-1 all without Big By
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Oct 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
It had been too long and I couldn't help myself
- funmaster18[/quote


I believe the last time we got in the Shelley debate was right before the playoffs.....

So we are due for one
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
So Derrian Hatcher is running a 5K? Good for him. Amazed his knees have recovered enough for it.
- mayorofangrytown

If he had knee replacements in both knees (i know he had at least one done) he should be ok..
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
Sixers finish preseason 6-1 all without Big By
- Crimsoninja

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