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robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Dec 7 @ 1:54 PM ET
The KHL are paying players more than they could make in the NHL.
- yttrohs







Let them all go to the KHL.


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 7 @ 1:55 PM ET
The KHL are paying players more than they could make in the NHL.
- yttrohs


No way.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.co...itals-160501841--nhl.html

The KHL had to break their own rules to get Ov in.
Even Ov wants to come back to the NHL asap. He knows what's best.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
Reggie at almost a million dollars a point will be bought out soon
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
The owners are using your emotions against you, Mr Regehr?

Call me when one of them shows up wearing a 'Ruck Regehr' hat, Terry P. calls you a cancer and suggests making whole in your head.

That 'emotional' enough for you?
sliprock65
Joined: 08.20.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:11 PM ET
Keep your pro player stance Garth. you're a moron.


Sorry but sympathy for the players is dwindling. We aren't all Cabana boys for the NHLPA like you are.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
Brutal! Avs should be worried about this!
- jonathonpeddle

I wouldn't be worried. All that's happening here is you're being held hostage. You'll get him back when the season starts...but you're really not going to like the price.
yttrohs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
Regehr is an idiot.

when he says the players are the only ones making concessions. What about the 18 owners that lost millions of dollars? Did it come out of the players pockets?
Just because the NHL makes money, doesn't mean that the teams are making money.

Buffalo lost $10.8 million last year. Regehr made over $4 million last year while only contributing 5 points and was a -12.

Here's what I think should happen to salaries. They are all prorated. No money is guaranteed, you are given a base which is adjusted every 2 months based on performance. How different would hockey be then?

- ILoveLamp

That's just bad management to loose 10.8 million a year.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:37 PM ET
Regehr is an idiot.

when he says the players are the only ones making concessions. What about the 18 owners that lost millions of dollars? Did it come out of the players pockets?
Just because the NHL makes money, doesn't mean that the teams are making money.

Buffalo lost $10.8 million last year. Regehr made over $4 million last year while only contributing 5 points and was a -12.

Here's what I think should happen to salaries. They are all prorated. No money is guaranteed, you are given a base which is adjusted every 2 months based on performance. How different would hockey be then?

- ILoveLamp



Lets assume they players get paid over 36 weeks. That would put Reghr's weekly paycheck at $111,111. After taxes at 33% that would land him around 71k a week. That amount of money would float anyones boat here for a year. A house, a car you actually like and maybe seasons tickets in the 300 level assuming there is another income in the house and Toronto isn't your favorite team. At one point does it occour to Robyn, that he makes rediculous money? Money that comes from the fans, not the owners?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:41 PM ET
That's just bad management to loose 10.8 million a year.
- yttrohs



Well Pegula is the execption, not the rule. He bought the team so he could blow all his dough on it. Sold out 99% of seats to its not a bad business. But he runs 23rd lowest ticket prices. He is, in my opinion, a large part of the cause of the current dillemma.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:41 PM ET
That's just bad management to loose 10.8 million a year.
- yttrohs



And that's just bad usage of the word "loose".

It's lose.

Leaf fans should be used to that word.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:42 PM ET
And that's just bad usage of the word "loose".

It's lose.

Leaf fans should be used to that word.

- Powerslave


Wow. Correcting grammatical errors in a comment section? You must be really smart.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
And that's just bad usage of the word "loose".

It's lose.

Leaf fans should be used to that word.

- Powerslave






Burn
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Dec 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
Fehr has them all brainwashed.
Habsforever101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.10.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:47 PM ET
I like how Regehr says how transparent Fehr has been about the NHL's offers to the players and that he tells it how it is. But how would they know if he's lying about what the NHL is really offering if he's the only one telling them? Fehr is clearly good at communicating with the players but what he tells him could be completely different then what the NHL is saying!

Also I love how players refer back to the last lockout as a loss so they have to win this time. This makes almost no sense in a business standpoint, the last CBA was a complete change in how the players were paid and how the league was run. The owners used what they knew and tried to form a CBA that would be good for all teams. That didn't work out exactly like they thought it would but considering the big changes made there is no way they could have predicted what problems would arise 7 years down the line! That's why a CBA expires to see what worked and what didn't, clearly the cap has been beneficial as it has helped teams compete but there are still teams losing money which is what needs to get fixed. Player contracts have become a sideshow with rich owners trying to find ways around the cap. So they took in what happened in the last 7 years and tried to fix it, this CBA isn't about beating the players! This CBA is about fine tuning the agreement so that teams don't lose money and don't have to deal with crazy contracts. Let the business men take care of what they need to be happy and the players will make their money regardless.

The players are being led and brainwashed by a guy who could care less if there is hockey this season. He gets paid based on how well the players do not how fair the CBA is for the game. He doesn't care if the owner of the Panthers loses 10 million next year, as long as he gets paid nicely he's happy. Its time the players took their heads out their ass and just signed a deal.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
Fehr has them all brainwashed.
- sippyd

Truthfully, I can't see this ending well for him. I would think he should start filling out his EI application.
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Dec 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
Regehr is an idiot.

when he says the players are the only ones making concessions. What about the 18 owners that lost millions of dollars? Did it come out of the players pockets?
Just because the NHL makes money, doesn't mean that the teams are making money.

Buffalo lost $10.8 million last year. Regehr made over $4 million last year while only contributing 5 points and was a -12.

Here's what I think should happen to salaries. They are all prorated. No money is guaranteed, you are given a base which is adjusted every 2 months based on performance. How different would hockey be then?

- ILoveLamp


Pay for PERFORMANCE - novel idea!

50% of league revenues go into a pot - split evenly between the 30 teams - and then 70% is paid in salaries - and 30% goes to bonuses - 100% paid out every year - determined by statistical algorithms taking into consideration time on ice in Short handed situations - power play situations - and even strength situations - goals, assists, +/-, GAA, etc.

no floor - no cap - no whining (Ryan Miller)
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
I like how Regehr says how transparent Fehr has been about the NHL's offers to the players and that he tells it how it is. But how would they know if he's lying about what the NHL is really offering if he's the only one telling them? Fehr is clearly good at communicating with the players but what he tells him could be completely different then what the NHL is saying!

Also I love how players refer back to the last lockout as a loss so they have to win this time. This makes almost no sense in a business standpoint, the last CBA was a complete change in how the players were paid and how the league was run. The owners used what they knew and tried to form a CBA that would be good for all teams. That didn't work out exactly like they thought it would but considering the big changes made there is no way they could have predicted what problems would arise 7 years down the line! That's why a CBA expires to see what worked and what didn't, clearly the cap has been beneficial as it has helped teams compete but there are still teams losing money which is what needs to get fixed. Player contracts have become a sideshow with rich owners trying to find ways around the cap. So they took in what happened in the last 7 years and tried to fix it, this CBA isn't about beating the players! This CBA is about fine tuning the agreement so that teams don't lose money and don't have to deal with crazy contracts. Let the business men take care of what they need to be happy and the players will make their money regardless.

The players are being led and brainwashed by a guy who could care less if there is hockey this season. He gets paid based on how well the players do not how fair the CBA is for the game. He doesn't care if the owner of the Panthers loses 10 million next year, as long as he gets paid nicely he's happy. Its time the players took their heads out their ass and just signed a deal.

- Habsforever101




The owners are essenitally trying to give the players a taste of what they feel by making the players lose money. Unfortunately we are along for the ride.
Thesource
Joined: 11.29.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
Wow. Correcting grammatical errors in a comment section? You must be really smart.
- clarkysduster


Comparatively to yourself. Yes it kinda seems so doesn't it.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:24 PM ET
Comparatively to yourself. Yes it kinda seems so doesn't it.
- Thesource


You should consider adding a few commas in that sentence.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Dec 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
Players need to stop the whining. Go play in the KHL if you want.

Good riddance...
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 4:51 PM ET
Garth, I know bloggers use opinion as much as fact for basis of an article but you really show no objectivity whatsoever.

I like Miller and if he were my teams goalie I'd love him even more but that being said, you seem to such an incredible man-crush on him that he is infallible.

Do you honestly think his "passionate venting" at Jacobs (while not saying his name directly) was in the best interest of his 750 "brothers-in-arms" or simply an opportunity to say his piece?

It was personal, pure and simple.
While I can understand it, I dont think it was professional, contructive or excusable, let alone to be applauded.
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 4:52 PM ET
Players need to stop the whining. Go play in the KHL if you want.

Good riddance...

- Rally_Shots

totally, if the league de-certifies for real, say good bye to more than half non-north american players....
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 4:54 PM ET
Pay for PERFORMANCE - novel idea!

50% of league revenues go into a pot - split evenly between the 30 teams - and then 70% is paid in salaries - and 30% goes to bonuses - 100% paid out every year - determined by statistical algorithms taking into consideration time on ice in Short handed situations - power play situations - and even strength situations - goals, assists, +/-, GAA, etc.

no floor - no cap - no whining (Ryan Miller)

- atlsabsfan



Careful, you sound like one of them "Socialists".
must have voted for obama too, damn 47%

BTW - that is sarcasm.

This approach make too much sence to be suported by anyone
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Dec 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
Fehr has them all brainwashed.
- sippyd



all Gatorade bottles now filled with Jim Jones Kool-Aid
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Dec 7 @ 6:07 PM ET
This is laughable.


Go for it players. Go make 2.4 million somewhere else.

- robin_steele264


My local grocery store is hiring.
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